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Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2022, 11:33:53 PM »

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Well, this thread failed to serve as a reverse jinx sadly. Time to think about what I want us to do after disgracing ourselves
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Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2022, 11:36:01 PM »

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Actually put together a bench....our 7 man rotation caught up to us.

On the plus side, usually after a run like this vets want to jump on board.

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2022, 11:39:10 PM »

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Actually put together a bench....our 7 man rotation caught up to us.

Yeah for sure. Also, if we need to go past the luxury tax, DO IT. You still have most of this team intact, you can definitely add some more players with the TPE and some of the exceptions. Also get rid of Theis, guy was just unplayable for most of these playoffs and it definitely hurt us. Forced Timelord and Horford to play a lot more and it clearly caught up to them, though much respect for Timelord for gutting it out this postseason despite the injuries
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Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2022, 11:41:06 PM »

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Actually put together a bench....our 7 man rotation caught up to us.

On the plus side, usually after a run like this vets want to jump on board.
Amen. We’ll fix our bench with ring chasers.

Two tough decisions:

1) How do we replace Al? His minutes should be cut back. A guy like Bobby Portis would be ideal IMO. But not sure how to make that happen.

2) Is Smart the answer at PG? His defense is obviously elite but we had nobody who could break down thr Warriors D. Any chance Smart for Lonzo Ball would be a possibility? I doubt it.

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2022, 11:42:33 PM »

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get Jonathan Isaac with the tpe


Oh man that would be incredible. But why the heck would Orlando do that

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2022, 11:42:54 PM »

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We clearly need more offense. Really need a third star or at least high-level offensive player. Even someone like McCollum-level would be sufficient I think. Just not good enough offensively, and our elite D can't cover it up at this level.

Along with that, we need another playmaker/ball handler. While I think Smart can be a starting point guard on a team, I don't think it's necessarily this team. Unless the Jays both drastically improve their ball handling and decision-making, I don't think he can be the one.

Mostly, though, we need some internal improvement. The Jays simply have to get their decision-making and ball handling better. That would go a LONG WAY to improving our issues. If they both would significantly improve in those regards, I think we could probably get away with more marginal upgrades.

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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2022, 11:45:00 PM »

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1. Getting a legit PG. Someone who can handle the ball and run the offense.
2. Revamp the bench. Need another stretch big.
3. Ownership gets behind a championship push.

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2022, 11:45:31 PM »

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The obvious answer is to run it back. I’m not sure why we’d do anything different. All players are under contract through next year, and we were favored in the NBA finals against a top team. Seriously, what more do you think we need? This team played the 4 best teams in the playoffs and beat 3.

Run it back.. +1 year of experience -1 year of health for the prior generation.

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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2022, 11:47:01 PM »

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The obvious answer is to run it back. I’m not sure why we’d do anything different. All players are under contract through next year, and we were favored in the NBA finals against a top team. Seriously, what more do you think we need?

Run it back.. +1 year of experience -1 year of health for the prior generation.

Bench has to be improved.

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2022, 11:47:59 PM »

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1. Getting a legit PG. Someone who can handle the ball and run the offense.
2. Revamp the bench. Need another stretch big.
3. Ownership gets behind a championship push.

I would hope ownership gets behind a push. Wyc said he would spend into the luxury if he thinks we are a championship level team. Well we made it and lost. Now improve the roster.

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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2022, 11:48:03 PM »

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Actually put together a bench....our 7 man rotation caught up to us.

On the plus side, usually after a run like this vets want to jump on board.
Amen. We’ll fix our bench with ring chasers.

Two tough decisions:

1) How do we replace Al? His minutes should be cut back. A guy like Bobby Portis would be ideal IMO. But not sure how to make that happen.

2) Is Smart the answer at PG? His defense is obviously elite but we had nobody who could break down thr Warriors D. Any chance Smart for Lonzo Ball would be a possibility? I doubt it.

It wasn't elite in this series.

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2022, 11:48:52 PM »

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We clearly need more offense. Really need a third star or at least high-level offensive player. Even someone like McCollum-level would be sufficient I think. Just not good enough offensively, and our elite D can't cover it up at this level.

Along with that, we need another playmaker/ball handler. While I think Smart can be a starting point guard on a team, I don't think it's necessarily this team. Unless the Jays both drastically improve their ball handling and decision-making, I don't think he can be the one.

Mostly, though, we need some internal improvement. The Jays simply have to get their decision-making and ball handling better. That would go a LONG WAY to improving our issues. If they both would significantly improve in those regards, I think we could probably get away with more marginal upgrades.

I have no reason to think both Jays will come back better. They have all every season, so I'm optimistic about that. This is the experience they needed.

But the fanbase shouldn't except marginal upgrades anymore. We need to an offense-minded assistant coach that take that from Ime and let him be the defensive guy that he is. Be aggressive and bring in someone like D'Antoni. And they can't let the TPE go to waste - they have to bring in another player that can consistently create offense.
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Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2022, 11:49:11 PM »

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I know a lot of people will think we need another offensive star, the issue is if you do that they also have to be able to defend. This teams defense worked, warriors were between 100-108 every game despite the fact the c's turned it over at an incredible clip. The defense worked.

A guy like Beal for instance would give this team a spot to pick at, I'm a no on that kind of guy.

What I want to see is commitment for ownership. They got 12 playoff games of extra revenue, didn't pay the luxury tax, and have clear proof the C's are contenders. They need to pay up. Not go like 5 million into the tax, but like 15-20+ million in. Use that TPE you have, be bold, target either another 3+D wing or a sharp  shooter   who at least has size.

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2022, 11:50:54 PM »

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Trade Smart for Beal.

Re: Following our Finals loss, what's your ideal offseason?
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2022, 11:51:09 PM »

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The obvious answer is to run it back. I’m not sure why we’d do anything different. All players are under contract through next year, and we were favored in the NBA finals against a top team. Seriously, what more do you think we need?

Run it back.. +1 year of experience -1 year of health for the prior generation.

Bench has to be improved.

Agreed. Through training, conditioning and experience. Our current team is the best we can realistically achieve next year. Now, if Beal falls in our lap through some shenanigans somehow, cool. But living in the real world, this team is perfect.