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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2022, 09:51:50 AM »

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There's no "right shot" to consider here. He took a good shot, he missed it. The end. What if he drives, and gets blocked? Then the conversation goes, "why didn't he take that open three instead of challenging the savvy defender of Al Horford".

Dude played 48 minutes in the game, no rest...

Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2022, 09:51:56 AM »

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I think the refs are the ones that screamed in terror.

All that work keeping this series even down to the wire before letting the C's finish it out and Butler almost won it.

Miami cannot win in a cleanly ref'd match because their strategy is the Pistons. Tatum was fouled just about every time he touched it.

All of those times Tatum tried to split the double and turned it over and everyone boo'ed, he was playing by the book. They were just all fouls. He's too quick to be stopped by a pincer and so they have to put a body on him or slap anything they can.

I don't think anyone was interested in watching the entire team foul out in the 3rd quarter though.

Jimmy took the shot for that reason. He wanted it on his terms and didn't believe he could win in OT. Good decision.

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marcus misses at end and butlers shot would not have even mattered had these refs called game right whole way. had they we would have been up by 20 points and they know it. they did not want any lead getting over 12 or 13  in second half and it was obvious.
we actually with refs against us played well most all game and still went wire to wire. hell of a feat on the road game 7 for our 3rd road win? nuts

this game was the epitome of 8 on 5. yup the refs screwing us to get ratings and prevent a blowout almost backfired and got them the heat in a sweep in the finals. absolutely digusting and sickening what this league does.
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2022, 09:54:51 AM »

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I can understand everything, except that at 4 min remaining with +11 on the scoreboard, our last 5 shots were attempted by Marcus Smart and none of them fell in. That I realy don't understand...
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that cannot happen again. let JB or JT create. tell al he has to post up down low. something else. i promise you had PP been in he would have hit 1 of those threes. still we beat refs and heat and went wire to wire on road in a game 7. surreal how we pulled that off.
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2022, 09:58:31 AM »

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I would have cried at the end if we lost after that.

But watching it, it did kinda look like he front-rimmed it and he did. I don't think Butler should be blamed for taking the shot, it was an open look and who knows what happens if he settles it and allows Boston's defense to come back. But the shot did seem slightly rushed still, though I imagine Butler was gassed too which contributed to it.
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2022, 10:01:12 AM »

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There's no "right shot" to consider here. He took a good shot, he missed it. The end. What if he drives, and gets blocked? Then the conversation goes, "why didn't he take that open three instead of challenging the savvy defender of Al Horford".

Dude played 48 minutes in the game, no rest...

right. very well could have been blocked by AL. and if he makes it we still have time to score and win. now had we been in that spot the refs were not calling any foul that late. so if we drove to hoop with 17 seconds left we would have had to make sure we made the layup and finished. we would not get a call there. id rather drive than take a contested 3. and had we missed and no foul we go to OT where i had confidence we would win anyway because then there was enough time to get back to what was working and stop the meltdown. sort of like a reset plus miami was gassed as was butler
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2022, 10:05:25 AM »

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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2022, 10:33:47 AM »

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There's no "right shot" to consider here. He took a good shot, he missed it. The end. What if he drives, and gets blocked? Then the conversation goes, "why didn't he take that open three instead of challenging the savvy defender of Al Horford".

Dude played 48 minutes in the game, no rest...

also, forgot to add butler posted up or drove down low on AL and MISSED a shot
that was in his head also
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2022, 11:22:05 AM »

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That was a terrible shot for so many reasons.  I mean even if he would have made it, Boston would have had so much time to score it was just terrible.  And because of that even if that was Steph Curry doing that, it still would have been a bad decision (though Curry is the all time best at that and not a poor shooter like Butler). 
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2022, 11:45:07 AM »

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He is a champion and probably he felt that he should take that shot. Considering that the officers from my personal point of view were by far officiating on Miami's favour (2 or 3 charges that Lowry took were his foul instead + some ridicolous charge called to JB + some other missed call on JT), maybe a drive against Horford would have led to a foul. But this would have meant (in case of 2/2 from the line) final C's possession with 18 seconds on the clock with the game tied. If the 3 points shoot goes in, C's still have the final possession but trailing by 1 which would have been a completely different story....
If I am a Miami fan, I don't blame him for the decision he took...
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2022, 11:48:35 AM »

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I thought he made the right decision. It wasn’t a step back contested three. It was an open transition 3.

Had he blew past Horford for the easy 2, Celtics still have a timeout but there was enough time they try to run like they did against Brooklyn.

You’re giving Celtics whatever it was, like 12 seconds to either win with a dramatic buzzer beater or go to OT. Heat blew their load in the final 3 minutes of regulation and presumably had nothing left for an additional 5.

Had he made it, Celtics have to call the timeout and set up something quick in case they missed. Then the foul game with no timeouts on either side, who knows.

Can’t stand Butler, but I respect that decision. Was it hero ball? Maybe. But the other choices weren’t that great, either.

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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2022, 11:52:43 AM »

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Yeah. I mean, if he makes the shot the narrative is a lot different. He is a very confident player. It usually works to his benefit. Gotta take the bad with the good.

Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2022, 11:53:55 AM »

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That was a terrible shot for so many reasons.  I mean even if he would have made it, Boston would have had so much time to score it was just terrible.  And because of that even if that was Steph Curry doing that, it still would have been a bad decision (though Curry is the all time best at that and not a poor shooter like Butler).

I don't disagree.  But Butler was riding momentum. It's how that team plays.

Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2022, 12:18:01 PM »

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Now that we've won and that this missed shot is behind us, admit it : who thought it was going in and we were then going to lose after Miami took its first lead of the game with a few seconds left, in terrible fashion sending us back to past failures and big shots from other teams ?  :-*

I certainly screamed of terror

Thought it was for sure. Soon as he released it, I looked away from the TV. If that shot goes in, I think the C’s lose. Would have sucked the life out of them. Game should never have come down to that.
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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2022, 12:24:04 PM »

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There's no "right shot" to consider here. He took a good shot, he missed it. The end. What if he drives, and gets blocked? Then the conversation goes, "why didn't he take that open three instead of challenging the savvy defender of Al Horford".

Dude played 48 minutes in the game, no rest...

right. very well could have been blocked by AL. and if he makes it we still have time to score and win. now had we been in that spot the refs were not calling any foul that late. so if we drove to hoop with 17 seconds left we would have had to make sure we made the layup and finished. we would not get a call there. id rather drive than take a contested 3. and had we missed and no foul we go to OT where i had confidence we would win anyway because then there was enough time to get back to what was working and stop the meltdown. sort of like a reset plus miami was gassed as was butler

In that scenario had we driven inside, Heat players would just knock our guys down or just throw their bodies to the floor and get the ball back with no foul calls because "refs will let them play". Heat gets rebound, we foul, they take two FTs to then be up by 3. Then we'd prob have last possession and we force a three.


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Re: About that Butler 3 pointer at the end of G7...
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2022, 04:49:13 PM »

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He is a champion and probably he felt that he should take that shot. Considering that the officers from my personal point of view were by far officiating on Miami's favour (2 or 3 charges that Lowry took were his foul instead + some ridicolous charge called to JB + some other missed call on JT), maybe a drive against Horford would have led to a foul. But this would have meant (in case of 2/2 from the line) final C's possession with 18 seconds on the clock with the game tied. If the 3 points shoot goes in, C's still have the final possession but trailing by 1 which would have been a completely different story....
If I am a Miami fan, I don't blame him for the decision he took...
Side note 1: on our side, Smart made everything he could to lose the game apart from the free throws...why Ime didn't put White in???
Side note 2: is it just me or 80% of  the screens set by adebayo are offensive fouls???
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