Warriors push the envelope on hand contact

[angryguy77]

Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.

You posted a couple of bad calls against the Celtics. They got their butts handed to them. I don't see a cause and effect relationship. Correlation does not imply causation.

If one of those calls led to a one point loss, I'm with you. Look back at the Game thread from last night during the 3Q. While this board as a whole likes to deflect from the team's poor play, you will notice that a majority of the comments had to do with the Celtics playing poorly in the 3Q. The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

I gave you evidence of calls not being made despite the fouls happening in plain sight of the refs. It wasn't just one call, it was several, meaning it was a trend, not accident. I'm not showing you a scrum that could be missed on a post up, these are wide open illegal plays that were allowed to happen. If they were allowing these, that means they were allowing others.

The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

Laker fans were telling Kings fans that very thing in 02.

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.

You posted a couple of bad calls against the Celtics. They got their butts handed to them. I don't see a cause and effect relationship. Correlation does not imply causation.

If one of those calls led to a one point loss, I'm with you. Look back at the Game thread from last night during the 3Q. While this board as a whole likes to deflect from the team's poor play, you will notice that a majority of the comments had to do with the Celtics playing poorly in the 3Q. The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

I gave you evidence of calls not being made despite the fouls happening in plain sight of the refs. It wasn't just one call, it was several, meaning it was a trend, not accident. I'm not showing you a scrum that could be missed on a post up, these are wide open illegal plays that were allowed to happen. If they were allowing these, that means they were allowing others.

The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

Laker fans were telling Kings fans that very thing in 02.

The Celtics were down by 30pts when the starters came out. Are you saying that the refs accounted for a 30pt swing?

[86MaxwellSmart]

Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.

You posted a couple of bad calls against the Celtics. They got their butts handed to them. I don't see a cause and effect relationship. Correlation does not imply causation.

If one of those calls led to a one point loss, I'm with you. Look back at the Game thread from last night during the 3Q. While this board as a whole likes to deflect from the team's poor play, you will notice that a majority of the comments had to do with the Celtics playing poorly in the 3Q. The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

I gave you evidence of calls not being made despite the fouls happening in plain sight of the refs. It wasn't just one call, it was several, meaning it was a trend, not accident. I'm not showing you a scrum that could be missed on a post up, these are wide open illegal plays that were allowed to happen. If they were allowing these, that means they were allowing others.

The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

Laker fans were telling Kings fans that very thing in 02.

Yup--There was NO WAY in hell the NBA was gonna let GSW go down 2-0....You are blind if you don't see it.

[libermaniac]

Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.

You posted a couple of bad calls against the Celtics. They got their butts handed to them. I don't see a cause and effect relationship. Correlation does not imply causation.

If one of those calls led to a one point loss, I'm with you. Look back at the Game thread from last night during the 3Q. While this board as a whole likes to deflect from the team's poor play, you will notice that a majority of the comments had to do with the Celtics playing poorly in the 3Q. The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

I gave you evidence of calls not being made despite the fouls happening in plain sight of the refs. It wasn't just one call, it was several, meaning it was a trend, not accident. I'm not showing you a scrum that could be missed on a post up, these are wide open illegal plays that were allowed to happen. If they were allowing these, that means they were allowing others.

The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

Laker fans were telling Kings fans that very thing in 02.

The Celtics were down by 30pts when the starters came out. Are you saying that the refs accounted for a 30pt swing?

I don’t think you can just account for the calls in a vacuum as if they had no effect on the rest of the game. From my perspective the way the refs were calling things made the Cs tentative to drive on offense, and emboldened the Warriors to grab and push almost at will. That had an effect on the psyche and approach of both teams in the second half. Perhaps a more seasoned and mentally tough team could’ve overcome that, and there is no way to know whether it could have accounted for a 30 point swing, but IMO it was a clear and blatant attempt by the league to ensure that this Series goes longer. 

[nyceltsfan]

Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.

You posted a couple of bad calls against the Celtics. They got their butts handed to them. I don't see a cause and effect relationship. Correlation does not imply causation.

If one of those calls led to a one point loss, I'm with you. Look back at the Game thread from last night during the 3Q. While this board as a whole likes to deflect from the team's poor play, you will notice that a majority of the comments had to do with the Celtics playing poorly in the 3Q. The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

I gave you evidence of calls not being made despite the fouls happening in plain sight of the refs. It wasn't just one call, it was several, meaning it was a trend, not accident. I'm not showing you a scrum that could be missed on a post up, these are wide open illegal plays that were allowed to happen. If they were allowing these, that means they were allowing others.

The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

Laker fans were telling Kings fans that very thing in 02.

The Celtics were down by 30pts when the starters came out. Are you saying that the refs accounted for a 30pt swing?

Can you definitively say that the game would have played out the same way if it was called fairly?  If the assumption was that under fair officiating, the C's would have been up by double-digits at halftime, does that not change how the 3rd quarter is played?  Even if we assume that the third quarter plays out the exact same way, the deficit at the time the starters were pulled would have been 18 or 19 instead of 29.  That could have changed the outcome as well.

If Green was ejected, would that have changed the way GS played?  If technicals and flagrants were called or even if common fouls were called both ways, would that have changed the outcome?

For sure, the C's played terribly last night, but I don't think the league should stick its head in the sand and pretend the refs did not have a hand in the outcome.

[angryguy77]

Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.

You posted a couple of bad calls against the Celtics. They got their butts handed to them. I don't see a cause and effect relationship. Correlation does not imply causation.

If one of those calls led to a one point loss, I'm with you. Look back at the Game thread from last night during the 3Q. While this board as a whole likes to deflect from the team's poor play, you will notice that a majority of the comments had to do with the Celtics playing poorly in the 3Q. The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

I gave you evidence of calls not being made despite the fouls happening in plain sight of the refs. It wasn't just one call, it was several, meaning it was a trend, not accident. I'm not showing you a scrum that could be missed on a post up, these are wide open illegal plays that were allowed to happen. If they were allowing these, that means they were allowing others.

The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

Laker fans were telling Kings fans that very thing in 02.

The Celtics were down by 30pts when the starters came out. Are you saying that the refs accounted for a 30pt swing?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6c9j0/great_defense_man_literally_got_put_in_an_arm_bar/

I dunno, hard to not be down thirty when you have to shoot the ball with one arm being locked up.

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

Given the silence of many, I guess I'm wrong and you guys are right. I haven't seen another poster admit that the Celtics are responsible for that loss.

The refs cost the Celtics game 2. The NBA is a pre-determined joke like the WWF. We have wasted our time watching the playoffs and these past 2 games. I have enjoyed basketball and the Celtics, and now its time for other pursuits.

[johnnygreen]

Given the silence of many, I guess I'm wrong and you guys are right. I haven't seen another poster admit that the Celtics are responsible for that loss.

The refs cost the Celtics game 2. The NBA is a pre-determined joke like the WWF. We have wasted our time watching the playoffs and these past 2 games. I have enjoyed basketball and the Celtics, and now its time for other pursuits.

I think I may have started this debate, so I'm with you. If they knew the fix was in, I'm surprised all these people even bothered to watch the game.

I understand the trickle down effect of refs making bad calls, but last night was not one of them. I can't fathom how so many posters here are making excuses for the Celtics awful play last night.

[Celtics2021]

Given the silence of many, I guess I'm wrong and you guys are right. I haven't seen another poster admit that the Celtics are responsible for that loss.

The refs cost the Celtics game 2. The NBA is a pre-determined joke like the WWF. We have wasted our time watching the playoffs and these past 2 games. I have enjoyed basketball and the Celtics, and now its time for other pursuits.

I think I may have started this debate, so I'm with you. If they knew the fix was in, I'm surprised all these people even bothered to watch the game.

I understand the trickle down effect of refs making bad calls, but last night was not one of them. I can't fathom how so many posters here are making excuses for the Celtics awful play last night.

I can't fathom how any posters are making excuses for Zach Zarba’s and Tony Brothers' awful officiating last night.  Even my kindergartener saw Grant Williams get run over and said "You can't do that! That's a foul, right??"

[angryguy77]

Given the silence of many, I guess I'm wrong and you guys are right. I haven't seen another poster admit that the Celtics are responsible for that loss.

The refs cost the Celtics game 2. The NBA is a pre-determined joke like the WWF. We have wasted our time watching the playoffs and these past 2 games. I have enjoyed basketball and the Celtics, and now its time for other pursuits.

I think I may have started this debate, so I'm with you. If they knew the fix was in, I'm surprised all these people even bothered to watch the game.

I understand the trickle down effect of refs making bad calls, but last night was not one of them. I can't fathom how so many posters here are making excuses for the Celtics awful play last night.

 
Thing is, while we may have expected a screw job, I don't think we expected it to be this blatant. I'm not exaggerating when I can say I've never seen such obvious blown calls. Go watch the links I posted earlier. You can't win a game when that's being allowed.

 Can you remember a game where an ex ref stated that they won't give a 2nd T if the player already had one and then have that player follow up after the game saying he gets special treatment?

This game wasn't just bad, it was Ric Flair special guest referee bad.

[angryguy77]

Given the silence of many, I guess I'm wrong and you guys are right. I haven't seen another poster admit that the Celtics are responsible for that loss.

The refs cost the Celtics game 2. The NBA is a pre-determined joke like the WWF. We have wasted our time watching the playoffs and these past 2 games. I have enjoyed basketball and the Celtics, and now its time for other pursuits.

I think I may have started this debate, so I'm with you. If they knew the fix was in, I'm surprised all these people even bothered to watch the game.

I understand the trickle down effect of refs making bad calls, but last night was not one of them. I can't fathom how so many posters here are making excuses for the Celtics awful play last night.

I can't fathom how any posters are making excuses for Zach Zarba’s and Tony Brothers' awful officiating last night.  Even my kindergartener saw Grant Williams get run over and said "You can't do that! That's a foul, right??"

These same posters would say the football team in the opening of The Last Boy Scout should've just matched the intensity of the other team who had a gun rather than stop playing.