C’s Trade Deadline Move(s)

[Wretch]

Can someone explain the rationale for dumping Schroeder for not much or a draft pick?

I don't particularly like Schroeder on this team, but he is plus value.

To me it seems: let him play out the year, maybe we get hot and go on a 10 game run and get into the top 4 (we are currently 4 games out of 4th) - he will be more useful in the playoffs than anything we would get in return no?

EDIT: (Obviously if he is filler in a larger deal, I'm all for it)

Trading Schroder would, likely, move the Cs below the salary cap tax.  It would reset the repeater penalty so they could more easily (affordably) exceed the tax in future years if they are in championship contention (something they are not in this year).  It basically sets them up to have future flexibility and nets them assets that could be used as part of a future trade.

[Roy H.]

Trade Schroder, otherwise do nothing.

[Wretch]

Schroder to Dallas since they have a trade exception big enough to take him in a trade without sending players back for a couple of 2nds.  I think they might be interested in PG off the bench that can keep the offense afloat when Luca sits.

I think a team might want to trade for Juancho so they can waive him next season to get below the cap or the tax.  I think I read somewhere the non-guaranteed contracts don't count as salary in trades so only his guaranteed salary this year can be used for salary in trade.  Someone like NO may want to get off the last year of Hayes rookie contract, who is out of favor in NO and not really playing last I looked.  Then cut Junacho next year and cut $16m from their cap figure between the 2 salaries. That would get them below the cap next year (if I am reading Sportrac correctly).

[Jvalin]

I hope they use their TPE to bring in either Thaddeus Young or Larry Nance Jr.

As things stand tight now, the C's are $5,718,281 over the tax line. I don't expect us to use the TPE prior to the trade deadline. Not a significant part of it anyway.

My #1 target would be Ben Simmons. That said, I doubt the Sixers want to deal with us. My #2 target would be Christian Wood. I reckon he's a realistic target.

Trade #1


The "Base Year Compensation" rule would come into effect. It would have to be a 3-way with OKC absorbing Juancho's salary.

Trade #2


According to rumors, Joe Ingles is ''a name to watch at the trade deadline''.

PG: Smart - Schroder - Pritchard
SG: Brown - Romeo
SF: Ingles - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Grant
C: Wood - Horford - Freedom

Fill the open roster spots via the buyout market. Btw, we already got an open spot cause we waived Jabari.

[CFAN38]

With Jalen Brunson becoming an UFA this season, he’s going to be looking for a multi year offer, lead PG duties, and starting role. Dallas won’t promise him the primary ball handler role nor starting PG position.

This kid has won 2 NCAA titles, was still drafted in the 2nd round, and is still coming off the bench despite playing well; he must have a boulder-sized chip on his shoulder.

Brunson is 25, can direct an offense, protects the ball, gets into the paint with ease, great shooter inside the arch, and can play well on/off ball. He’s a lefty giving off serious Mike Conley vibes.

I don’t know much about his defense, but if it checks out, Brad should gauge interest and offer him what he wants. Dallas might prefer to keep him until the off-season, but they will trade him if the offer’s right.

Agree, Brunson could be a nice option moving forward

[Who]

I just think there is a complacency here in our front office's thinking. That (1) Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum are young (2) that we have all the time in the world with these guys, that they will be here for the next 7-10 years (3) that we must be patient while we develop them.

I just feel like the urgency isn't there. The need for this team to be competing for titles.

There is too much patience. Too much contentedness with the slow gradual process of improvement.

[Wretch]

Trade #2


According to rumors, Joe Ingles is ''a name to watch at the trade deadline''.

PG: Smart - Schroder - Pritchard
SG: Brown - Romeo
SF: Ingles - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Grant
C: Wood - Horford - Freedom - Bruno

Fill the open roster spots via the buyout market. Btw, we already got an open spot cause we waived Jabari.

I don't buy the Ingles rumor from the Cs perspective they are not in a a win now mode and Ingles on an expiring is a win now move.  Richardson has value beyond this season on a reasonable contract and I think the C's are looking to be contenders in future years.  This year has been kind of a roster reset year recovering from the TT, and KW signings.

[Who]

With Jalen Brunson becoming an UFA this season, he’s going to be looking for a multi year offer, lead PG duties, and starting role. Dallas won’t promise him the primary ball handler role nor starting PG position.

This kid has won 2 NCAA titles, was still drafted in the 2nd round, and is still coming off the bench despite playing well; he must have a boulder-sized chip on his shoulder.

Brunson is 25, can direct an offense, protects the ball, gets into the paint with ease, great shooter inside the arch, and can play well on/off ball. He’s a lefty giving off serious Mike Conley vibes.

I don’t know much about his defense, but if it checks out, Brad should gauge interest and offer him what he wants. Dallas might prefer to keep him until the off-season, but they will trade him if the offer’s right.

I like this idea.  I'm not sure why Dallas doesn't want to hand him the keys, considering who they have on their roster.  Obviously, elite shooting would look great next to Doncic, but Brunson is a player.

I was under the impression that Dallas loves Brunson and that he was close to untouchable in the past during trade talks. They overpaid Tim Hardaway Jr last summer. I expect them to do the same with Brunson. Pay whatever they need to in order to keep him.

Brunson giving strong competition to (the underperforming) Porzingis as Dallas 2nd best player. On a Mavs team with very little talent outside of Doncic, I can't imagine Dallas letting Brunson walk this summer or trading him now without getting a king's ransom in return.

I reckon they'd need an All-Star talent coming back in order to move Brunson.

[Jvalin]

Trade #2


According to rumors, Joe Ingles is ''a name to watch at the trade deadline''.

PG: Smart - Schroder - Pritchard
SG: Brown - Romeo
SF: Ingles - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Grant
C: Wood - Horford - Freedom - Bruno

Fill the open roster spots via the buyout market. Btw, we already got an open spot cause we waived Jabari.

I don't buy the Ingles rumor from the Cs perspective they are not in a a win now mode and Ingles on an expiring is a win now move.  Richardson has value beyond this season on a reasonable contract and I think the C's are looking to be contenders in future years.  This year has been kind of a roster reset year recovering from the TT, and KW signings.

The way I see it, we desperately need better ball movement. At the same time, we could have a use for a shooter. Ingles ticks all the boxes. Both JRich and Ingles are role players. It's not like we'd be sacrificing future/valuable assets for Ingles.

The C's have 2 young All-Stars in Tatum and Brown. Most teams would envy our position. We have the talent to make a deep playoff run. What we need is to address our weaknesses. With a bit of luck, anything is possible come playoff time. I mean, we were 1 home win away from the NBA Finals in 2018. We reached the ECF once again in 2020.

If we end up being buyers at the trade deadline, I'd want us to hire an experienced, offensive-minded assistant for Ime. If we are sellers, Ime is the perfect tank commander.

[Surferdad]

Trade Schroder, otherwise do nothing.

Yeah, that's my thinking too.  The 'Schroder rental' is proving to have value in itself, for example, he's starting tonight since Smart has a bruise and PP is not back yet.  The only other alternative to Schroder at PG would be Romeo (yikes).  So I've reached the conclusion that C's won't even make a small trade.

[wdleehi]

Trade Schroder, otherwise do nothing.

Yeah, that's my thinking too.  The 'Schroder rental' is proving to have value in itself, for example, he's starting tonight since Smart has a bruise and PP is not back yet.  The only other alternative to Schroder at PG would be Romeo (yikes).  So I've reached the conclusion that C's won't even make a small trade.

I would like them to move Juancho and Fernando (along with a 2nd or two) to see if there are pieces that either fit better or may have more worth in the future. 



Honestly, outside of Tatum, Brown, Rob and Smart; I would be fine with any move that fits better with that group.   (like to keep Grant and Prichard) 


Smart and Rob can be part of a bigger move that brings back a better player that fits better. 

[LilRip]

Can someone explain the rationale for dumping Schroeder for not much or a draft pick?

I don't particularly like Schroeder on this team, but he is plus value.

To me it seems: let him play out the year, maybe we get hot and go on a 10 game run and get into the top 4 (we are currently 4 games out of 4th) - he will be more useful in the playoffs than anything we would get in return no?

EDIT: (Obviously if he is filler in a larger deal, I'm all for it)

Schroder is quite a talent. This is true. And he can definitely help our team (or another team). The reason many want to dump him is because when this year is up, the C’s cannot keep him.

Schroder signed here for way below his market value once the market dried up last offseason. Because we don’t have his “bird rights”, we can’t sign him or extend him like we can other players who have been here a while or who have been traded here.

Schroder is unlikely to sign for below his market value again next offseason. Given that, I would rather the C’s get something with more long term value (like a late 1st) rather than end up just letting Schroder walk.

[moiso]

With Jalen Brunson becoming an UFA this season, he’s going to be looking for a multi year offer, lead PG duties, and starting role. Dallas won’t promise him the primary ball handler role nor starting PG position.

This kid has won 2 NCAA titles, was still drafted in the 2nd round, and is still coming off the bench despite playing well; he must have a boulder-sized chip on his shoulder.

Brunson is 25, can direct an offense, protects the ball, gets into the paint with ease, great shooter inside the arch, and can play well on/off ball. He’s a lefty giving off serious Mike Conley vibes.

I don’t know much about his defense, but if it checks out, Brad should gauge interest and offer him what he wants. Dallas might prefer to keep him until the off-season, but they will trade him if the offer’s right.

I like this idea.  I'm not sure why Dallas doesn't want to hand him the keys, considering who they have on their roster.  Obviously, elite shooting would look great next to Doncic, but Brunson is a player.

I was under the impression that Dallas loves Brunson and that he was close to untouchable in the past during trade talks. They overpaid Tim Hardaway Jr last summer. I expect them to do the same with Brunson. Pay whatever they need to in order to keep him.

Brunson giving strong competition to (the underperforming) Porzingis as Dallas 2nd best player. On a Mavs team with very little talent outside of Doncic, I can't imagine Dallas letting Brunson walk this summer or trading him now without getting a king's ransom in return.

I reckon they'd need an All-Star talent coming back in order to move Brunson.

I think Brunson is the Mavs second best player because you never know what you'll get with Porzingas.  But Brunson is always in and out of the starting lineup so I'm not sure if Dallas likes him as much as we do.

[Celtic]

Horford, Schroder and 3 1sts for Lillard is my dream scenario.

[hwangjini_1]

i am not sure lillard is all that good a fit with the celtics. lillard is 31 years old, a weak defender, and needs the ball to be in his hands since his overwhelming value is scoring a lot.

is having a 24 pga scorer with poor defense that helpful? is he even as good as kyrie?

i would prefer a player who can set up others for scoring, play decent defense, and still score credibly.