If JT & JB Are 1 & 2, How Can We Realistically Get a Big 3 With JT/JB/X?

[GreenlyGreeny]

So let’s assume JT and JB are the alpha and the beta—how can we realistically obtain that number three guy we can pair with JT/JB so we can have a Big 3 again? And who could it be?

Getting real sick of .500…

[Jvalin]

Ben Simmons: Highly doubt Philly wants to trade with us, but he's definitely available.

Bradley Beal: This is assuming he informs the Wizards he plans to walk in 2022 or he demands a trade. Even then, we'll probably get outbid unless he forces his way to the C's to team up with Tatum. Fwiw, I don't like the fit next to the Jays.

Pascal Siakam: To a large extent, him and Scottie Barnes cancel each other out on offense. Chances are he's available for the right price. I think we have the assets to get the job done.

Domantas Sabonis: Wouldn't want us to go after him. He's at his best when being the focal point on offense. We can't use him as our focal point cause we already got Tatum. He ain't suited to play off the ball cause he's a below average shooter. He ain't a switchable defender either. I reckon he'd be a bad fit in our defensive system. Don't get me wrong, he's a talented player. I just don't like the fit on the Celtics.

Not sure whether they qualify for this exercise, but I'd love us to go after Christian Wood or/and Jerami Grant. Imo, Wood is good enough to be the 3rd option in a championship team. To a lesser extent, the same goes for Jerami.

[SparzWizard]

We also need a solid bench. A James Posey, Leon Powe, and Eddie House type bench guys.

[GreenlyGreeny]

We also need a solid bench. A James Posey, Leon Powe, and Eddie House type bench guys.

Am actually far more optimistic about that part. Got a feeling we got a couple guys like that right now within the group of Timelord, GWill, Nesmith, Pritchard, and maybe Langford.

It’s just I do not see many paths to a Big 3 with JKJB that makes sense (agree that Beal may not make sense with JT/JB), so I’m hopeful someone can show us the way…

[pokeKingCurtis]

Talent will work itself out. Get Beal and deal with the fit later.

Especially since all 3 of Jaylen, Beal and Tatum can all shoot and are all wings. The fit is actually amazing.

Donovan Mitchell is another friend of Tatum/Brown I think, though not sure of his contract status, I think probably impossible despite the friendship there.

That's why you JKJB - you want more players of JB or better caliber on your team, not fewer - getting 1 is hard, having 2 is awesome. "Just" need a third.

And in today's NBA, James Harden is joining Durant and all that...them being friendly with Mitchell/Beal doesn't hurt either...

[Csfan1984]

Feel the team needs better shooting around the Jays

Brogdon and Turner for Smart, TL and other pieces.

Norman Powell for Smart.

VanVleet for Smart a 1st and Parker.

Woods for TL and Juancho.


A good spread it out starting five example would be
VanVleet, JB, JT, Grant, Woods

Main Bench
Schro, Josh, Lang, Hordford

Deep Bench
PP, Nesmith, Kanter

[td450]

I think Chicago shows us a good example. They have two high scoring wings. Lonzo Ball isn't an elite level offensive player, but his game is perfectly suited to providing the playmaking and transitional pace that makes Levine and DeRozan so effective.

The problem is that there are very few guys like Ball in the league. Dejounte Murray is averaging 8.5 assists per game, although he's probably getting more expensive by the minute. We don't need a megastar. We need a playmaker who can push the ball in transition.

[todd_days_41]

Ben Simmons: Highly doubt Philly wants to trade with us, but he's definitely available.

Bradley Beal: This is assuming he informs the Wizards he plans to walk in 2022 or he demands a trade. Even then, we'll probably get outbid unless he forces his way to the C's to team up with Tatum. Fwiw, I don't like the fit next to the Jays.

Pascal Siakam: To a large extent, him and Scottie Barnes cancel each other out on offense. Chances are he's available for the right price. I think we have the assets to get the job done.

Domantas Sabonis: Wouldn't want us to go after him. He's at his best when being the focal point on offense. We can't use him as our focal point cause we already got Tatum. He ain't suited to play off the ball cause he's a below average shooter. He ain't a switchable defender either. I reckon he'd be a bad fit in our defensive system. Don't get me wrong, he's a talented player. I just don't like the fit on the Celtics.

Not sure whether they qualify for this exercise, but I'd love us to go after Christian Wood or/and Jerami Grant. Imo, Wood is good enough to be the 3rd option in a championship team. To a lesser extent, the same goes for Jerami.

The only ones that make real sense for both teams would be Sabonis (if we ship a king’s ransom) and Wood (if we take Wall or ship a healthy sum, prolly at least 2 picks).

As for Siakum, I got a chuckle out of ur post. Scottie Barnes cancels him out, but Tatum and Brown wouldn’t?

[Moranis]

McCollum

Portland is a mess right now and needs to do something. 

Two trade options

This Summer - Horford, Nesmith, 22 1st, 24 1st (top 4) for McCollum

This Season - Richardson, Hernangomez, Langford, Nesmith, 22 1st for McCollum, Smith

[Atzar]

Adding a third piece wouldn’t be a problem IMHO.  We have enough assets that we could pull one of those three picks + three pick swaps kinda setups like Milwaukee used to get Jrue.

But to be perfectly candid, I’m not convinced we’re even close enough to make a move like that at this point.  At some point these dudes need to show us that it’s worth going for it with them.  Because the last year and a half say that it isn’t.

[Birdman]

Beal not going to leave Washington..Philly not trading Simmons to Boston…so take those 2 names off the list…doubt Houston trading Wood cause he playing great for them…Lillard May be our only bet

[wdleehi]

All it takes is one sometimes all-star wanting to join Tatum and Brown and asking their current team to get it done.   


I am sort of hoping Sabonis does that.   

[Atzar]

Beal not going to leave Washington..Philly not trading Simmons to Boston…so take those 2 names off the list…doubt Houston trading Wood cause he playing great for them…Lillard May be our only bet

How many times do we need to see that movie before we realize that the ending sucks?

Kyrie... ball-dominant score-first PG who struggles to defend.  Kemba... ball-dominant score-first PG who struggles to defend.  Lillard... ball-dominant score-first PG who struggles to defend.  There's a pattern here.  The first two didn't work out for us.  I'd rather not try it a third time. 

Also, Lillard has quietly had a poor season by his standards.  His efficiency is down significantly.  So that's something to keep an eye on as well. 

 

[BMark]

If JT and JB are actually two superstars then the more feasible route is to bring in high level role players to compliment them.  I would also do a little additional by subtraction.

Dejounte Murray would be my preferred choice as a high level compliment.  His salary fits in the Fournier exception and I would offer 22 and 24 FRPs

I was looking at some of the teams that might entertain a trade for Smart, like GSW.  Would GSW consider sending Wiseman here as part of a Smart trade? 

[todd_days_41]

Adding a third piece wouldn’t be a problem IMHO.  We have enough assets that we could pull one of those three picks + three pick swaps kinda setups like Milwaukee used to get Jrue.

But to be perfectly candid, I’m not convinced we’re even close enough to make a move like that at this point.  At some point these dudes need to show us that it’s worth going for it with them.  Because the last year and a half say that it isn’t.

Bingo. is adding one player going to take them from utter mediocrity to championship contender?

I think the following question is still very much out there: should the Cs be building around Tatum and Brown? or should they be using Brown and / or Tatum to build something else?