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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4650 on: April 29, 2022, 11:59:18 AM »

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I am shocked Devin Booker made it back for last night's game. I thought he was meant to be out through to the end of round two. His return makes Phoenix the clear favourite over Dallas ... assuming he is truly healthy and plays much better than last night.

I am looking forward to a Suns vs Warriors WCF matchup.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4651 on: April 29, 2022, 12:19:51 PM »

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Is there a better story line for the NBA finals than Jayson Tatum versus Luka Doncic?

If I had to guess, TV execs are salivating at the thought of a Celtics-Warriors Finals.

Bingo……I think the Warriors are already talking about it …….Green is studying the Celtics every game like it’s final exams .   

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« Reply #4652 on: April 29, 2022, 12:41:20 PM »

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Dinwiddie coming up with some big shots as the Mavs pull ahead.

You earned a tommy point for that call. I didn’t see it coming and was wrong. Incredible shooting from Dallas and Utah seems to really just fold up in the face of adversity (as we also saw with their 40 point loss earlier).

Haha, thanks. TP for the game discussion. The Jazz are still going to be tough to close out tonight, this one aint over.

I have noticed the mavericks have completely benched Bertans and green this half which they needed to do. Those guys can’t be in a playoff rotation.

Yeah, Bertans has been awful all season long. You can't play guys like that in a closeout playoff game.

Can they survive with a 7 man playoff rotation? None of their important players very old. This would help then a lot.
Bertrans and Green only played 2 min apiece and Powell only played 11 so they won that game with 6.5 rotation.  However they need Paul to come up small in the series to have a chance to beat the Suns.  Assuming health, I think Suns in 5.

Yeah Booker didn’t look full strength tonight, but should be better with a few days rest. I would say the suns just have so many more good players. It probably goes, doncic, Paul, Booker, Brunson, ayton, bridges dfs then crowder before you get to the crap guys. Also even though he is not super aggressive ayton should destroy powell and kleber. Pretty big advantage there.
I'm sure Ayton will get some boards as his shear size will be a factor.  Ayton didn't play the Mavs in the regular season with Porzingis being on the floor so it is hard to say how the Mavs will do defensively.  I do think the speed of the defenders could cause Ayton some difficulty as he has struggled with slower faster guys in the past (at least scoring wise). 

Ultimately I think the series comes down to how much can Bridges slow Doncic down.  The only time Luka played against the Suns this year (KP and Hardaway were still on the team) he was only 9 of 23 though did finish with 28/8/8.  Over 7 games, I just don't think the Suns will slow Luka down enough.  And I do think the Suns will have difficulty guarding the Doncic/Brunson/Dinwiddie combo collectively.  Paul and Crowder don't have the speed and Booker is a poor defender, such that they won't be able to help Bridges much on Doncic.  Bridges is going to have play all series like the DPOY candidate that he was, and I just don't think he is going to be able to do it.  And on the other end, the Suns being more wing/guard centric also won't help them really capitalize on the Mavs lack of size because for as good as Ayton is, he just isn't that type of scorer (at least not yet).

Mavs in 6.

Well I appreciate you going out on a limb with a concrete prediction. If the Mavs somehow win in 6 I’ll give you props. I just don’t see it. Dallas really struggle with a very mediocre jazz team even after luka   Got back. Believe jazz were under .500 last 2.5 months of season
And Phoenix didn't struggle with the Pelicans, who've you continually harped on as being terrible?

They probably win in 5 if Booker isn't hurt. Dallas beating the Utah in 6 games without Luka for 2 and hobbled in the third is a lot more pathetic on Utah's part. Utah just isn't bery good in the playoffs and their team is going to be blown up because of it. This isn't Rocket science Mo.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4653 on: April 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PM »

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Timelord tore his meniscus about 4 weeks ago and he came back. Booker suffered a hamstring injury that was supposed to keep him out 2-3 weeks, he came back a bit earlier. Then there's Ben Simmons out due to some "soreness"...
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4654 on: April 29, 2022, 01:33:51 PM »

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Dinwiddie coming up with some big shots as the Mavs pull ahead.

You earned a tommy point for that call. I didn’t see it coming and was wrong. Incredible shooting from Dallas and Utah seems to really just fold up in the face of adversity (as we also saw with their 40 point loss earlier).

Haha, thanks. TP for the game discussion. The Jazz are still going to be tough to close out tonight, this one aint over.

I have noticed the mavericks have completely benched Bertans and green this half which they needed to do. Those guys can’t be in a playoff rotation.

Yeah, Bertans has been awful all season long. You can't play guys like that in a closeout playoff game.

Can they survive with a 7 man playoff rotation? None of their important players very old. This would help then a lot.
Bertrans and Green only played 2 min apiece and Powell only played 11 so they won that game with 6.5 rotation.  However they need Paul to come up small in the series to have a chance to beat the Suns.  Assuming health, I think Suns in 5.

Yeah Booker didn’t look full strength tonight, but should be better with a few days rest. I would say the suns just have so many more good players. It probably goes, doncic, Paul, Booker, Brunson, ayton, bridges dfs then crowder before you get to the crap guys. Also even though he is not super aggressive ayton should destroy powell and kleber. Pretty big advantage there.
I'm sure Ayton will get some boards as his shear size will be a factor.  Ayton didn't play the Mavs in the regular season with Porzingis being on the floor so it is hard to say how the Mavs will do defensively.  I do think the speed of the defenders could cause Ayton some difficulty as he has struggled with slower faster guys in the past (at least scoring wise). 

Ultimately I think the series comes down to how much can Bridges slow Doncic down.  The only time Luka played against the Suns this year (KP and Hardaway were still on the team) he was only 9 of 23 though did finish with 28/8/8.  Over 7 games, I just don't think the Suns will slow Luka down enough.  And I do think the Suns will have difficulty guarding the Doncic/Brunson/Dinwiddie combo collectively.  Paul and Crowder don't have the speed and Booker is a poor defender, such that they won't be able to help Bridges much on Doncic.  Bridges is going to have play all series like the DPOY candidate that he was, and I just don't think he is going to be able to do it.  And on the other end, the Suns being more wing/guard centric also won't help them really capitalize on the Mavs lack of size because for as good as Ayton is, he just isn't that type of scorer (at least not yet).

Mavs in 6.

Well I appreciate you going out on a limb with a concrete prediction. If the Mavs somehow win in 6 I’ll give you props. I just don’t see it. Dallas really struggle with a very mediocre jazz team even after luka   Got back. Believe jazz were under .500 last 2.5 months of season
And Phoenix didn't struggle with the Pelicans, who've you continually harped on as being terrible?

They probably win in 5 if Booker isn't hurt. Dallas beating the Utah in 6 games without Luka for 2 and hobbled in the third is a lot more pathetic on Utah's part. Utah just isn't bery good in the playoffs and their team is going to be blown up because of it. This isn't Rocket science Mo.
or maybe you are just underselling the 2nd best team of 2022.  Dallas, quite simply, is better than you are giving them credit for. 

Plus, you've done nothing but crap on the Pelicans all season long, now you are acting like they are better than the Jazz.  If the Pelicans are as bad as you claim, then even without Booker, the Suns should have crushed them.  Perhaps you were wrong about the Pelicans as well
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4655 on: April 29, 2022, 03:01:35 PM »

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Dinwiddie coming up with some big shots as the Mavs pull ahead.

You earned a tommy point for that call. I didn’t see it coming and was wrong. Incredible shooting from Dallas and Utah seems to really just fold up in the face of adversity (as we also saw with their 40 point loss earlier).

Haha, thanks. TP for the game discussion. The Jazz are still going to be tough to close out tonight, this one aint over.

I have noticed the mavericks have completely benched Bertans and green this half which they needed to do. Those guys can’t be in a playoff rotation.

Yeah, Bertans has been awful all season long. You can't play guys like that in a closeout playoff game.

Can they survive with a 7 man playoff rotation? None of their important players very old. This would help then a lot.
Bertrans and Green only played 2 min apiece and Powell only played 11 so they won that game with 6.5 rotation.  However they need Paul to come up small in the series to have a chance to beat the Suns.  Assuming health, I think Suns in 5.

Yeah Booker didn’t look full strength tonight, but should be better with a few days rest. I would say the suns just have so many more good players. It probably goes, doncic, Paul, Booker, Brunson, ayton, bridges dfs then crowder before you get to the crap guys. Also even though he is not super aggressive ayton should destroy powell and kleber. Pretty big advantage there.
I'm sure Ayton will get some boards as his shear size will be a factor.  Ayton didn't play the Mavs in the regular season with Porzingis being on the floor so it is hard to say how the Mavs will do defensively.  I do think the speed of the defenders could cause Ayton some difficulty as he has struggled with slower faster guys in the past (at least scoring wise). 

Ultimately I think the series comes down to how much can Bridges slow Doncic down.  The only time Luka played against the Suns this year (KP and Hardaway were still on the team) he was only 9 of 23 though did finish with 28/8/8.  Over 7 games, I just don't think the Suns will slow Luka down enough.  And I do think the Suns will have difficulty guarding the Doncic/Brunson/Dinwiddie combo collectively.  Paul and Crowder don't have the speed and Booker is a poor defender, such that they won't be able to help Bridges much on Doncic.  Bridges is going to have play all series like the DPOY candidate that he was, and I just don't think he is going to be able to do it.  And on the other end, the Suns being more wing/guard centric also won't help them really capitalize on the Mavs lack of size because for as good as Ayton is, he just isn't that type of scorer (at least not yet).

Mavs in 6.

Well I appreciate you going out on a limb with a concrete prediction. If the Mavs somehow win in 6 I’ll give you props. I just don’t see it. Dallas really struggle with a very mediocre jazz team even after luka   Got back. Believe jazz were under .500 last 2.5 months of season
And Phoenix didn't struggle with the Pelicans, who've you continually harped on as being terrible?

They probably win in 5 if Booker isn't hurt. Dallas beating the Utah in 6 games without Luka for 2 and hobbled in the third is a lot more pathetic on Utah's part. Utah just isn't bery good in the playoffs and their team is going to be blown up because of it. This isn't Rocket science Mo.
or maybe you are just underselling the 2nd best team of 2022.  Dallas, quite simply, is better than you are giving them credit for. 

Plus, you've done nothing but crap on the Pelicans all season long, now you are acting like they are better than the Jazz.  If the Pelicans are as bad as you claim, then even without Booker, the Suns should have crushed them.  Perhaps you were wrong about the Pelicans as well

Good grief. I have already said I will give you credit if Dallas does actually win. They are pretty significant underdogs for a reason. If you were as smart as you think you are, you should really be making bets and you could own your own island by now. But, quite simple, you are not. I don't think taking 6 games to beat anyone miss your best player for half the series is some collapse. Heck if we were down Tatum for 3 games I wouldn't be shocked if the Hawks went 6 with us.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4656 on: April 29, 2022, 04:02:36 PM »

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Dinwiddie coming up with some big shots as the Mavs pull ahead.

You earned a tommy point for that call. I didn’t see it coming and was wrong. Incredible shooting from Dallas and Utah seems to really just fold up in the face of adversity (as we also saw with their 40 point loss earlier).

Haha, thanks. TP for the game discussion. The Jazz are still going to be tough to close out tonight, this one aint over.

I have noticed the mavericks have completely benched Bertans and green this half which they needed to do. Those guys can’t be in a playoff rotation.

Yeah, Bertans has been awful all season long. You can't play guys like that in a closeout playoff game.

Can they survive with a 7 man playoff rotation? None of their important players very old. This would help then a lot.
Bertrans and Green only played 2 min apiece and Powell only played 11 so they won that game with 6.5 rotation.  However they need Paul to come up small in the series to have a chance to beat the Suns.  Assuming health, I think Suns in 5.

Yeah Booker didn’t look full strength tonight, but should be better with a few days rest. I would say the suns just have so many more good players. It probably goes, doncic, Paul, Booker, Brunson, ayton, bridges dfs then crowder before you get to the crap guys. Also even though he is not super aggressive ayton should destroy powell and kleber. Pretty big advantage there.
I'm sure Ayton will get some boards as his shear size will be a factor.  Ayton didn't play the Mavs in the regular season with Porzingis being on the floor so it is hard to say how the Mavs will do defensively.  I do think the speed of the defenders could cause Ayton some difficulty as he has struggled with slower faster guys in the past (at least scoring wise). 

Ultimately I think the series comes down to how much can Bridges slow Doncic down.  The only time Luka played against the Suns this year (KP and Hardaway were still on the team) he was only 9 of 23 though did finish with 28/8/8.  Over 7 games, I just don't think the Suns will slow Luka down enough.  And I do think the Suns will have difficulty guarding the Doncic/Brunson/Dinwiddie combo collectively.  Paul and Crowder don't have the speed and Booker is a poor defender, such that they won't be able to help Bridges much on Doncic.  Bridges is going to have play all series like the DPOY candidate that he was, and I just don't think he is going to be able to do it.  And on the other end, the Suns being more wing/guard centric also won't help them really capitalize on the Mavs lack of size because for as good as Ayton is, he just isn't that type of scorer (at least not yet).

Mavs in 6.

Well I appreciate you going out on a limb with a concrete prediction. If the Mavs somehow win in 6 I’ll give you props. I just don’t see it. Dallas really struggle with a very mediocre jazz team even after luka   Got back. Believe jazz were under .500 last 2.5 months of season
And Phoenix didn't struggle with the Pelicans, who've you continually harped on as being terrible?

They probably win in 5 if Booker isn't hurt. Dallas beating the Utah in 6 games without Luka for 2 and hobbled in the third is a lot more pathetic on Utah's part. Utah just isn't bery good in the playoffs and their team is going to be blown up because of it. This isn't Rocket science Mo.
or maybe you are just underselling the 2nd best team of 2022.  Dallas, quite simply, is better than you are giving them credit for. 

Plus, you've done nothing but crap on the Pelicans all season long, now you are acting like they are better than the Jazz.  If the Pelicans are as bad as you claim, then even without Booker, the Suns should have crushed them.  Perhaps you were wrong about the Pelicans as well

Good grief. I have already said I will give you credit if Dallas does actually win. They are pretty significant underdogs for a reason. If you were as smart as you think you are, you should really be making bets and you could own your own island by now. But, quite simple, you are not. I don't think taking 6 games to beat anyone miss your best player for half the series is some collapse. Heck if we were down Tatum for 3 games I wouldn't be shocked if the Hawks went 6 with us.
And yet Luka missed half the series against a better team.  My issue is that you aren't being consistent.  Have some consistency.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4657 on: April 29, 2022, 04:51:50 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4658 on: April 29, 2022, 05:44:00 PM »

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Dinwiddie coming up with some big shots as the Mavs pull ahead.

You earned a tommy point for that call. I didn’t see it coming and was wrong. Incredible shooting from Dallas and Utah seems to really just fold up in the face of adversity (as we also saw with their 40 point loss earlier).

Haha, thanks. TP for the game discussion. The Jazz are still going to be tough to close out tonight, this one aint over.

I have noticed the mavericks have completely benched Bertans and green this half which they needed to do. Those guys can’t be in a playoff rotation.

Yeah, Bertans has been awful all season long. You can't play guys like that in a closeout playoff game.

Can they survive with a 7 man playoff rotation? None of their important players very old. This would help then a lot.
Bertrans and Green only played 2 min apiece and Powell only played 11 so they won that game with 6.5 rotation.  However they need Paul to come up small in the series to have a chance to beat the Suns.  Assuming health, I think Suns in 5.

Yeah Booker didn’t look full strength tonight, but should be better with a few days rest. I would say the suns just have so many more good players. It probably goes, doncic, Paul, Booker, Brunson, ayton, bridges dfs then crowder before you get to the crap guys. Also even though he is not super aggressive ayton should destroy powell and kleber. Pretty big advantage there.
I'm sure Ayton will get some boards as his shear size will be a factor.  Ayton didn't play the Mavs in the regular season with Porzingis being on the floor so it is hard to say how the Mavs will do defensively.  I do think the speed of the defenders could cause Ayton some difficulty as he has struggled with slower faster guys in the past (at least scoring wise). 

Ultimately I think the series comes down to how much can Bridges slow Doncic down.  The only time Luka played against the Suns this year (KP and Hardaway were still on the team) he was only 9 of 23 though did finish with 28/8/8.  Over 7 games, I just don't think the Suns will slow Luka down enough.  And I do think the Suns will have difficulty guarding the Doncic/Brunson/Dinwiddie combo collectively.  Paul and Crowder don't have the speed and Booker is a poor defender, such that they won't be able to help Bridges much on Doncic.  Bridges is going to have play all series like the DPOY candidate that he was, and I just don't think he is going to be able to do it.  And on the other end, the Suns being more wing/guard centric also won't help them really capitalize on the Mavs lack of size because for as good as Ayton is, he just isn't that type of scorer (at least not yet).

Mavs in 6.

Well I appreciate you going out on a limb with a concrete prediction. If the Mavs somehow win in 6 I’ll give you props. I just don’t see it. Dallas really struggle with a very mediocre jazz team even after luka   Got back. Believe jazz were under .500 last 2.5 months of season
And Phoenix didn't struggle with the Pelicans, who've you continually harped on as being terrible?

They probably win in 5 if Booker isn't hurt. Dallas beating the Utah in 6 games without Luka for 2 and hobbled in the third is a lot more pathetic on Utah's part. Utah just isn't bery good in the playoffs and their team is going to be blown up because of it. This isn't Rocket science Mo.
or maybe you are just underselling the 2nd best team of 2022.  Dallas, quite simply, is better than you are giving them credit for. 

Plus, you've done nothing but crap on the Pelicans all season long, now you are acting like they are better than the Jazz.  If the Pelicans are as bad as you claim, then even without Booker, the Suns should have crushed them.  Perhaps you were wrong about the Pelicans as well

Good grief. I have already said I will give you credit if Dallas does actually win. They are pretty significant underdogs for a reason. If you were as smart as you think you are, you should really be making bets and you could own your own island by now. But, quite simple, you are not. I don't think taking 6 games to beat anyone miss your best player for half the series is some collapse. Heck if we were down Tatum for 3 games I wouldn't be shocked if the Hawks went 6 with us.
And yet Luka missed half the series against a better team.  My issue is that you aren't being consistent.  Have some consistency.

I LITERALLY could not be more consistent. Stop with the willful ignorance.

Luka missed games - it took them 6 to beat a crap playoff team (Utah)
If Tatum miss games - i said i thought it would take them 6 games to beat a crap team (hawks)
Booker miss games - It took them 6 games to beat a crap playoff team (pelicans)

HOW COULD I BE MORE CONSISTENT?

For the love of all that is holy please stop wasting my time and the forums time and just see if Dallas wins the series and then you can lord over the board how smart you are. Ill even give you 20 tommy points Until then just please stop this nonsense. I have zero interest in you goading me into get a ban or a warning from the mods so I am not discussing this any further until after an actual game is played.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4659 on: April 29, 2022, 05:52:24 PM »

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Anyone follow Kyrie crying about Stephen a Smith? As if he somehow is above criticism. And deserves $50million a year to play 47% of the games

Yeah, not a Stephen A fan, but he might have won me over for being willing to call Kyrie on the BS he gets away with.

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« Reply #4660 on: April 29, 2022, 06:03:19 PM »

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Anyone follow Kyrie crying about Stephen a Smith? As if he somehow is above criticism. And deserves $50million a year to play 47% of the games

Yeah, not a Stephen A fan, but he might have won me over for being willing to call Kyrie on the BS he gets away with.

I honestly had the same thought.

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« Reply #4661 on: April 29, 2022, 06:09:39 PM »

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Jeff Van Gundy on Lowe post favors Philly over Miami.

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Jeff Van Gundy on Lowe post favors Philly over Miami.

Both favor Celtics over Bucks. JVG calls Celtics the best team in playoffs.

It's tough. The Sixers-Heat series I think can go either way. Sixers have more high-end talent, but Miami has the better coach, are more disciplined and more physical. Plus Miami has HCA.

I say Celtics in 7, and Sixers in 6
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« Reply #4663 on: April 29, 2022, 07:47:08 PM »

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Jeff Van Gundy on Lowe post favors Philly over Miami.

Both favor Celtics over Bucks. JVG calls Celtics the best team in playoffs.

It's tough. The Sixers-Heat series I think can go either way. Sixers have more high-end talent, but Miami has the better coach, are more disciplined and more physical. Plus Miami has HCA.

I say Celtics in 7, and Sixers in 6

I would have said heat before Embid looked 100% healthy yesterday. Injuries have played such a huge role in the playoffs so far. Wonder if another star goes down before it is over.

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« Reply #4664 on: April 29, 2022, 07:58:19 PM »

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Anyone follow Kyrie crying about Stephen a Smith? As if he somehow is above criticism. And deserves $50million a year to play 47% of the games

Yeah, not a Stephen A fan, but he might have won me over for being willing to call Kyrie on the BS he gets away with.

I honestly had the same thought.
That makes 3 of us but SAS has been eviscerating the Nets overall.  He said he'd only offer Kyrie 1-year contracts which isn't going to happen, but it should.  After demolishing Kyrie, he ranted about Simmons being even worse.  And he hasn't given KD a pass or even sympathy like some folks are doing.

The Nets came out saying they don't want any drama next season and want to get back to their blue-collar culture.  Only way that happens if they trade all 3 of those knuckleheads.  It would really be funny if they embraced the craziness and doubled down to form an all-time crazy team.