Juan Hernangomez Throws Shade At Unnamed Celtics Players

[Roy H.]

Juancho Hernangomez: “I came from from Boston, where team-wise players were a little selfish, there was a lot of ego involved. Then after changing seven players, they’ve learned how to play and play very well with 7-8 (guys). That was the problem, there was no team-building away from the court.”

For those who speak Spanish:

https://twitter.com/MovistarNBA/status/1529856385252573184?t=QyDIRgLktp3k1H35zOuN5A&s=08

[Vermont Green]

Juancho Hernangomez: “I came from from Boston, where team-wise players were a little selfish, there was a lot of ego involved. Then after changing seven players, they’ve learned how to play and play very well with 7-8 (guys). That was the problem, there was no team-building away from the court.”

For those who speak Spanish:

https://twitter.com/MovistarNBA/status/1529856385252573184?t=QyDIRgLktp3k1H35zOuN5A&s=08

Not sure I understand what he is saying.  Is it that when the team made the changes so that there was a more defined 7 or 8 man rotation (trading Schroeder and Richardson for White and Theis), that it solved the "selfishness" problem?  I don't see how being selfish relates to how they changed the rotation unless he is referring to the players that are no longer there (Schroeder and Richardson?).  Having White take minutes from Schroeder is better in terms of the selfishness of the player but other than that, I don't get what he is trying to say.

At any rate, if he is implying that our core team players are or were selfish, than I disagree.  Tatum, Brown, Smart, Horford, RWill, GWill were all core players when JHern was here.  None of these are selfish players, far from it.  And their track record is far more than the few months that JHern was here.  Schroeder seemed to just do his own thing when he was on the court so I could see that being interpreted as selfish but I never got a selfish vibe from Richardson.  So I don't know what JHern is trying to say except that he likes the trades for White and Theis I guess.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Hernangomez is not a good basketball player. He thinks "team basketball" is that he gets the ball too, which he wasn't good enough for. That's why he's never been a good rotation player for a good basketball team, and why he keeps going to new teams.

[droopdog7]

Is this trash talking?  It seems to be he just describing what we all saw.  We sucked, we changed, we conquered.

[Roy H.]

Is this trash talking?  It seems to be he just describing what we all saw.  We sucked, we changed, we conquered.

Well, a bum of a player is calling our guys selfish and egotistical (but of course not himself).  It could be he means Schroder and Freedom, or it could be he means the guy who were blocking his imaginary spot in the rotation.

I mean, the change came well before the trade deadline, didn't it?  We had won 7 of 8 heading into the deadline, and in general are seen as having started the turnaround on December 31 (Phoenix game) or January 8 (a big win after being three games below .500) or January 23 (when we started to kill teams, winning 11 of 12 and finishing out the season 27-7).

Since Hernangomez was traded on January 19 for pure garbage, I'm attributing the turnaround to him being shipped out of town.  Team cancer, clearly.

[heyvik]

Does he get a ring if the C's win it all?

[Roy H.]

Does he get a ring if the C's win it all?

Not anymore.

[wiley]

pretty sure he's saying what all the media had been saying and what Marcus Smart said earlier in the year (about passing)...

He ends on a positive so that's fine by me.  I mean, is he supposed to not answer the question because he's not a star?

[JohnBoy65]

It's the last piece that intrigues me the most. "There was no team building off the court." That seems to imply this wasn't a close knit team. Of course, we'll have no way to know that. Though it makes sense the team was terrible, there were personalities that big (Schroeder and Smart), and people continually were saying JB and JT can't play together. If that's your 'work' every day why would you want to hang out outside of work?

If I didn't like the way people in my profession worked, I kept getting called out, and was told what I was doing won't work, I certainly wouldn't be trying to find time for those people in my personal life.

[Phantom255x]

Is he really wrong though? I feel like multiple C's players including Smart have pretty much echoed the same, but that they figured stuff out along the way and it helped to turn their seasons around. Hernangomez is basically saying the same and acknowledged they've figured it out.

Also the more I look into things, I'm sure the team was happy with Richardson but maybe Schroder was actually a problem in the locker room as well. The fit wasn't great as was evident but Schroder might have also had an ego which came with him trying to "be that guy" and play for a future contract. He definitely cost us some games with that sort of attitude/mindset.

[gouki88]

Juancho Hernangomez: “I came from from Boston, where team-wise players were a little selfish, there was a lot of ego involved. Then after changing seven players, they’ve learned how to play and play very well with 7-8 (guys). That was the problem, there was no team-building away from the court.”

For those who speak Spanish:

https://twitter.com/MovistarNBA/status/1529856385252573184?t=QyDIRgLktp3k1H35zOuN5A&s=08

I wonder if he sees any irony in our team chemistry seemingly becoming much better as soon as he and a few others left.

[Neurotic Guy]

Juancho Hernangomez: “I came from from Boston, where team-wise players were a little selfish, there was a lot of ego involved. Then after changing seven players, they’ve learned how to play and play very well with 7-8 (guys). That was the problem, there was no team-building away from the court.”

For those who speak Spanish:

https://twitter.com/MovistarNBA/status/1529856385252573184?t=QyDIRgLktp3k1H35zOuN5A&s=08

Not sure I understand what he is saying.  Is it that when the team made the changes so that there was a more defined 7 or 8 man rotation (trading Schroeder and Richardson for White and Theis), that it solved the "selfishness" problem?  I don't see how being selfish relates to how they changed the rotation unless he is referring to the players that are no longer there (Schroeder and Richardson?).  Having White take minutes from Schroeder is better in terms of the selfishness of the player but other than that, I don't get what he is trying to say.

At any rate, if he is implying that our core team players are or were selfish, than I disagree.  Tatum, Brown, Smart, Horford, RWill, GWill were all core players when JHern was here.  None of these are selfish players, far from it.  And their track record is far more than the few months that JHern was here.  Schroeder seemed to just do his own thing when he was on the court so I could see that being interpreted as selfish but I never got a selfish vibe from Richardson.  So I don't know what JHern is trying to say except that he likes the trades for White and Theis I guess.

I hear what you're saying and I don't think the core guys seem like selfish guys, but I do think the core guys are young and it doesn't surprise me that they've need to grow together and mature together.   And sometimes it takes a change in focus, change in attitude, change in culture.... to make that maturity develop. Personnel changes, winning... a couple of helpful components to the C's season.

[JohnBoy65]

I think it's also important to point out that for a season and a half the Celtics played .500 basketball. I can't imagine it was fun group to be around, especially since the core guys (Marcus, Jaylen, Jayson, and Al) all had pretty sustained success prior to the last year and a half.

[Atzar]

Is he wrong?  I don't think he is.

We played "my turn, your turn" basketball for the first half of the season.  One guy would iso while the rest of the guys stood around the three point line (or in the dunker's hole, in Rob's case) waiting for a pass.  I don't necessarily think the guys - with the possible exception of Schroder - were deliberately being selfish.  I just think they had no idea how to play team basketball.  It got to the point where Embiid called us out after a game because our iso crap made us really predictable and easy to guard.

As for the team-building off-court stuff, perhaps the team just never really took Juancho in.  Because a lot of these other guys always seemed pretty close to me.  Brown and Smart seem pretty close.  Tatum has a pretty well-established bromance with Rob.  Grant and Al get along with everybody.  So maybe this guy just thinks there was no team-building because he wasn't included in it.  Just a guess though. 

[droopdog7]

Is this trash talking?  It seems to be he just describing what we all saw.  We sucked, we changed, we conquered.

Well, a bum of a player is calling our guys selfish and egotistical (but of course not himself).  It could be he means Schroder and Freedom, or it could be he means the guy who were blocking his imaginary spot in the rotation.

I mean, the change came well before the trade deadline, didn't it?  We had won 7 of 8 heading into the deadline, and in general are seen as having started the turnaround on December 31 (Phoenix game) or January 8 (a big win after being three games below .500) or January 23 (when we started to kill teams, winning 11 of 12 and finishing out the season 27-7).

Since Hernangomez was traded on January 19 for pure garbage, I'm attributing the turnaround to him being shipped out of town.  Team cancer, clearly.

Bum player?  Dude was actually in the locker room.  That's like, a zallion times more credible that the fan or commentator making that comment.  This is not shade at all.