Bradley Beal and Covid

[NHHillbilly]

Why don't the protocols take into account natural immunity, duh (to the protocols).
Not all vaccines work the same, some are better, some are worse.
Even though it took longer to make, the Novavax protein subunit vaccine looks like it might work better than other vaccines against the Omicron Variant. This is early data, but since Germany ordered 4 million doses, we will know after they are administered.
The Regeneron produced antibodies that can be administered in the first week of the disease also seem to work as well or better than the vaccines when used early on. So vaccines are not the only defense against severe side effects.
Fauci, Pfizer, and most of the rest are just selling vaccines, not protecting health.

[Neurotic Guy]

Why don't the protocols take into account natural immunity, duh (to the protocols).
Not all vaccines work the same, some are better, some are worse.
Even though it took longer to make, the Novavax protein subunit vaccine looks like it might work better than other vaccines against the Omicron Variant. This is early data, but since Germany ordered 4 million doses, we will know after they are administered.
The Regeneron produced antibodies that can be administered in the first week of the disease also seem to work as well or better than the vaccines when used early on. So vaccines are not the only defense against severe side effects.
Fauci, Pfizer, and most of the rest are just selling vaccines, not protecting health.

I think the open-minded approach is to consider new data as it becomes available and to make better decisions as time and variants move on.  To suggest that the vaccines used till now have not provided health protection is data-blindness.   As we discover the best protection from Omicron - which is discovery in process - there will likely be shifts in recommended prevention/treatment.  Natural immunity from infection is going to play a huge role (I think) moving forward since Omicron seems to be both substantially more contagious and less severe.  That could be great news for widespread immunity.  The one caution that leads me to continue to be concerned about over-reliance on natural immunity is that Omicron may still produce enough serious illness or death that we’d still want to be acting preventatively.  Higher rates of infection even with lower incidence of severity may still produce hospital overcrowding and unnecessary long-term impact and death. 

[celts10]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

[hpantazo]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

No, it's because tons of data clearly shows that natural immunity provides virtually no protection from delta and omicron. Keep an open mind and believe in facts not in politically biased opinions. Thankfully our government health professional leaders follow the data regardless of where it leads.

[Celtics2021]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

[Kiorrik]

I can not believe the amount of misinformation out there, nor how willing people are too believe in them. People just looking for any excuse not to get a jab. Childish cowardice. Trust is gone. It's sad.

[ManchesterCelticsFan]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/parade.com/1298120/marilynvossavant/why-do-americans-decline-vaccination/amp/


   
"Why Do So Many People Refuse Vaccination?"
Marilyn vos Savant Marilyn vos Savant
 

"Do you have any insight into why so many Americans decline vaccination? I don’t believe the reason is political. The people are too diverse."

—Gina Romano, San Jose, California


"One reason may be underestimated: In the past, real-life injections were never shown on TV or in print. Now the sight of needles piercing arms is everywhere. This is sure to increase the fear of needles suffered by up to 25 percent of the population. The fear is often intense: Some people feel anxious; others become nauseated, have difficulty breathing or faint. To avoid confronting this fear, they may find all sorts of reasons to reject vaccination. This is different from refusing to wear a mask, a separate subject."

[Neurotic Guy]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/parade.com/1298120/marilynvossavant/why-do-americans-decline-vaccination/amp/


   
"Why Do So Many People Refuse Vaccination?"
Marilyn vos Savant Marilyn vos Savant
 

"Do you have any insight into why so many Americans decline vaccination? I don’t believe the reason is political. The people are too diverse."

—Gina Romano, San Jose, California


"One reason may be underestimated: In the past, real-life injections were never shown on TV or in print. Now the sight of needles piercing arms is everywhere. This is sure to increase the fear of needles suffered by up to 25 percent of the population. The fear is often intense: Some people feel anxious; others become nauseated, have difficulty breathing or faint. To avoid confronting this fear, they may find all sorts of reasons to reject vaccination. This is different from refusing to wear a mask, a separate subject."

Funny - this reminded me that my dad, a WW2 veteran and a pretty tough individual, had a fear of needles. He’d faint at the sight. 

[ChillyWilly]

Gulf war vet. Never voted in my life, never plan on it. I couldn't name 3 politicians who currently hold office.

I quit a mid 6 figure career on the spot for requiring a blood test. I don't care if every last person on this planet hates me for it.

Listening to some of you over educated blow hards reminds me why I frequent this place less and less.

[86MaxwellSmart]

I can not believe the amount of misinformation out there, nor how willing people are too believe in them. People just looking for any excuse not to get a jab. Childish cowardice. Trust is gone. It's sad.

and I can't believe how many people still trust CNN and all MSM after they've been proven to be liars over and over....it's not childish cowardice. Do your own research and use critical thinking.

[gift]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

Wait, is his natural immunity decreasing his risk of hospitalization or death? Or is that only the goalpost for the vaccines now and natural immunity requires 100% protection from reinfection?

[MattyIce]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

assuming all our individual, the nba players, and beal's tests are and were accurate, assuming his present test is accurate, his natural immunity didnt work and neither did the vaccines, they moved the goalposts, we were told they prevent catching covid.  Lots of players are p---ed

[Celtics2021]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

Wait, is his natural immunity decreasing his risk of hospitalization or death? Or is that only the goalpost for the vaccines now and natural immunity requires 100% protection from reinfection?

What are you talking about?  People were saying that Beal didn’t need to be in protocols because he has “natural immunity.”  The NBA rule is that if you test positive, your win protocols, vaccine, prior infection history, or both.  There’s no moved goalpost.

[gift]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

assuming all our individual, the nba players, and beal's tests are and were accurate, assuming his present test is accurate, his natural immunity didnt work and neither did the vaccines, they moved the goalposts, we were told they prevent catching covid.  Lots of players are p---ed

Which is funny when people talk about misinformation. The initial pitch about vaccines was literally misinformation.

[Celtics2021]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

assuming all our individual, the nba players, and beal's tests are and were accurate, assuming his present test is accurate, his natural immunity didnt work and neither did the vaccines, they moved the goalposts, we were told they prevent catching covid.  Lots of players are p---ed

I’d say the Omicron variant moved the goalposts, personally, by evading both vaccines and “natural” immunity.