Joe Harris available?

[radiohead]

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-trade-rumors/nba-rumors-brooklyn-nets-have-had-trade-conversations-about-joe-harris

It’s not the most reliable website but if Joe Harris is available, should the Cs join the bidding? I think he’d fit in very well with the Jays. But who could we offer?

[Vermont Green]

Joe Harris has been a steady 3PT shooter for several years but doesn't do much else.  He is on a fairly rich contract (abut $18M per through 2023-24).  That said, he is a valuable player for a given role.  I don't understand why the Nets would want to trade him in the first place.  He is a really good fit on that team.

As to the Celtics potential interest, sure but he probably comes off the bench for us unless we go back to our 1-big line up.  I think if we are going to spend close to $20M on a player, it should be a big, not a 3&D guy who only gives you average at best D.  The main problem is how much we would need to give up.  Unfortunately, he does not quite fit into the Fournier TPE (misses by about $200K).  So we have to match salary.  The deal would probably have to include Horford which doesn't seem to make much sense for either team.

[slamtheking]

Joe Harris has been a steady 3PT shooter for several years but doesn't do much else.  He is on a fairly rich contract (abut $18M per through 2023-24).  That said, he is a valuable player for a given role.  I don't understand why the Nets would want to trade him in the first place.  He is a really good fit on that team.

As to the Celtics potential interest, sure but he probably comes off the bench for us unless we go back to our 1-big line up.  I think if we are going to spend close to $20M on a player, it should be a big, not a 3&D guy who only gives you average at best D.  The main problem is how much we would need to give up.  Unfortunately, he does not quite fit into the Fournier TPE (misses by about $200K).  So we have to match salary.  The deal would probably have to include Horford which doesn't seem to make much sense for either team.

fair assessment.  Harris' shooting would be a big help here but that's a lot of money for a guy that doesn't add much else.  could have kept Fournier for that money without having to ship anyone out.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Does not move the needle.

[Moranis]

If the trade was something like Smart for Harris, I'd probably do it.  Probably doesn't move the needle much, but then I wouldn't have to deal with Smart's terrible shot selection, so it would be a better viewing experience for me. 

[footey]

does he fit into our Fournier trade exception?

[nickagneta]

I know it seems like Harris wouldn't move the needle, but look at how much Grant Williams three point shooting meant to the win versus Milwaukee the other night. If the Jays play complementary basketball and have a dead eye three point shooter they can dish to, it makes all the difference in the world to the efficacy and overall performance on offense. Having that guy to rely on opens up the floor so much and gets everyone more open looks and Lanes to drive into.

If the trade was Smart and Nesmith for Harris, I believe having two guys like Grant and Harris would make a world of difference offensively for this team. Of course, it would force Schröder into a role he might not like, which is ball distribution PG and not scoring PG, but if he can do that, boy would I like to see that offense

Schröder/Brown/Harris/Tatum/Timelord

With Al, Grant, Romeo, Richardson to round out the rotation. Perhaps Brad grabs a good backup PG in another trade.

I don't think those moves move the team into top 4 in the league contention quality, but I think it would move them significantly up the ladder in comparison to where they are now.

[johnnygreen]

I know it seems like Harris wouldn't move the needle, but look at how much Grant Williams three point shooting meant to the win versus Milwaukee the other night. If the Jays play complementary basketball and have a dead eye three point shooter they can dish to, it makes all the difference in the world to the efficacy and overall performance on offense. Having that guy to rely on opens up the floor so much and gets everyone more open looks and Lanes to drive into.

If the trade was Smart and Nesmith for Harris, I believe having two guys like Grant and Harris would make a world of difference offensively for this team. Of course, it would force Schröder into a role he might not like, which is ball distribution PG and not scoring PG, but if he can do that, boy would I like to see that offense

Schröder/Brown/Harris/Tatum/Timelord

With Al, Grant, Romeo, Richardson to round out the rotation. Perhaps Brad grabs a good backup PG in another trade.

I don't think those moves move the team into top 4 in the league contention quality, but I think it would move them significantly up the ladder in comparison to where they are now.

I do agree, Harris would create better spacing, especially since a defender can't leave him open. The only part of your scenario I don't like is including Nesmith. I think that kid is going to be really good, and don't understand why he is in Udoka's dog house.

[nickagneta]

I know it seems like Harris wouldn't move the needle, but look at how much Grant Williams three point shooting meant to the win versus Milwaukee the other night. If the Jays play complementary basketball and have a dead eye three point shooter they can dish to, it makes all the difference in the world to the efficacy and overall performance on offense. Having that guy to rely on opens up the floor so much and gets everyone more open looks and Lanes to drive into.

If the trade was Smart and Nesmith for Harris, I believe having two guys like Grant and Harris would make a world of difference offensively for this team. Of course, it would force Schröder into a role he might not like, which is ball distribution PG and not scoring PG, but if he can do that, boy would I like to see that offense

Schröder/Brown/Harris/Tatum/Timelord

With Al, Grant, Romeo, Richardson to round out the rotation. Perhaps Brad grabs a good backup PG in another trade.

I don't think those moves move the team into top 4 in the league contention quality, but I think it would move them significantly up the ladder in comparison to where they are now.

I do agree, Harris would create better spacing, especially since a defender can't leave him open. The only part of your scenario I don't like is including Nesmith. I think that kid is going to be really good, and don't understand why he is in Udoka's dog house.

It was more salary filler than anything else as I thought Harris made about $20 million but I now see he only makes $17. So one on one Smart for Harris or if another small salary is needed, use Parker, I guess.

[johnnygreen]

I know it seems like Harris wouldn't move the needle, but look at how much Grant Williams three point shooting meant to the win versus Milwaukee the other night. If the Jays play complementary basketball and have a dead eye three point shooter they can dish to, it makes all the difference in the world to the efficacy and overall performance on offense. Having that guy to rely on opens up the floor so much and gets everyone more open looks and Lanes to drive into.

If the trade was Smart and Nesmith for Harris, I believe having two guys like Grant and Harris would make a world of difference offensively for this team. Of course, it would force Schröder into a role he might not like, which is ball distribution PG and not scoring PG, but if he can do that, boy would I like to see that offense

Schröder/Brown/Harris/Tatum/Timelord

With Al, Grant, Romeo, Richardson to round out the rotation. Perhaps Brad grabs a good backup PG in another trade.

I don't think those moves move the team into top 4 in the league contention quality, but I think it would move them significantly up the ladder in comparison to where they are now.

I do agree, Harris would create better spacing, especially since a defender can't leave him open. The only part of your scenario I don't like is including Nesmith. I think that kid is going to be really good, and don't understand why he is in Udoka's dog house.

It was more salary filler than anything else as I thought Harris made about $20 million but I now see he only makes $17. So one on one Smart for Harris or if another small salary is needed, use Parker, I guess.

I understand what you were trying to do. Smart could be the lock down defender, and Nesmith the eventual (possible) replacement for Harris.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Harris generally does a good job overall on offense. He's not terrible on defense either (but not good).

He moves without the ball, keeps the defense on their toes, and keeps the ball moving. I'd love Joe Harris on this team, but I find it very unlikely that Nets will trade a key rotation piece to a rival in their conference while they themselves are championship hunting.

[Goldstar88]

Pass. $18M/year for a one dimensional player coming off the bench is too much, IMO.

[Moranis]

Harris generally does a good job overall on offense. He's not terrible on defense either (but not good).

He moves without the ball, keeps the defense on their toes, and keeps the ball moving. I'd love Joe Harris on this team, but I find it very unlikely that Nets will trade a key rotation piece to a rival in their conference while they themselves are championship hunting.

Smart makes more sense for their current roster though.  So if the trade is Smart for Harris basically straight up, I do think it makes sense for both teams on some level.  And Boston isn't really a rival to the Nets as currently constructed.  If the Nets thought Smart gave them a better chance to win a title over the season or two, I think they'd do that as I don't think they'd get better than that for Harris.  Trade doesn't do a lot for the C's, but for the reason nick laid out, I do like what Harris could bring.  The team needs shooting and Harris is one of the best (if not the best) shooters in the game (over the last 4 years he is every bit as good from 3 as Curry). 

[86MaxwellSmart]

Put him in one corner and Hauser in the other, let Tatum and Brown drive down the lane.

[sgrogan]

Harris generally does a good job overall on offense. He's not terrible on defense either (but not good).

He moves without the ball, keeps the defense on their toes, and keeps the ball moving. I'd love Joe Harris on this team, but I find it very unlikely that Nets will trade a key rotation piece to a rival in their conference while they themselves are championship hunting.

Smart makes more sense for their current roster though.  So if the trade is Smart for Harris basically straight up, I do think it makes sense for both teams on some level.  And Boston isn't really a rival to the Nets as currently constructed.  If the Nets thought Smart gave them a better chance to win a title over the season or two, I think they'd do that as I don't think they'd get better than that for Harris.  Trade doesn't do a lot for the C's, but for the reason nick laid out, I do like what Harris could bring.  The team needs shooting and Harris is one of the best (if not the best) shooters in the game (over the last 4 years he is every bit as good from 3 as Curry).

Can we count on this C's team to get Harris "his" shots?
According to bbref 100% of his 3's are assisted, this year and last, 97% for his career.
That's the definition of catch and shoot.

I know he moves without the ball to put himself in position, but can the C's capitalize, down one more "passer" in Smart?