How much would you be willing to shake up this team?

[spikelovetheCelts]

When we use the Fournier Trade exemption i will see the commitment from Wyc and see the light at the end of the tunnel. We have some good internal growth with Grant PP and Nesmith. We should be able to get two good minimum vets since we are now a contender.  The MLE should also be used tooI think Brogdon and Mo Bama would be good for those two. A Trey Burke Dennis Smith, Terrence Ross could be good DJ Dozier would be solid. Delon Wright amy be free. Bismack Biyombo would be awesome. I think Tacko could help.

[colincb]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

[Roy H.]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

[liam]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

I'm with you, I'll believe it when I see it. I've heard Wyc play this song before. It probably sells season tickets.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

wow. that is all he has spent? that is troubling. If he cannot get serious now people need to send a message. He needs to be raked over coals non stop in online articles, podcasts, the works. zero excuse for bot going all in NOW.

[slamtheking]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

wow. that is all he has spent? that is troubling. If he cannot get serious now people need to send a message. He needs to be raked over coals non stop in online articles, podcasts, the works. zero excuse for bot going all in NOW.

might make more of an impact if the fans around him at the games next season let him know their discontent if the team doesn't spend money this offseason

[BruceBanner18]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

I take that bet. We 100% will be tax payers this season.

[Roy H.]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

I take that bet. We 100% will be tax payers this season.

Well, "tax payers" isn't the bet.  I agree that we'll pay tax.  Otherwise, our off-season would basically be dumping Theis and signing a bunch of vet minimum guys. 

colin thinks that we'll exceed the tax by an amount substantially higher than $10 million.  So, let's say the bet is that we won't exceed the tax by $17 million or more.  Still in?  If so, we can wager the cost of a ribeye at the steakhouse of your choosing.  I'd prefer to keep this in the Texas Roadhouse / Longhorn category, but if you want to go to a Ruth's Chris or Grill 23 level, cool. 

[keevsnick]

FYI how the NBA tax works:

5 over tax + 7.5  in total taxes= 12.5 million in expenditure.
10 over tax + 16.25 in total taxes= 26.25 million in expenditure
15 over tax + 28.75 in total taxes = 43.75 million in expenditure
20 over tax + 45 in total taxes = 65 million expenditure.

Right now if the C's do nothing but bring back the same team they will be roughly 7 million into the tax. They could dump Theis making 8.7 next year, but this ownership just kind of has to be willing to pay if there's gonna be an upgrade here.

If they aren't they should be ripped, hard.

[BruceBanner18]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

I take that bet. We 100% will be tax payers this season.

Well, "tax payers" isn't the bet.  I agree that we'll pay tax.  Otherwise, our off-season would basically be dumping Theis and signing a bunch of vet minimum guys. 

colin thinks that we'll exceed the tax by an amount substantially higher than $10 million.  So, let's say the bet is that we won't exceed the tax by $17 million or more.  Still in?  If so, we can wager the cost of a ribeye at the steakhouse of your choosing.  I'd prefer to keep this in the Texas Roadhouse / Longhorn category, but if you want to go to a Ruth's Chris or Grill 23 level, cool.

But after we S&T for Beal we will only go 6 or 7 million into the tax

I'm trying to apply my patchy salary cap knowledge but would we really just be betting on whether the $17 TPE gets used? What other ways could we possibly get that far above the cap?

[Vermont Green]

The tax threshold for next season is $149M.  $17M over that would be $166M.  Only 3 teams paid more than that last season (GSW, BKN. LAC).

We are already at $157M with our current contracts (I think someone said about $8M over so that seem right).  $166M is probably a pretty good over under.  Maybe that is a good poll question?

But I don't consider being under implying cheap management.  We are going to be one of the top salary teams next season.  I trust the ownership to spend if the right deal is there but I don't want them to spend just to spend.

[Roy H.]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

I take that bet. We 100% will be tax payers this season.

Well, "tax payers" isn't the bet.  I agree that we'll pay tax.  Otherwise, our off-season would basically be dumping Theis and signing a bunch of vet minimum guys. 

colin thinks that we'll exceed the tax by an amount substantially higher than $10 million.  So, let's say the bet is that we won't exceed the tax by $17 million or more.  Still in?  If so, we can wager the cost of a ribeye at the steakhouse of your choosing.  I'd prefer to keep this in the Texas Roadhouse / Longhorn category, but if you want to go to a Ruth's Chris or Grill 23 level, cool.

But after we S&T for Beal we will only go 6 or 7 million into the tax

I'm trying to apply my patchy salary cap knowledge but would we really just be betting on whether the $17 TPE gets used? What other ways could we possibly get that far above the cap?

See some of the discussion above.  We could go way over the tax.  We've got three major TPEs ($17 million and two worth roughly $6 million), plus the MLE.  That's $35 million over the tax already.  And, from what I understand, we're already starting a few million above the tax even without doing a thing.

[Roy H.]

The tax threshold for next season is $149M.  $17M over that would be $166M.  Only 3 teams paid more than that last season (GSW, BKN. LAC).

We are already at $157M with our current contracts (I think someone said about $8M over so that seem right).  $166M is probably a pretty good over under.  Maybe that is a good poll question?

But I don't consider being under implying cheap management.  We are going to be one of the top salary teams next season.  I trust the ownership to spend if the right deal is there but I don't want them to spend just to spend.

How do you define "right deal"?

It's hard to believe that there won't be a single player worth adding who makes more than $9 million, right?

That said, I suppose there are ways to add very good talent without exceeding that number.  For instance, packaging Theis, Nesmith and Pritchard while bringing back a guy making $18 million only costs us around $3.3 million in additional salary.

[GreenEnvy]

I’m just looking to add. I expect significant growth from the Jays after this Finals run. They are at the age where they should begin to enter their primes.

I wouldn’t blow things up. Use the TPE’s and MLE to bring in impact players and lengthen our bench. With a full offseason, White should be a much better fit than he was since acquiring him.

Rookie head coach and their two stars just 24 and 25 years old. There is so much room for growth that I’d try to build on what we have, not shake things up too much.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Celtics co-owner and governor Wyc Grousbeck shed some more light on the luxury tax, ownership and spending when asked Tuesday on 98.5′s Felger and Mazz show.

“The reason that we bought the Celtics in the first place — and I got 20 guys together to do it — was so that we could vindicate, try to take care of this great thing much bigger than any of us that truly great people put together before us,” Grousbeck said. “We’re trying to do everything we can for the Celtics. It’s been that way since 2003. There’s no question. Whatever needs to be done, can be done, can possibly be done.

“I’ve had four different in-person conversations with Brad and Ime (Udoka) in the last four days, and it’s been: ‘Let’s go.’ That’s the way it’ll be for as long as we have a team that can compete. We are really excited and can’t wait to see what happens.”

Wyc could be lying too though.

I'm sure he is.  They've paid $50 million in luxury tax since buying the team, despite $700+ million in profit and $2 billion in appreciation.  Despite being to the ECF four of the past six seasons, we've spent a total of $3.4 million in tax since 2013.

But sure, we're going to go all-in.  Lol.  I guess I'm just a cynic.  I'm open to a friendly wager, though.  Steak dinner?

wow. that is all he has spent? that is troubling. If he cannot get serious now people need to send a message. He needs to be raked over coals non stop in online articles, podcasts, the works. zero excuse for bot going all in NOW.

might make more of an impact if the fans around him at the games next season let him know their discontent if the team doesn't spend money this offseason

i know i just did not want to sound like i was e ndorsing a fan boycott and dump season tickets. but whatever it takes. most these owners only see $$$$$ signs.  when stands empty out changes are made. it should not have to come to that though