Hypothetical Tatum for Bridges and Ball

[KG Living Legend]

You get Ball to play with Tatum, not for Tatum.

Would Tatum work with Ball?

The question is what is Tatum? He's been groomed as a ball dominant scoring machine. The ball dominant part seems like a problem. He gets compared a lot to Durant, but can he be like Durant, and be a spectacular scorer while allowing someone else to make lots of the decisions?

I think the C's have screwed up here. Tatum is a monster scorer, but now he has deeply baked in bad habits. He's an OK decision maker, but he's been a primary ball handler for several years. He's going to improve, but he just doesn't have the innate talent of an elite playmaker. He never will. And because of that, the C's are a mediocre playmaking team.

I'd rather have Tatum if he could adapt to handing over a chunk of the playmaking to someone better at it. Its really frustrating we haven't tried to get that player. I don't see us winning a title if he's the primary decision maker. And I don't know if he's the same scorer off the ball.

 That's a TP TD. I've made that point a thousand times here.  It's inexcusable at this point. 

 There is no question in my mind we would be a better team in the short term and probably the long term as well.

 We are screwed if we don't aquire an elite playmaker.

[moiso]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

[gouki88]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

[KG Living Legend]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

 Ball is putting up Better numbers at the same age as Tatum and he pays much much more of a team game. 

 Nothing controversial about this statement.  Straight facts.

[tazzmaniac]

I can't imagine Bridges continues at anywhere near this pace.  He'd take a leap that is basically unprecedented i.e. doubling your scoring in year 4 without really changing your role (i.e. he has played basically 30 mpg with more starts than not over the last 2 seasons and now takes this leap).

Bridges is taking nearly twice as many shots as he previously did.  That's a big role change.  His shooting percentages are not fluky.  As long as his shot attempts aren't reduced significantly don't see why can't he keep up the pace. 

[gouki88]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

 Ball is putting up Better numbers at the same age as Tatum and he pays much much more of a team game. 

 Nothing controversial about this statement.  Straight facts.

Except for him not putting up better numbers. Tatum also has a much stronger history of being a better player.

These are nothing resembling facts. These are your opinions. Ones which I find quite out of touch

[moiso]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

 Ball is putting up Better numbers at the same age as Tatum and he pays much much more of a team game. 

 Nothing controversial about this statement.  Straight facts.

Except for him not putting up better numbers. Tatum also has a much stronger history of being a better player.

These are nothing resembling facts. These are your opinions. Ones which I find quite out of touch

Most allstar caliber 5th year players will have a stronger history than an allstar caliber 2nd year player.  If I remember correctly, weren't you calling Ja Morant the most overrated player in the league last year?  The great ones have to start somewhere.  And Lamelo will be great.

[gouki88]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

 Ball is putting up Better numbers at the same age as Tatum and he pays much much more of a team game. 

 Nothing controversial about this statement.  Straight facts.

Except for him not putting up better numbers. Tatum also has a much stronger history of being a better player.

These are nothing resembling facts. These are your opinions. Ones which I find quite out of touch

Most allstar caliber 5th year players will have a stronger history than an allstar caliber 2nd year player.  If I remember correctly, weren't you calling Ja Morant the most overrated player in the league last year?  The great ones have to start somewhere.  And Lamelo will be great.

Ja Morant's counting stats are great. He is still a terrible defender, and his team is .500 at the moment.

LaMelo might be great one day. He isn't great now, and has not ever been "great" for any long period. Tatum has been

[KG Living Legend]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

 Ball is putting up Better numbers at the same age as Tatum and he pays much much more of a team game. 

 Nothing controversial about this statement.  Straight facts.

Except for him not putting up better numbers. Tatum also has a much stronger history of being a better player.

These are nothing resembling facts. These are your opinions. Ones which I find quite out of touch

Most allstar caliber 5th year players will have a stronger history than an allstar caliber 2nd year player.  If I remember correctly, weren't you calling Ja Morant the most overrated player in the league last year?  The great ones have to start somewhere.  And Lamelo will be great.

Ja Morant's counting stats are great. He is still a terrible defender, and his team is .500 at the moment.

LaMelo might be great one day. He isn't great now, and has not ever been "great" for any long period. Tatum has been

 Your not picking up what I'm putting down.  Tatum has taken the step as to being an Elite scorer. Ball may never get there. Time will tell.

 However Ball is better and more well rounded at age 19 and 20 years old. He's just better its not a debate.


 13.9 ppg 5 rpg 1.6 apg 1 spg for Tatum  age 19

15.9 ppg 5.9 apg 6.1 rpg 1.6 spg for Ball age 19

[moiso]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

 Ball is putting up Better numbers at the same age as Tatum and he pays much much more of a team game. 

 Nothing controversial about this statement.  Straight facts.

Except for him not putting up better numbers. Tatum also has a much stronger history of being a better player.

These are nothing resembling facts. These are your opinions. Ones which I find quite out of touch

Most allstar caliber 5th year players will have a stronger history than an allstar caliber 2nd year player.  If I remember correctly, weren't you calling Ja Morant the most overrated player in the league last year?  The great ones have to start somewhere.  And Lamelo will be great.

Ja Morant's counting stats are great. He is still a terrible defender, and his team is .500 at the moment.

LaMelo might be great one day. He isn't great now, and has not ever been "great" for any long period. Tatum has been

So what's so funny about trading Tatum for Ball?  Can you see the difference in their court awareness and BBIQ's?  It's night and day.

[KG Living Legend]

I'll be honest, LaMelo might be a better player than Tatum lol.

I'd trade Tatum for LaMelo without a 2nd thought.  He's going to be a very special player... with team oriented skills.

Lol

 Ball is putting up Better numbers at the same age as Tatum and he pays much much more of a team game. 

 Nothing controversial about this statement.  Straight facts.

Except for him not putting up better numbers. Tatum also has a much stronger history of being a better player.

These are nothing resembling facts. These are your opinions. Ones which I find quite out of touch

Most allstar caliber 5th year players will have a stronger history than an allstar caliber 2nd year player.  If I remember correctly, weren't you calling Ja Morant the most overrated player in the league last year?  The great ones have to start somewhere.  And Lamelo will be great.

Ja Morant's counting stats are great. He is still a terrible defender, and his team is .500 at the moment.

LaMelo might be great one day. He isn't great now, and has not ever been "great" for any long period. Tatum has been

So what's so funny about trading Tatum for Ball?  Can you see the difference in their court awareness and BBIQ's?  It's night and day.

 TP moiso. Tatum is overrated at this point. Ball and Bridges would transform the Celtics overnight.  People underestimate the impact of an elite playmaker than can score. And Bridges is 10 times tougher than Tatum.

 Jayson I hope your reading this.

[Big333223]

I get the logic of the OP, in a video-game way.

But in reality, you hope and pray for a player who can do what Tatum can do offensively. He's working to add more playmaking for others to his game and its been shaky so far but as it gets more comfortable, he's going to be the MVP candidate and posts like this will be... fun.

[KG Living Legend]

I get the logic of the OP, in a video-game way.

But in reality, you hope and pray for a player who can do what Tatum can do offensively. He's working to add more playmaking for others to his game and its been shaky so far but as it gets more comfortable, he's going to be the MVP candidate and posts like this will be... fun.

 Do you think Lamelo will be avg 20 to 25 ppg in three years? If so than the trade is a no Brainer.

[flybono]

In a second

Tatum is a bust!

[pokeKingCurtis]

I get the logic of the OP, in a video-game way.

But in reality, you hope and pray for a player who can do what Tatum can do offensively. He's working to add more playmaking for others to his game and its been shaky so far but as it gets more comfortable, he's going to be the MVP candidate and posts like this will be... fun.

If Tatum asks out, Bridges and Ball is not a bad return.

But yea, agreed, having one potential A+ player is better than one B+ and one B player.