Our season in GRAPHS!

[Kiorrik]

Hello there! *

Just felt like sharing some charts

These are the only charts I've made - I'm not hiding charts that show different trends. I just looked at 3 separate stats I was curious about

Disclaimer: I didn't put any detail into the horizontal axes because I'm lazy.

Let's start off simple. This was the second chart I made, but I find it the most fun to look at, and a good primer




How many games we're over/under .500



This shows very clearly how our season progressed from a win/loss perspective. And how we definitely had a lil boom, of late.




Points scored FOR vs points scored AGAINST



This is an odd one. Red areas are for losses, green for wins. Probably should've been a different chart type, but whatever, I'm just doing this quick and dirty.

How to read this one: see how there's some spikes, but generally speaking, the first half of the chart is super erratic, and the second half is more a bunch of bigger fields.

This shows our team has been whimsical / inconsistent. Overall, we've been struggling to put the new system together. Be that due to injuries, covid, a new coach, a new system, trades, guys trying to learn to work together - etc.

In short; inconsistency turned into consistent efforts.


Point differential per game, added up



Maybe my favourite chart. I took all our games, and added the point differences together. (-4 + -32 + 10 +11 etc)

So this charts how many points we've scored more than our opponents. What I love about this chart is how it so clearly shows that, even earlier in the season, we started becoming WAY better than our record reflects. We were still losing games, but already our point differential was slipping into the positive - even when the end of games didn't always go our way.

Satistically, we've been doing GREAT since, and here's the shocker: about 20 games into the season.

Funny hey. Remember that topic? 20 games?




Alright. Conclusions in this post are obviously all my own, call me a Debbie Upper if you want.

Stay awesome folks, I love ya.

Let's go Celtics!



_{* Obi-Wan season 1 coming up soon, am hyped!}

[Silas]

Welcome back.  I missed you.

[tenn_smoothie]

Does this indicate that Ime is an effective coach after all ? I still have my doubts, but there are some hopeful signs.

[Kiorrik]

Does this indicate that Ime is an effective coach after all ? I still have my doubts, but there are some hopeful signs.

Put it this way;

What do you want out of a coach?

What do you think a coach can affect?

How do you think the Celtics rate in those areas, statistically?

[Vermont Green]

Cool, I love graphs.  It is interesting that the first and third graphs have pretty much the same shape.  Both show a switch flipping right around 2/3 of the way through the season.  The team was not playing well for the first 50 or whatever games.  You have to hold the coach accountable for that.  Now they are playing great, have to credit the coach for that as well.

The middle graph to me isn't as clear.  I think one thing it is illustrating is that at the beginning of the season, we lost a lot of close games.  Lately, we are winning by larger margins.  The point differential curve shows that as well.

Anyway, great stuff!

[Kiorrik]

Cool, I love graphs.  It is interesting that the first and third graphs have pretty much the same shape.  Both show a switch flipping right around 2/3 of the way through the season.  The team was not playing well for the first 50 or whatever games.  You have to hold the coach accountable for that.  Now they are playing great, have to credit the coach for that as well.

The middle graph to me isn't as clear.  I think one thing it is illustrating is that at the beginning of the season, we lost a lot of close games.  Lately, we are winning by larger margins.  The point differential curve shows that as well.

Anyway, great stuff!

Second chart shows a super mixed bag in the early season I love it because it shows we got our ish together a bit before we went up in the standings.

I think overall, these charts shows 3 different phases.

1. First 20 games - a team struggling to understand everything the coach is trying to accomplish, due to a lot of factors (health/new systems/new coach)

2. Games 21-50 - Team starts to "get it", but still falls back into their old habits here and there.

3. Games 51-69 - Nice. Managed to replace bad habits and are now consistently performing.

There's still some gaps obviously, and you can expect "new guys" to take between 30-40 games to be performing to the best of their abilities as well.

On that note:
One conclusion we could draw is that - shock horror - it takes humans a fair amount of time to get acclimatised to new things.

A lot was new at the start of the season. We also had a lot of bad habits to get rid of together as a team. And again, health played into "how long it took us" as well. You want everyone, playing together. Remember how it took us ages to get a bunch of games with our starting 5? Yeah, that doesn't help in adjusting.

Meanwhile, we're already judging our new guys after they've played, what, 15 games? Not even?

Give, humans, time.

They will learn, get better, be more comfortable and perform better.

[Cman]

Nice work. Always fun to look at graphs!

[Vermont Green]

I agree regarding how this relates to coaching and implementation of the new coaching schemes.  To judge a coach, I mostly just watch the game and decide whether the team plays like they are well coached or not.  Pretty subjective.

For the first 50'ish games, the Celtics did not look like a well coached team.  Now they do.  It isn't necessarily just about wins and losses but of course it is also hard to separate that out.

Based on what we have seen the last 25 or so games, I feel a whole lot better about Udoka as a coach.  It is always hard to know what the coach may be doing right or wrong but he has the team playing well right now so that is something.

I would not have expected it to take 2/3 of a season to get the team on track.  Maybe that is just how long it takes.

[Kiorrik]

I agree regarding how this relates to coaching and implementation of the new coaching schemes.  To judge a coach, I mostly just watch the game and decide whether the team plays like they are well coached or not.  Pretty subjective.

For the first 50'ish games, the Celtics did not look like a well coached team.  Now they do.  It isn't necessarily just about wins and losses but of course it is also hard to separate that out.

Based on what we have seen the last 25 or so games, I feel a whole lot better about Udoka as a coach.  It is always hard to know what the coach may be doing right or wrong but he has the team playing well right now so that is something.

I would not have expected it to take 2/3 of a season to get the team on track.  Maybe that is just how long it takes.

Only if you look at the win/loss chart in total does it look like we took 2/3rds of the season.

I think we started understanding things after 20 games. That's when we were above .500.

Part of the latter half is due to ease of schedule. Other part is due to getting still more consistent at playing well.

[Hoopvortex]

Does this indicate that Ime is an effective coach after all ? I still have my doubts, but there are some hopeful signs.

No, it doesn't.  Wins and losses result from a lot of factors, so they are an unreliable measure of a coach's effectiveness. In the case of this year's Celtics, the games missed to injury, and the epic shooting slumps of the team's top scorers are more plausible explanations for the mediocre beginning.

The indications of how good a coach Udoka is were clear by December; the team defensive numbers climbed steadily and the team was already top-10 by then. As past coaching luminaries like Chuck Daly and Pete Carrill have said, the real place to see how effective a coach is is in the team's defense. It's the part that requires sacrifice, teamwork, and buy-in. It's where your scorers commit themselves not just to their stardom but to winning. It's the part that most fans don't see, the part that doesn't get on ESPN.

[Hoopvortex]

I would not have expected it to take 2/3 of a season to get the team on track.  Maybe that is just how long it takes.

As Brad Stevens is fond of saying, "Every season is its own entity."

[footey]

Hello there! *

Just felt like sharing some charts

These are the only charts I've made - I'm not hiding charts that show different trends. I just looked at 3 separate stats I was curious about

Disclaimer: I didn't put any detail into the horizontal axes because I'm lazy.

Let's start off simple. This was the second chart I made, but I find it the most fun to look at, and a good primer




How many games we're over/under .500



This shows very clearly how our season progressed from a win/loss perspective. And how we definitely had a lil boom, of late.




Points scored FOR vs points scored AGAINST



This is an odd one. Red areas are for losses, green for wins. Probably should've been a different chart type, but whatever, I'm just doing this quick and dirty.

How to read this one: see how there's some spikes, but generally speaking, the first half of the chart is super erratic, and the second half is more a bunch of bigger fields.

This shows our team has been whimsical / inconsistent. Overall, we've been struggling to put the new system together. Be that due to injuries, covid, a new coach, a new system, trades, guys trying to learn to work together - etc.

In short; inconsistency turned into consistent efforts.


Point differential per game, added up



Maybe my favourite chart. I took all our games, and added the point differences together. (-4 + -32 + 10 +11 etc)

So this charts how many points we've scored more than our opponents. What I love about this chart is how it so clearly shows that, even earlier in the season, we started becoming WAY better than our record reflects. We were still losing games, but already our point differential was slipping into the positive - even when the end of games didn't always go our way.

Satistically, we've been doing GREAT since, and here's the shocker: about 20 games into the season.

Funny hey. Remember that topic? 20 games?




Alright. Conclusions in this post are obviously all my own, call me a Debbie Upper if you want.

Stay awesome folks, I love ya.

Let's go Celtics!



_{* Obi-Wan season 1 coming up soon, am hyped!}

Picture worth a thousand words.  TP for spending the time to put this together. 

[greg683x]

You can see just about when I cancelled league pass bc I was just over watching this team play boring inconsistent basketball, now I’m scared to reactivate it bc I’m afraid I’ll ruin it

[Kiorrik]

You can see just about when I cancelled league pass bc I was just over watching this team play boring inconsistent basketball, now I’m scared to reactivate it bc I’m afraid I’ll ruin it

Whilst at times the losses were deflating, there were definitely heaps of positives during those games as well.

Honestly, during games, I find it best to just sit, watch and enjoy some basketball. Try to learn about the opposing team, the matchups, see what's working and what isn't. That way, even with a loss, you'll have watched some NBA basketball.

Also, I stopped being online during games a bit more frequent. Lotta people only talkin' when things go bad. And that just has a compounding effect on your enjoyment of the game, I promise you that much.

[blink]

Hello there! *

Just felt like sharing some charts

These are the only charts I've made - I'm not hiding charts that show different trends. I just looked at 3 separate stats I was curious about

Disclaimer: I didn't put any detail into the horizontal axes because I'm lazy.

Let's start off simple. This was the second chart I made, but I find it the most fun to look at, and a good primer




How many games we're over/under .500



This shows very clearly how our season progressed from a win/loss perspective. And how we definitely had a lil boom, of late.




Points scored FOR vs points scored AGAINST



This is an odd one. Red areas are for losses, green for wins. Probably should've been a different chart type, but whatever, I'm just doing this quick and dirty.

How to read this one: see how there's some spikes, but generally speaking, the first half of the chart is super erratic, and the second half is more a bunch of bigger fields.

This shows our team has been whimsical / inconsistent. Overall, we've been struggling to put the new system together. Be that due to injuries, covid, a new coach, a new system, trades, guys trying to learn to work together - etc.

In short; inconsistency turned into consistent efforts.


Point differential per game, added up



Maybe my favourite chart. I took all our games, and added the point differences together. (-4 + -32 + 10 +11 etc)

So this charts how many points we've scored more than our opponents. What I love about this chart is how it so clearly shows that, even earlier in the season, we started becoming WAY better than our record reflects. We were still losing games, but already our point differential was slipping into the positive - even when the end of games didn't always go our way.

Satistically, we've been doing GREAT since, and here's the shocker: about 20 games into the season.

Funny hey. Remember that topic? 20 games?




Alright. Conclusions in this post are obviously all my own, call me a Debbie Upper if you want.

Stay awesome folks, I love ya.

Let's go Celtics!



_{* Obi-Wan season 1 coming up soon, am hyped!}

great post!!!!  TP!