Idea: Jaylen for Hield and Fox

[Moranis]

Fox needs out of Sacramento.  Guys in year 5 don't typically have their worst seasons since their rookie year without something strange going on.  I think that strange is Sacramento.  Everything about the Kings just blows. 

[indeedproceed]

Fox needs out of Sacramento.  Guys in year 5 don't typically have their worst seasons since their rookie year without something strange going on.  I think that strange is Sacramento.  Everything about the Kings just blows.

There is no part of me that thinks exchanging Jaylen for Fox and Hield could be a bonus.

[KG Living Legend]

Fox needs out of Sacramento.  Guys in year 5 don't typically have their worst seasons since their rookie year without something strange going on.  I think that strange is Sacramento.  Everything about the Kings just blows.

There is no part of me that thinks exchanging Jaylen for Fox and Hield could be a bonus.

 Fox avg 25.2 ppg and 7.2 apg at 23 years old. Last year. For the record Jaylen has never avg 25 ppg. He came close once.

 And that 7.2 apg could be more important than Browns solid rebounding.


 What if Sacramento was crazy for Brown and was willing to throw in Davion Mitchell or Haliburton? Could you still turn down that offer?

Horford
Tatum
Buddy
Smart
Fox

Schroder, Haliburton,  Timelord,  Gwill,

You'd be hard pressed to tell me that team doesn't win more games than our current roster. More dangerous in the playoffs as well.

[nickagneta]

Fox needs out of Sacramento.  Guys in year 5 don't typically have their worst seasons since their rookie year without something strange going on.  I think that strange is Sacramento.  Everything about the Kings just blows.

There is no part of me that thinks exchanging Jaylen for Fox and Hield could be a bonus.

 Fox avg 25.2 ppg and 7.2 apg at 23 years old. Last year. For the record Jaylen has never avg 25 ppg. He came close once.

 And that 7.2 apg could be more important than Browns solid rebounding.

There is also the other side of the ball where Jaylen can play smothering one on one defense against almost anyone. Take a look at the D that JB played against Embiid the last few possessions in the Sixers win. There is no way Fox can do that against SFs nevermind one of the most dominant big men in the game today.  Also, look at the defense Jaylen played against Siakam in the playoff bubble. It was probably one of the biggest reasons the C's win that series. Fox is simply incapable of doing such things. And that's why JB is so much more valuable and so much better a player than Fox.....Because defense matters. Because defensive versatility matters.

[KG Living Legend]

Fox needs out of Sacramento.  Guys in year 5 don't typically have their worst seasons since their rookie year without something strange going on.  I think that strange is Sacramento.  Everything about the Kings just blows.

There is no part of me that thinks exchanging Jaylen for Fox and Hield could be a bonus.

 Fox avg 25.2 ppg and 7.2 apg at 23 years old. Last year. For the record Jaylen has never avg 25 ppg. He came close once.

 And that 7.2 apg could be more important than Browns solid rebounding.

There is also the other side of the ball where Jaylen can play smothering one on one defense against almost anyone. Take a look at the D that JB played against Embiid the last few possessions in the Sixers win. There is no way Fox can do that against SFs nevermind one of the most dominant big men in the game today.  Also, look at the defense Jaylen played against Siakam in the playoff bubble. It was probably one of the biggest reasons the C's win that series. Fox is simply incapable of doing such things. And that's why JB is so much more valuable and so much better a player than Fox.....Because defense matters. Because defensive versatility matters.

 It does, defense certainly matters. For me it's getting to a point with Tatum and Brown that I don't think it's going to work.

 I'm picking sides and I'm choosing Tatum.  I can't put my finger on exactly what it is about Brown.  Something is missing with Jaylen IMO. 

 Tatum has his flaws as well thinking he's the greatest player ever already.  Somethings wrong with the chemistry.  I think either Brown or Smart has to get traded.

 

[knuckleballer]

Fox needs out of Sacramento.  Guys in year 5 don't typically have their worst seasons since their rookie year without something strange going on.  I think that strange is Sacramento.  Everything about the Kings just blows.

There is no part of me that thinks exchanging Jaylen for Fox and Hield could be a bonus.

 Fox avg 25.2 ppg and 7.2 apg at 23 years old. Last year. For the record Jaylen has never avg 25 ppg. He came close once.

 And that 7.2 apg could be more important than Browns solid rebounding.

There is also the other side of the ball where Jaylen can play smothering one on one defense against almost anyone. Take a look at the D that JB played against Embiid the last few possessions in the Sixers win. There is no way Fox can do that against SFs nevermind one of the most dominant big men in the game today.  Also, look at the defense Jaylen played against Siakam in the playoff bubble. It was probably one of the biggest reasons the C's win that series. Fox is simply incapable of doing such things. And that's why JB is so much more valuable and so much better a player than Fox.....Because defense matters. Because defensive versatility matters.

 It does, defense certainly matters. For me it's getting to a point with Tatum and Brown that I don't think it's going to work.

 I'm picking sides and I'm choosing Tatum.  I can't put my finger on exactly what it is about Brown.  Something is missing with Jaylen IMO. 

 Tatum has his flaws as well thinking he's the greatest player ever already.  Somethings wrong with the chemistry.  I think either Brown or Smart has to get traded.

I’m beginning to lean this way as well.  Schroder is gone after this year and there’s really no way to add a top point guard.  Fox might make sense, but I don’t watch enough Kings games to have a strong opinion of him.  The team and Tatum seem to play better without Brown which I don’t think is Brown’s fault.  Tatum just seems to understand or play his role better.  Theoretically trading Brown to bring in a star pg for the future is intriguing. 

[Csfan1984]

Pass.

Brown as an option one is probably scoring 30 a game. Kings would have to add unprotected 1st and swaps rights to even fathom this.

[jambr380]

Fox needs out of Sacramento.  Guys in year 5 don't typically have their worst seasons since their rookie year without something strange going on.  I think that strange is Sacramento.  Everything about the Kings just blows.

There is no part of me that thinks exchanging Jaylen for Fox and Hield could be a bonus.

 Fox avg 25.2 ppg and 7.2 apg at 23 years old. Last year. For the record Jaylen has never avg 25 ppg. He came close once.

 And that 7.2 apg could be more important than Browns solid rebounding.

There is also the other side of the ball where Jaylen can play smothering one on one defense against almost anyone. Take a look at the D that JB played against Embiid the last few possessions in the Sixers win. There is no way Fox can do that against SFs nevermind one of the most dominant big men in the game today.  Also, look at the defense Jaylen played against Siakam in the playoff bubble. It was probably one of the biggest reasons the C's win that series. Fox is simply incapable of doing such things. And that's why JB is so much more valuable and so much better a player than Fox.....Because defense matters. Because defensive versatility matters.

 It does, defense certainly matters. For me it's getting to a point with Tatum and Brown that I don't think it's going to work.

 I'm picking sides and I'm choosing Tatum.  I can't put my finger on exactly what it is about Brown.  Something is missing with Jaylen IMO. 

 Tatum has his flaws as well thinking he's the greatest player ever already.  Somethings wrong with the chemistry.  I think either Brown or Smart has to get traded.

I’m beginning to lean this way as well.  Schroder is gone after this year and there’s really no way to add a top point guard.  Fox might make sense, but I don’t watch enough Kings games to have a strong opinion of him.  The team and Tatum seem to play better without Brown which I don’t think is Brown’s fault.  Tatum just seems to understand or play his role better.  Theoretically trading Brown to bring in a star pg for the future is intriguing.

Couldn't have said what I was going to say any better. I really like Brown and appreciate his game, I just don't love the Tatum/Brown fit as a top 2 duo (perhaps it would be better with Brown as a #3). I just think our team plays better with a high level PG  - and we also get a deadly 3pt shooter in this deal, as well. We still keep Smart and Romeo for defense, so all is not lost on that end of the ball.

People are talking about Fox's supposed drop-off this season, but pretending all is well and fine with Brown. It's not that I don't think Brown will get back to his regular self, but why can't the same be said about Fox? I am sure there are other options available should we decide to trade Brown, but this one isn't all that bad.

[Rosco917]

Yeah, defense does matter... so do games missed.

I think Jaylen is the most talented offensive player on the Celtics, and under the right circumstances on a team that pushes the ball and looks for him more often he'd be devastating. Unfortunately every time he's needed he's injured or playing injured.

I checked, he's not listed in the top 10 most often injured players in the NBA, but he's certainly is in the second tier. And for that reason, before he breaks into the top 10 where Kyrie and KD live, it may be time to let go.

[footey]

Our team desperately needs a floor general point guard who can run the offense. Haven't had one since Rondo.

Don't know if Fox is that guy or not.  He was averaging about 7 assists a game the last few years but has dipped down this season to about 5.5 per.

Fox' added weight seems to have slowed him down just a tad, which is too bad, as his lightening quickness is what separated him from the others.

[todd_days_41]

Nah — I’m all for seeking out a strong PG option if we’re trading Brown, but I think Fox’s future is pretty murky.

Now, if you start talking to me about, Halliburton, Hield, and maybe some small change…. I’m listening.

[wdleehi]

No thanks



I rather see a healthy Brown playing along a Tatum out of his slump first before thinking about trading Brown for multiple pieces.   

[Vermont Green]

Our team desperately needs a floor general point guard who can run the offense. Haven't had one since Rondo.

I am not sure this is our biggest need.  I feel a good big would help us more, improve us more, than a good PG.  I can't think of too many PGs I would trade Brown for.  Fox is not one of them at any rate.

Fox and Heild doesn't even work for salaries does it?  I think Fox and Bagley for Brown (with a TPE in the mix) may work.

[GreenShooter]

I would love for the C's to include Smart in ANY deal they make, especially if it's for a PG like Fox. Maybe they'd add Bagley. He being useless in Sactown. #freebagley

[slamtheking]

No thanks



I rather see a healthy Brown playing along a Tatum out of his slump first before thinking about trading Brown for multiple pieces.

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