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Pritchard thoughts...
« on: November 04, 2021, 01:50:33 PM »

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I love Pritchard and wanted him in the draft with that said, if he's not shooting the ball then he has limited value on the court. He should come in and run off screens and make teams overreact to him. He does pull defenders out past the 3 point arc when he's not stuck in the corner but he'd be better working off of screens and having some offense run for him. He does rebound very well for a small guard but he has to be in the game for his shooting like Smart should be in for his defense and not his shooting. Putting players in a position to succeed is very important to role players.

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I love Pritchard and wanted him in the draft with that said, if he's not shooting the ball then he has limited value on the court. He should come in and run off screens and make teams overreact to him. He does pull defenders out past the 3 point arc when he's not stuck in the corner but he'd be better working off of screens and having some offense run for him. He does rebound very well for a small guard but he has to be in the game for his shooting like Smart should be in for his defense and not his shooting. Putting players in a position to succeed is very important to role players.

There are only 3 players on the team I feel confident about when a 3 goes up.  And PP is one of them.  When it comes to the sharpshooter role that the better NBA teams seem to have, Pritchard is as close as we've got at the moment.  But he does need to shoot.   So yes, get him looks!

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I love Pritchard and wanted him in the draft with that said, if he's not shooting the ball then he has limited value on the court. He should come in and run off screens and make teams overreact to him. He does pull defenders out past the 3 point arc when he's not stuck in the corner but he'd be better working off of screens and having some offense run for him. He does rebound very well for a small guard but he has to be in the game for his shooting like Smart should be in for his defense and not his shooting. Putting players in a position to succeed is very important to role players.

There are only 3 players on the team I feel confident about when a 3 goes up.  And PP is one of them.  When it comes to the sharpshooter role that the better NBA teams seem to have, Pritchard is as close as we've got at the moment.  But he does need to shoot.   So yes, get him looks!

He did take that tough charge the other night which gave me hope but he's got to be in there to shoot.

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The fact that the Celtic have 3 PGs is a good thing.   Especially since one of them is a short term Celtic. 


Hopefully he finds a way to carve out some more minutes.

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2021, 02:22:28 PM »

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I mentioned this in another thread.

I think it's difficult to get a limited player like Pritchard on the court, given our current rotation.  He's a 6'1" shooter who can't defend very well (even though he tries) and doesn't create enough to viably run the offense.  Ideally, yes, we could really use his shooting.  But you can't really run him alongside Schroder off the bench because that just makes us way too small.  So it's hard to find opportunities to use him. 

You can fit him into lineups with adequate size and shot creation.  Say, with one of our larger guards, at least one of the Jays, and Horford.  But on units that lack those things, I think he creates more problems for us than he does the opponent. 

And yes, I agree that we need to do a better job of seeking out shots for him when he does get minutes.  EDIT TO ADD:  He's averaging three shots in about thirteen minutes per game.  That's plenty for a player with a small role.  If he earns a larger job, he'll get more shots.  So I really don't have an issue for the number of shots he's getting for the time being. 
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I love Pritchard and wanted him in the draft with that said, if he's not shooting the ball then he has limited value on the court. He should come in and run off screens and make teams overreact to him. He does pull defenders out past the 3 point arc when he's not stuck in the corner but he'd be better working off of screens and having some offense run for him. He does rebound very well for a small guard but he has to be in the game for his shooting like Smart should be in for his defense and not his shooting. Putting players in a position to succeed is very important to role players.

That's one thing Brad was good at...getting the most out of players by maximizing their strengths and minimizing their limitations. He managed to turn a 5-9 guard like IT into a 30ppg scorer while limiting his defensive liabilities. Hopefully Ime is thinking outside the box in a similar way when it comes to some of our bench guys and their limitations.
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Pritchard appears to be the 10th-11th man in the rotation. How many 10th-11th men in the rotation get more than 2-3 shots a game? I am guessing not very many or close to none. You simply don't create specific offensive plays designed for the 10th or 11th men in the rotation. As that 10th-11th guy, Pritchard is getting 3 shots a game. Here's the problem...27.3% FG%...31.3% 3PT%.

Last year he played a different role, often the 7th-8th man in the rotation. So he got more shots. His role has been diminished and I honestly think that's a good thing because Romeo and Dennis are simply much better players, even if not better shooters.

If Pritchard was 6'3", long, quick and played better much defense, I would be up in arms. But he isn't. If he starts hitting his shots at over 40%, maybe he gets more minutes and more shots, but until he does he is going to play that 10th-11th man role that Semi played last year and get the number of shots Semi did 2-4 FGA/game.

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Too much overreactions to Pritchard's poor start (on the forums in general rather than this thread). Start being the key word in that sentence.

He is shooting the badly but we all know he can shoot. We do not need to be worried about that part of his game. The rest of his game? Okay, fair enough. The jump shot? No.

Is he shooting bad just because he is a funk? Or because he is wearing an uncomfortable face mask to protect his broken nose? Who knows. Either way, it'll fix itself in time.

In the meantime, Udoka can sit Pritchard if he is not performing well enough.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2021, 02:50:37 PM »

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I love Pritchard and wanted him in the draft with that said, if he's not shooting the ball then he has limited value on the court. He should come in and run off screens and make teams overreact to him. He does pull defenders out past the 3 point arc when he's not stuck in the corner but he'd be better working off of screens and having some offense run for him. He does rebound very well for a small guard but he has to be in the game for his shooting like Smart should be in for his defense and not his shooting. Putting players in a position to succeed is very important to role players.

I also wanted Payton in the draft and I still like him even with his flaws.  It appears to me that for whatever reason (maybe it's the mask) he is not shooting when he clearly has an open 3.  Many of his misses look to be desperation type shots.  Also, neither of the Js pass the ball to him when they are in the game with him.  Tough situation for a 6'1" guard. 
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I think when it comes to shooters you need to give them enough time to have rhythm.

It's pretty rare that a guy can play 2-3 minutes here and there and still be lights out.

This also applies to Nesmith.

Just another way in which Ime's rotations are garbage so far.
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I think when it comes to shooters you need to give them enough time to have rhythm.

It's pretty rare that a guy can play 2-3 minutes here and there and still be lights out.

This also applies to Nesmith.

Just another way in which Ime's rotations are garbage so far.

Ime is playing a tight playoff type rotation and it's November.

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I love Pritchard and wanted him in the draft with that said, if he's not shooting the ball then he has limited value on the court. He should come in and run off screens and make teams overreact to him. He does pull defenders out past the 3 point arc when he's not stuck in the corner but he'd be better working off of screens and having some offense run for him. He does rebound very well for a small guard but he has to be in the game for his shooting like Smart should be in for his defense and not his shooting. Putting players in a position to succeed is very important to role players.

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I love Pritchard and wanted him in the draft with that said, if he's not shooting the ball then he has limited value on the court. He should come in and run off screens and make teams overreact to him. He does pull defenders out past the 3 point arc when he's not stuck in the corner but he'd be better working off of screens and having some offense run for him. He does rebound very well for a small guard but he has to be in the game for his shooting like Smart should be in for his defense and not his shooting. Putting players in a position to succeed is very important to role players.

Brad gave Ime pieces and a chess board and it’s his job to figure it out. Problem is, He doesn’t  seem to be very good at chess. Yet...

He's playing checkers. I really hope he figures it out.

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i would love to see what he could do with more PT
he did really well as a rookie
then kemba came back his minutes were cut

i could never figure out why BS didnt stat him when kemba was out

this year hes behind marcus and DS

i still think he could be really good
and if we're gonna suck anyway i'd give him more of a chance

MS clearly isnt the long term answer
and DS is gone after this year

give payton a chance
free pritchard!!

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As some have said, Pritchard is simply a limited guy, but it's on defense AND offense.  We already know he's small so defense will never be a huge strength.  But on offense, it isn't what some thing he is.  Sure, he has deep range.  But he ends up shooting those because of his inability to get better shots consistently.  And someone also said, you can be trying to run plays for a guy that is toward the back of the bench.  Those types need to get in where they fit in.

Long term, PP is a career back up at best.  Not the kind of guy that is going to make a huge difference.