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Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2022, 11:19:48 AM »

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Another player that got no respect from the refs last night was Derrick White. Seems every time he went to the hoop someone clobbered him in the head or arm - nothing was called.

The refs also didn't respect Marcus' quickness last night either. Twice it looked like he established position, yet got whistled for a foul.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2022, 11:25:19 AM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2022, 11:31:47 AM »

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One more thing: the commentators and the NBA official's specialist were on board with not calling a second technical on Green given the importance of the game.

Normally, I might be okay with that. But Green shouldn't be given Boy Scout credit. He's a thug. How many times has he been fined or tossed from games. He should have learned by now how to behave. Instead these officials let him free to continue with this behavior.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2022, 12:05:33 PM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2022, 12:17:30 PM »

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League got their desired result a 1-1 series. So I would put any money on Celtics being reffed fairly next game and winning.

Game 4 might be another story. But just win at home and you are up 3-1. Put this game behind you

Only thing that scares me is the Celtics record at home. But our record after a loss tells me we should win Wednesday

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2022, 02:48:33 PM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2022, 02:53:16 PM »

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Last nights game was a joke. Don't get me wrong I feel the Celtics would have lost no matter what but what Draymond was able to get away with was an absolute joke.

He should have been ejected in the second quarter, but because he already had a technical he was allocated more leniency? The issuance of a technical should not be subjective whether or not a player has one already. If a player commits an act that merits a technical then a technical should be issued irregardless of the implications.

The refs killed all momentum we had - Jaylen was red hot and the refs essentially take him out of the game on a BS call on Payton. We had a fast break and the whistle gets blown for a technical that eventually gets overturned?

Again, we would have lost either way but the refs took us out of that game unjustly and in the NBA finals - in front of a world wide audience, it's an absolute travesty.
I’m not sure we would’ve lost either way. The officiating set the tone and forced the Cs to be less aggressive and less confident of the offensive side. Classic case of the refs “subtly” impacting a game. It’s safe to say the Cs would’ve had a double digit lead at half of it was called fairly. Then, who knows if the Warriors have that same third quarter run?

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2022, 02:55:42 PM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.
Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2022, 03:00:40 PM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

This completely ignores the fact that the starters were benched most or all of the 4th quarter (depending on the player) because the deficit was so large.  So yeah, no one accumulated too many fouls, but there are reasons why the happened.

The game was called very differently for both teams, as it has all postseason long for Zarba, which is why the Celtics are 1-5 when he refs and 13-2 when he doesn’t.  Some things are more difficult to overcome than others, and Zarba has proved more difficult than any team that the Celtics have faced.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2022, 03:01:02 PM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2022, 03:05:45 PM »

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Last nights game was a joke. Don't get me wrong I feel the Celtics would have lost no matter what but what Draymond was able to get away with was an absolute joke.

He should have been ejected in the second quarter, but because he already had a technical he was allocated more leniency? The issuance of a technical should not be subjective whether or not a player has one already. If a player commits an act that merits a technical then a technical should be issued irregardless of the implications.

The refs killed all momentum we had - Jaylen was red hot and the refs essentially take him out of the game on a BS call on Payton. We had a fast break and the whistle gets blown for a technical that eventually gets overturned?

Again, we would have lost either way but the refs took us out of that game unjustly and in the NBA finals - in front of a world wide audience, it's an absolute travesty.
I’m not sure we would’ve lost either way. The officiating set the tone and forced the Cs to be less aggressive and less confident of the offensive side. Classic case of the refs “subtly” impacting a game. It’s safe to say the Cs would’ve had a double digit lead at half of it was called fairly. Then, who knows if the Warriors have that same third quarter run?

There was another one where Draymond drove to the hoop, lowered his shoulder into the chest of Smart and Marcus got called foe a foul.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2022, 03:09:03 PM »

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Last nights game was a joke. Don't get me wrong I feel the Celtics would have lost no matter what but what Draymond was able to get away with was an absolute joke.

He should have been ejected in the second quarter, but because he already had a technical he was allocated more leniency? The issuance of a technical should not be subjective whether or not a player has one already. If a player commits an act that merits a technical then a technical should be issued irregardless of the implications.

The refs killed all momentum we had - Jaylen was red hot and the refs essentially take him out of the game on a BS call on Payton. We had a fast break and the whistle gets blown for a technical that eventually gets overturned?

Again, we would have lost either way but the refs took us out of that game unjustly and in the NBA finals - in front of a world wide audience, it's an absolute travesty.
I’m not sure we would’ve lost either way. The officiating set the tone and forced the Cs to be less aggressive and less confident of the offensive side. Classic case of the refs “subtly” impacting a game. It’s safe to say the Cs would’ve had a double digit lead at half of it was called fairly. Then, who knows if the Warriors have that same third quarter run?

First we're blaming refs for our own inadequacies. Now we're relying on refs for confidence? Yikes.

I read your claim that its safe to say they would have had a double digit lead. I don't see the evidence to back it up. Why is it safe to say that?

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2022, 03:11:22 PM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.
Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2022, 03:13:55 PM »

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Here's an idea. If it's obvious the referees aren't going to give you calls, then stop flopping/trying to sell calls. Play through the contact and concentrate on finishing.

Was the refereeing one sided, yes. However, these guys have been in the league long enough and should realize it happens and was going to happen last night. At some point, you need to simply adjust your game and man up, and stop crying to the refs to bail you out.

I was far more frustrated with their careless passing than the refs last night. Their passing was beyond inexcusable.

Ding ding ding.

No excuses, play like a champion. If Draymond plays dirty, you play dirty. If they hand check, you need to hand check.

The refs are not the issue!

The issues are TO's and soft defense!

The minute Boston tries to the do this they get called for it…hence the issues with the refs.

Did you see the second foul called on brown? He never touched Payton. No imagine Boston trying to muck it up as much as Green did. They would have been called for everything.

I guess until they try, we need to go by your narrative that the refs are trying to screw the Celtics?

If I'm Udoka, I'm telling my guys to get used to playing in the mud, and I'll handle the refs. Control what you can control, which is your effort and execution. Neither were there last night.

Game one was officiated well. Last night was one sided. I think everyone can see this. In fact green said it himself that it was.

I’m not saying the Celtics are not at fault either…the turnovers are and have been an issue. But it can be both poor officiating and execution.

Tim Tebow (hahaha) has a quote, though I think he's basically copying someone else. Nonetheless:

“Don’t worry about what you can’t control. Our focus and energy needs to be on the things we can control. Attitude, effort, focus- these are the things we can control…”

While I have to think that the Celtics are more invested than the CelticsStrong blog, I would hate to think that they are using excuses. This type of thinking will get them blown out in the NBA Finals.

You continue to say Boston should be just as physical but many player and Ime said they weren’t allowed:

“Multiple Boston players and Ime Udoka all referenced that Green upped his physicality in Game 2. But they also mentioned that the Celtics weren’t allowed by the referees to match that increased physicality.”

I'm not sure if that's true. Not one Celtic was in trouble of fouling out, and Smart is the only one that had 4 fouls. Only two guys had 3 (Jaylen and Grant), and the rest of the team had two fouls. Now, we can say this is because the starters didn't play the entire game, but I'm not sure this fits the narrative that the refs were being mean to us.

Play physical and let's have someone foul out before we claim an injustice has been rendered. Adapt or die.

It's not the amount, it's when they are called.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v67snh/how_is_this_legal/?sort=new

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v64uny/i_usually_dont_like_to_complain_about_officiating/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v66ydm/draymond_bulldozes_into_grant_williams_apparently/

Yup, nothing to see here, refs did a wonderful job and gave them a fair shake. I mean the team really needed to match the physicallity of GS after this

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/v6920n/still_cant_believe_this_was_called_last_night/

Wake up.

I'm not commenting about the refs (good or bad). I'm making the comment that they had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And I just gave you evidence they did.

You posted a couple of bad calls against the Celtics. They got their butts handed to them. I don't see a cause and effect relationship. Correlation does not imply causation.

If one of those calls led to a one point loss, I'm with you. Look back at the Game thread from last night during the 3Q. While this board as a whole likes to deflect from the team's poor play, you will notice that a majority of the comments had to do with the Celtics playing poorly in the 3Q. The Celtics lost the game, not the refs.

Re: Warriors push the envelope on hand contact
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Not sure if this was referenced in this thread already, but one sequence that could have been completely avoided if the refs had been more pro-active about Green's antics, was when he and Tatum were in each other's space awaiting a Golden State in inbounds.  I'm not sure what the hold up was with the refs giving the ball to the Warriors for the inbounds, but there was a  prolonged wait.  During the wait their jostling with each other esclated, with Green clearly trying to get a reaction from Tatum.  There was ample opprtunity for the refs to step in and say "knock it off fellas".  But nothing of the sort happened.  When Golden State finally inbounded it, Green forced separation off Tatum and flopped to the floor drawing a eidiculous foul.
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