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Why? Why? We had a timeout with about four seconds left. Plenty of time to try to tie or win it. Ugh. We should have won this. We need to win a game in Milwaukee or it’s over. We do not wanna have to win three in a row against the defending champs. Game four is practically must-win…we need to smack the crud out of these bullies, too, and up the flop theatrics/act injured every time Giannis charges so we can force the refs to properly call those charges…

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Why? Why? We had a timeout with about four seconds left. Plenty of time to try to tie or win it. Ugh. We should have won this. We need to win a game in Milwaukee or it’s over. We do not wanna have to win three in a row against the defending champs. Game four is practically must-win…

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I thought we were out of timeouts?

Even if we weren’t, we got multiple good looks from within a couple of feet from the hoop.


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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O
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Re: Should Have Called a Timeout When Marcus Caught the Missed FT
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Why? Why? We had a timeout with about four seconds left. Plenty of time to try to tie or win it. Ugh. We should have won this. We need to win a game in Milwaukee or it’s over. We do not wanna have to win three in a row against the defending champs. Game four is practically must-win…

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Could not agree more. Despite that, we had this. We had all the momentum. Bucks would have been utterly demoralized going into a timeout after seeing Smart trick them with the missed FT. Who knows, maybe Tatum or Brown gets open for a game-winning three. So [dang] upset that the refs stole this one from us.

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I don’t blame the players for going for it, but the coaching staff could have called it and set something up (three for the win IMO). That was tough.
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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO. That said, Ime is brilliant and will have us storming back with a big win in game four. Guys have gotta be p---ed by knowing the refs pushed the Bucks over the finish line. They will not allow another quarter like the third in this series is my guess. This is like playing the Lakers in 2008 (a function of Giannis in 2022 being as big as Kobe circa 2008): Refs will give it to our opponent if it’s close, so we need to hammer them all game long.
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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO.

You’d prefer one shot at sub-30% odds than three shots at the rim?


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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO.

You’d prefer one shot at sub-30% odds than three shots at the rim?

Three shots at the rim with Smart to start, and a jammed up paint? Tatum and Brown are clutch, so I disagree with sub-30% odds. You use that timeout, call a great play and let Tatum or Brown take the last shot. I believe Brown had enormous momentum in that quarter and would not have missed a decent-look two to tie or three to end the game.

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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO.

You’d prefer one shot at sub-30% odds than three shots at the rim?

Tatum and Brown are clutch, so I disagree with sub-30% odds. You use that timeout, call a great play and let Tatum or Brown take the last shot. I believe Brown had enormous momentum in that quarter and would not have missed a decent-look three to end the game.
Of which there is no guarantee, unlike the handful of chances we had at tip ins
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Re: Should Have Called a Timeout When Marcus Caught the Missed FT
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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO.

You’d prefer one shot at sub-30% odds than three shots at the rim?

Tatum and Brown are clutch, so I disagree with sub-30% odds. You use that timeout, call a great play and let Tatum or Brown take the last shot. I believe Brown had enormous momentum in that quarter and would not have missed a decent-look three to end the game.
Of which there is no guarantee, unlike the handful of chances we had at tip ins

Obviously no guarantee there either or we’d be in OT and this thread would not exist. I just feel like the Bucks would have been demoralized going into an OT, and I always believe in trying to get your top two offensive players the last shot in the fourth.

I’m just emotional when we lose, particularly when we get a game stolen by the refs.

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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO.

You’d prefer one shot at sub-30% odds than three shots at the rim?

Tatum and Brown are clutch, so I disagree with sub-30% odds. You use that timeout, call a great play and let Tatum or Brown take the last shot. I believe Brown had enormous momentum in that quarter and would not have missed a decent-look three to end the game.
Of which there is no guarantee, unlike the handful of chances we had at tip ins

It would have been hard to call a timeout given that everyone was scrambling for the ball. Can you imagine Smart actually scoring on that putback only for the refs to waive it off because a timeout was called? On the other hand, could Smart have called the timeout himself after he got the rebound?

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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO.

You’d prefer one shot at sub-30% odds than three shots at the rim?

Tatum and Brown are clutch, so I disagree with sub-30% odds. You use that timeout, call a great play and let Tatum or Brown take the last shot. I believe Brown had enormous momentum in that quarter and would not have missed a decent-look three to end the game.
Of which there is no guarantee, unlike the handful of chances we had at tip ins

It would have been hard to call a timeout given that everyone was scrambling for the ball. Can you imagine Smart actually scoring on that putback only for the refs to waive it off because a timeout was called?

It’s Smart, not Tatum, Brown or Horford. Score after the TO and that would be forgotten. Even if Smart had scored the first put back without calling a TO, plenty of time left for the Bucks to take the last shot for a win.

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On the other hand, could Smart have called the timeout himself after he got the rebound?

Ime should have directed all players to call TO if we caught the missed FT.

I mean, hindsight is 20/20. And Ime has been amazing. This is like when Belichick makes one of those few errors where you wonder, “what-if?”

We need to win game four. That’s all I know for certain. It’s probably not possible to win three in a row against the champs, even without Middleton (and the fact they’re up 2-1 without Middleton tells me we need to get one more guy this off-season somehow/someway to make sure we can always get past the Bucks). Here’s the deal: I think if we can get past the Bucks, we’re going to be the champions. The Suns, Warriors, Heat and 76ers do not matchup nearly as well against us as Giannis/Bucks. This series is basically the NBA Finals to me at this point…

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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Agree

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We were generating better looks than we would have from a T/O

Strongly disagree. We were extremely fortunate that Smart sold the fake FT and caught it. Paint was way too jammed up after that, particularly with a 6’4 having the ball. A well-designed timeout play could have yielded the three for a win. Brown was on fire. I do not blame the players, but disagree with Ime’s thought process by not calling the TO.

You’d prefer one shot at sub-30% odds than three shots at the rim?

Tatum and Brown are clutch, so I disagree with sub-30% odds. You use that timeout, call a great play and let Tatum or Brown take the last shot. I believe Brown had enormous momentum in that quarter and would not have missed a decent-look three to end the game.
Of which there is no guarantee, unlike the handful of chances we had at tip ins

It would have been hard to call a timeout given that everyone was scrambling for the ball. Can you imagine Smart actually scoring on that putback only for the refs to waive it off because a timeout was called?

It’s Smart, not Tatum, Brown or Horford. Score after the TO and that would be forgotten. Even if Smart had scored the first put back without calling a TO, plenty of time left for the Bucks to take the last shot for a win.

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On the other hand, could Smart have called the timeout himself after he got the rebound?

Ime should have directed all players to call TO if we caught the missed FT.

I mean, hindsight is 20/20. And Ime has been amazing. This is like when Belichick makes one of those few errors where you wonder, “what-if?”

We need to win game four. That’s all I know for certain. It’s probably not possible to win three in a row against the champs, even without Middleton (and the fact they’re up 2-1 without Middleton tells me we need to get one more guy this off-season somehow/someway to make sure we can always get past the Bucks). Here’s the deal: I think if we can get past the Bucks, we’re going to be the champions. The Suns, Warriors, Heat and 76ers do not matchup nearly as well against us as Giannis/Bucks. This series is basically the NBA Finals to me at this point…

The way the Bucks been playing against us lately Idk. If not this series, it may be the Warriors or Suns. Otherwise, go Celtics!


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