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Anything controversial about that Strus non-three…
« on: May 30, 2022, 10:22:25 AM »

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… that was taken off the board?

Miami fans seem to think so.  I don’t see it.


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I'll admit we had some guests over last night and I was occupied at times with that so I didn't watch the whole game (just followed on this thread and Reddit GDT).

I did look at the replay, tbh he never stepped out of bounds and the heel was over the line but not touching. I think the ridiculous part is how they decided to overturn it like 5 minutes later in a conference finals game. Like could you imagine seeing a score, then being told 5 minutes later "oh btw we're docking 3 points from you because of that play from ages ago". Especially in a playoff game that ends close, that matters.

Then again, if the C's didn't screw around late and won by 12+ then it's probably not even talked about that much afterwards
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2022, 10:28:37 AM »

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He definitely stepped out of bounds and that’s part of the rules.  Not sure why it took so long.  Was that the next stoppage of play?

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I don’t know. I’ve only seen one camera angle and from that angle I can’t definitively say he stepped out, but it’s mute because he traveled. I understand why heat fans are upset, it’s weird that 3-4 minutes later 3 points are taken away. I’ve never seen a review like that before. Shot released on time, foot on the line? Sure, but that type of review, with that type of delay was odd.

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… that was taken off the board?

Miami fans seem to think so.  I don’t see it.

The Heat fans in the arena were also upset about the two 3s that were clearly after the shot clock being taken off the board, and I've seen some online upset about the 2 points we scored despite the clock operator not resetting the shot clock, so I'm not sure that they're worth listening to
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At the time of the play, refs are able to ask a review to be checked in the next time out or so I understand the rule.

Sucks for them, but it was the right call... too bad it took so long because there was no pause in the game, but it is what is.

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… that was taken off the board?

Miami fans seem to think so.  I don’t see it.

The Heat fans in the arena were also upset about the two 3s that were clearly after the shot clock being taken off the board, and I've seen some online upset about the 2 points we scored despite the clock operator not resetting the shot clock, so I'm not sure that they're worth listening to

I actually think those 2 points from Grant were a result of an egregious officiating error. Horn blew, and officials blew the whistle. That should’ve been a stoppage in play. We got the benefit of bad officiating there.

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… that was taken off the board?

Miami fans seem to think so.  I don’t see it.

The Heat fans in the arena were also upset about the two 3s that were clearly after the shot clock being taken off the board, and I've seen some online upset about the 2 points we scored despite the clock operator not resetting the shot clock, so I'm not sure that they're worth listening to

I actually think those 2 points from Grant were a result of an egregious officiating error. Horn blew, and officials blew the whistle. That should’ve been a stoppage in play. We got the benefit of bad officiating there.

Grant’s shot was up before the official blew the whistle, although not before the horn blew.  It was correct to have counted it, as the whistle is what officially stops the play, not the horn.

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… that was taken off the board?

Miami fans seem to think so.  I don’t see it.

The Heat fans in the arena were also upset about the two 3s that were clearly after the shot clock being taken off the board, and I've seen some online upset about the 2 points we scored despite the clock operator not resetting the shot clock, so I'm not sure that they're worth listening to

All 4 plays were called as they should have been, but I can understand why Miami fans are frustrated. The Strus 3 timing was strange, but they usually check those things during a stoppage. And the Grant shot they counted mostly because they didn't even blow the whistle for the violation until after Grant was putting the ball in. Yes, typically that type of play is blown off, but it would have been a total rip-off for the Cs as we were definitely scoring on that play.

Personally, I'm frustrated that every moving flop by Lowry is apparently an offensive foul and every moving screen by Bam isn't.

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It wouldn't shock me if the league screwed up the call despite having a replay, but I'd guess they got it right.

Heat fans have 0 to complain about. Live by the ref, die by the refs.

After the last two series, idk what a charge is anymore. I think if you're wearing green, the defender doesn't have to have both feet down?

What I don't understand is why a B tier star like Butler gets as much love as Giannis.
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… that was taken off the board?

Miami fans seem to think so.  I don’t see it.

The Heat fans in the arena were also upset about the two 3s that were clearly after the shot clock being taken off the board, and I've seen some online upset about the 2 points we scored despite the clock operator not resetting the shot clock, so I'm not sure that they're worth listening to

All 4 plays were called as they should have been, but I can understand why Miami fans are frustrated. The Strus 3 timing was strange, but they usually check those things during a stoppage. And the Grant shot they counted mostly because they didn't even blow the whistle for the violation until after Grant was putting the ball in. Yes, typically that type of play is blown off, but it would have been a total rip-off for the Cs as we were definitely scoring on that play.

Personally, I'm frustrated that every moving flop by Lowry is apparently an offensive foul and every moving screen by Bam isn't.

Yeah, Lowry gets a ridiculously kind whistle.  Tatum does not.

The play I thought was weird was Bam’s flying elbow drop to White’s head.  It actually drew blood, and they didn’t review it. 


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At the time of the play, refs are able to ask a review to be checked in the next time out or so I understand the rule.

Sucks for them, but it was the right call... too bad it took so long because there was no pause in the game, but it is what is.

Yeah. It happened to the Celtics several times over the past few seasons during regular season games. It's rare but not something unheard of. The refs have the right to flag it for review later and made the right call after reviewing it.

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… that was taken off the board?

Miami fans seem to think so.  I don’t see it.

The Heat fans in the arena were also upset about the two 3s that were clearly after the shot clock being taken off the board, and I've seen some online upset about the 2 points we scored despite the clock operator not resetting the shot clock, so I'm not sure that they're worth listening to

All 4 plays were called as they should have been, but I can understand why Miami fans are frustrated. The Strus 3 timing was strange, but they usually check those things during a stoppage. And the Grant shot they counted mostly because they didn't even blow the whistle for the violation until after Grant was putting the ball in. Yes, typically that type of play is blown off, but it would have been a total rip-off for the Cs as we were definitely scoring on that play.

Personally, I'm frustrated that every moving flop by Lowry is apparently an offensive foul and every moving screen by Bam isn't.

Yeah, Lowry gets a ridiculously kind whistle.  Tatum does not.

The play I thought was weird was Bam’s flying elbow drop to White’s head.  It actually drew blood, and they didn’t review it.

Yeah, I was incredulous that they didn’t review for a flagrant foul when a guy took an elbow to the head and had blood gushing from his scalp.  I’m honestly not sure if it was or wasn’t flagrant, but to not look at it?  White never re-entered the game after that hit.

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At the time of the play, refs are able to ask a review to be checked in the next time out or so I understand the rule.

Sucks for them, but it was the right call... too bad it took so long because there was no pause in the game, but it is what is.

Yeah. It happened to the Celtics several times over the past few seasons during regular season games. It's rare but not something unheard of. The refs have the right to flag it for review later and made the right call after reviewing it.

Yeah, they review more quickly towards the end of the game, but it was early in the 3rd quarter.

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They need to stop the game and review the shot if they are going to.  You can't just remove points several minutes later because it can change how teams play after that.  Now it was probably early enough that it didn't alter the outcome, but the optics are very bad.
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