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Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2022, 09:44:13 AM »

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To place any blame on the refs for last night's loss, is ridiculous. Not only couldn't the Celtics not make a shot, but they were blatantly throwing passes directly to the Warriors players. I swear, most of the bad passes never had a chance.

BTW, how can 3 starters only have 2 points each. How is that possible?

Celtics can play like garbage and the refs also can be hot garbage. it isn't mutually exclusive. just because the celtics played dumb doesnt mean you let the refs off the hook. there is a reason Ime layed into the refs.

 You dont let the bad officiating off just because celtics also made mistakes. it was obvious from tipoff that this game was going to be called differently than game 1.

who knows what happens if fouls arent 7-3 in the first quarter and you have to take out brown who is automatic.

then come the 4th when it is out of reach, you get the ticky tack fouls on the warriors so the casuals can point out that the FT numbers were the same. even when the timing is more important. its like clockwork with this league.


Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2022, 09:49:48 AM »

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To place any blame on the refs for last night's loss, is ridiculous. Not only couldn't the Celtics not make a shot, but they were blatantly throwing passes directly to the Warriors players. I swear, most of the bad passes never had a chance.

BTW, how can 3 starters only have 2 points each. How is that possible?

Refs set the tone and took all early momentum away from Boston.  Celtic players were then looking for the same calls and didn’t get them. The warriors were allowed to pull, push, tackle, grab, hold, arm bar, lay on players and kick them with no resistance from the refs…causing more turnovers.

Tatum was raked three times going to the rim and no call… resulted in a turnover.

The one thing I blame the Celtics for was just hunting for fouls on offense.  I mean it was tied in the third early but Celtics just didn’t get a fair whistle. The lazy offense and majority of turnovers are on the Celtics. Have to be better.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2022, 09:59:09 AM »

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To place any blame on the refs for last night's loss, is ridiculous. Not only couldn't the Celtics not make a shot, but they were blatantly throwing passes directly to the Warriors players. I swear, most of the bad passes never had a chance.

BTW, how can 3 starters only have 2 points each. How is that possible?

Refs set the tone and took all early momentum away from Boston.  Celtic players were then looking for the same calls and didn’t get them. The warriors were allowed to pull, push, tackle, grab, hold, arm bar, lay on players and kick them with no resistance from the refs…causing more turnovers.

Tatum was raked three times going to the rim and no call… resulted in a turnover.

The one thing I blame the Celtics for was just hunting for fouls on offense.  I mean it was tied in the third early but Celtics just didn’t get a fair whistle. The lazy offense and majority of turnovers are on the Celtics. Have to be better.


Exactly. thing is, everyone knew how this game was going to be officiated from the start....which isn't that a bad sign for the NBA?

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2022, 10:02:23 AM »

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Green looked like he thought he was in an NFL game last night.  So much blatant BS.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2022, 10:32:24 AM »

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To place any blame on the refs for last night's loss, is ridiculous. Not only couldn't the Celtics not make a shot, but they were blatantly throwing passes directly to the Warriors players. I swear, most of the bad passes never had a chance.

BTW, how can 3 starters only have 2 points each. How is that possible?

I will bet you the deed to my house that game 3 is a game where they let both teams play and we win. Then in game 4 they send in Foster.

Bookmark this thread and revisit it in 6 days.
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Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2022, 10:43:01 AM »

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To place any blame on the refs for last night's loss, is ridiculous. Not only couldn't the Celtics not make a shot, but they were blatantly throwing passes directly to the Warriors players. I swear, most of the bad passes never had a chance.

BTW, how can 3 starters only have 2 points each. How is that possible?

I will bet you the deed to my house that game 3 is a game where they let both teams play and we win. Then in game 4 they send in Foster.

Bookmark this thread and revisit it in 6 days.

I expect Foster on Wednesday.  We’ve done an okay job at playing through him aside from Game 1 vs. Milwaukee.  We’re 3-1 when he’s called us this postseason.  We’re 1-5 with Zarba, with only the Tatum buzzer-beater against the Nets in game 1 preventing us from being 0-6.

I want to repeat that — the Celtics are 12-2 this postseason when Zarba hasn’t called the game, and they’re 1-5 when he has.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2022, 10:50:13 AM »

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To place any blame on the refs for last night's loss, is ridiculous. Not only couldn't the Celtics not make a shot, but they were blatantly throwing passes directly to the Warriors players. I swear, most of the bad passes never had a chance.

BTW, how can 3 starters only have 2 points each. How is that possible?

I will bet you the deed to my house that game 3 is a game where they let both teams play and we win. Then in game 4 they send in Foster.

Bookmark this thread and revisit it in 6 days.

I would honestly take this bet. NBA got the split they wanted now its back to game 1 reffing.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2022, 10:51:42 AM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2022, 11:00:12 AM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Honestly, the Celtics did a decent job of that last night.  I’m not sure how the Celtics are supposed to “play through contact” when Grant Williams is literally getting thrown to the ground and being called for the foul, when players are literally pinned to the ground or tripped to prevent transition opportunities, while getting called for holding on inbounds played that are blatantly not called the other direction, never mind shooting fouls when literally no contact was made.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2022, 11:06:26 AM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2022, 11:09:09 AM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2022, 11:11:44 AM »

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Last nights game was a joke. Don't get me wrong I feel the Celtics would have lost no matter what but what Draymond was able to get away with was an absolute joke.

He should have been ejected in the second quarter, but because he already had a technical he was allocated more leniency? The issuance of a technical should not be subjective whether or not a player has one already. If a player commits an act that merits a technical then a technical should be issued irregardless of the implications.

The refs killed all momentum we had - Jaylen was red hot and the refs essentially take him out of the game on a BS call on Payton. We had a fast break and the whistle gets blown for a technical that eventually gets overturned?

Again, we would have lost either way but the refs took us out of that game unjustly and in the NBA finals - in front of a world wide audience, it's an absolute travesty.
I just said the same exact thing in the game thread.  TP.

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Honestly I'm surprised Ime didnt challenge the Jaylen foul on Payton - solely based on the fact that Jaylen couldn't miss and knowing he'd have to sit him for a prolonged amount of time seeing it was his second foul so early in the game. The call would have had to been overturned upon review, and in that case don't we get our challenge back?

I dont agree with saving challenges, who knows if you'll have a better opportunity to use it.

Once the challenge is used, it's gone regardless of the outcome. If the challenge is successful and the call is overturned, you get the timeout back. Ime probably wanted to save it for a possible late game situation which is smart.

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Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2022, 11:13:40 AM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2022, 11:17:12 AM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2022, 11:17:30 AM »

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To place any blame on the refs for last night's loss, is ridiculous. Not only couldn't the Celtics not make a shot, but they were blatantly throwing passes directly to the Warriors players. I swear, most of the bad passes never had a chance.

BTW, how can 3 starters only have 2 points each. How is that possible?

I will bet you the deed to my house that game 3 is a game where they let both teams play and we win. Then in game 4 they send in Foster.

Bookmark this thread and revisit it in 6 days.

Instead of the deed to your house, how about $100?

We can set up Venmo through PM's. The terms of the bet are: the Celtics win Game 3, Foster refs game 4, and the Celtics lose game 4? If those three conditions are met, I send you $100?