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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3825 on: April 20, 2022, 09:03:49 AM »

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Yeah losing a first or second all nba guy is crippling. Hate to say it but we would get stomped pretty quick if we lost Tatum.

To New Orleans?  No, we wouldn’t get stomped pretty quick, and Phoenix was already down midway through the third when Booker left the game.

Phoenix had an off night, but New Orleans is still a not-good team that Phoenix will be meat without Booker if need be.
I meant to the nets.

Sure, but Phoenix wasn’t playing the Nets, and again, Phoenix was down despite him.  He’s a loss, but I’m not sure his loss is why they didn’t win tonight.
it’s obviously an unanswerable question. But he left at halftime with 31 points right? He had a chance to go for 50-60. I don’t think we should just gloss over that. I will acknowledge there is definitely a chance the pelicans could have squeaked it out if he still played, but personally I don’t think they would have. At a larger level I think acting like the pelicans are a very good team is more preposterous when the majority of their wins they got to make the playin were against tanking or flat out horrible teams In The west.

He played 25 minutes, left over halfway through the third down 77-74, and the Suns were -6 while he was on the court in his 25 minutes, compared to a -3 when he was off the court in 23 minutes.  Maybe they ultimately would have won the game if he hadn’t gotten hurt, but his injury was not the reason they lost.  And I still expect the Suns to win the series even if Booker is out for the remainder.  The Suns had an off night, as most teams do in the playoffs once or twice.  The Pelicans were better last night, but that’s not saying that they’re in any way “good”.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3826 on: April 20, 2022, 10:45:07 AM »

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Have to admit, so far the playoffs are living up to the hype. Yeah a few of the series like Raps-Sixers, Nugs-Warriors may be one-sided but that's how it always is in the 1st round anyways. Lots of other great series and great games and back-and-forths so far. I expect we could have 2 or even 3 Game 7s this round.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3827 on: April 20, 2022, 03:21:27 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3828 on: April 20, 2022, 03:31:03 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3829 on: April 20, 2022, 03:31:53 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

Suns are vulnerable without Bookers 40 point games .

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3830 on: April 20, 2022, 03:37:49 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.

I doubt PHX slots Shamet in for Booker. I would assume they'd start Cam Johnson in his place. The Pelicans' team size is a bit of an issue for PHX, and losing Book (even for two games) is obviously a huge blow. If the Pelicans can even split at home against a Book-less Phoenix, they guarantee at least a Game 6 home game. I assume PHX will overcome this issue, but it's certainly not looking like the easy series they anticipated at this point.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3831 on: April 20, 2022, 03:56:50 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.

I doubt PHX slots Shamet in for Booker. I would assume they'd start Cam Johnson in his place. The Pelicans' team size is a bit of an issue for PHX, and losing Book (even for two games) is obviously a huge blow. If the Pelicans can even split at home against a Book-less Phoenix, they guarantee at least a Game 6 home game. I assume PHX will overcome this issue, but it's certainly not looking like the easy series they anticipated at this point.

Don’t they need cam Johnson to back up bridges? If you start them both who backs up bridges? I don’t think you can play wainright or Jackson in a playoff game.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3832 on: April 20, 2022, 04:26:07 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.
Booker to Shamet is a big drop off but Shamet is a legitimate NBA caliber player who averages 20min per game.  Haven't seen Cousins play but his numbers in 14min seem pretty decent. 
Unless Giannis has a real bum backing him up (by that I mean an actual bum off the streets), I don't see how there is a bigger drop off than Embiid to Jordan.  The drop off is massive both offensively and defensively.  Jordan should at best be a 15th man on a roster as a favor for an agent.  The fact that Doc is playing Reed, a 2nd year pick 58 player, over Jordan in the playoffs says it all. 

Why absolute chaos?  Pretty much everyone seemed to be picking the Suns and GSW in the WCF.  If Suns lose, that would seem to roll the red carpet out for GSW to the finals. 

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3833 on: April 20, 2022, 04:45:19 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.
Booker to Shamet is a big drop off but Shamet is a legitimate NBA caliber player who averages 20min per game.  Haven't seen Cousins play but his numbers in 14min seem pretty decent. 
Unless Giannis has a real bum backing him up (by that I mean an actual bum off the streets), I don't see how there is a bigger drop off than Embiid to Jordan.  The drop off is massive both offensively and defensively.  Jordan should at best be a 15th man on a roster as a favor for an agent.  The fact that Doc is playing Reed, a 2nd year pick 58 player, over Jordan in the playoffs says it all. 

Why absolute chaos?  Pretty much everyone seemed to be picking the Suns and GSW in the WCF.  If Suns lose, that would seem to roll the red carpet out for GSW to the finals.

Not if Memphis gets in their way. They just steamrolled the Wolves last night.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3834 on: April 20, 2022, 04:51:32 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.
Booker to Shamet is a big drop off but Shamet is a legitimate NBA caliber player who averages 20min per game.  Haven't seen Cousins play but his numbers in 14min seem pretty decent. 
Unless Giannis has a real bum backing him up (by that I mean an actual bum off the streets), I don't see how there is a bigger drop off than Embiid to Jordan.  The drop off is massive both offensively and defensively.  Jordan should at best be a 15th man on a roster as a favor for an agent.  The fact that Doc is playing Reed, a 2nd year pick 58 player, over Jordan in the playoffs says it all. 

Why absolute chaos?  Pretty much everyone seemed to be picking the Suns and GSW in the WCF.  If Suns lose, that would seem to roll the red carpet out for GSW to the finals.

Not if Memphis gets in their way. They just steamrolled the Wolves last night.
I've got my fingers crossed for the Grizz to make the finals but the TWolves aren't a particularly good team. 

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3835 on: April 20, 2022, 06:36:08 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.
Booker to Shamet is a big drop off but Shamet is a legitimate NBA caliber player who averages 20min per game.  Haven't seen Cousins play but his numbers in 14min seem pretty decent. 
Unless Giannis has a real bum backing him up (by that I mean an actual bum off the streets), I don't see how there is a bigger drop off than Embiid to Jordan.  The drop off is massive both offensively and defensively.  Jordan should at best be a 15th man on a roster as a favor for an agent.  The fact that Doc is playing Reed, a 2nd year pick 58 player, over Jordan in the playoffs says it all. 

Why absolute chaos?  Pretty much everyone seemed to be picking the Suns and GSW in the WCF.  If Suns lose, that would seem to roll the red carpet out for GSW to the finals.

Not if Memphis gets in their way. They just steamrolled the Wolves last night.
I've got my fingers crossed for the Grizz to make the finals but the TWolves aren't a particularly good team.

How are they going to make it to the finals when they are 1-1 in a series against the TWolves who you just said aren’t particularly good.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3836 on: April 20, 2022, 06:37:52 PM »

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Phoenix really ought to be capable of beating New Orleans with or without Booker. If they can't it is a real indictment
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« Reply #3837 on: April 20, 2022, 06:57:42 PM »

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Phoenix really ought to be capable of beating New Orleans with or without Booker. If they can't it is a real indictment

I think they are overrated, TBH. If all teams are healthy, I have them behind the Warriors, Clippers and probably the Nuggets in West.  I’d take the C’s(obviously), Bucks, Nets, and 76ers over them in a series as well.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3838 on: April 20, 2022, 06:57:51 PM »

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Booker unlikely to play Games 3 and 4 against the Pelicans according to Woj

This might end up being a 6 or even 7 game series. Pelicans have the momentum and for the next two games, a slight advantage probably

This is really a huge boost for the pelicans. I think part of the reason Paul has been so good since he got to Phoenix is because of how much of an offensive load Booker takes off him. Worse, the drop off from Booker to Landry shamet has to be one of the biggest in the league right up there with jokic to cousins or Embid to deandre Jordan. If the suns really struggle without Booker and lose this series it will create absolute chaos. On a funny side note this has to make the lakers kick themselves even more for missing playin.
Booker to Shamet is a big drop off but Shamet is a legitimate NBA caliber player who averages 20min per game.  Haven't seen Cousins play but his numbers in 14min seem pretty decent. 
Unless Giannis has a real bum backing him up (by that I mean an actual bum off the streets), I don't see how there is a bigger drop off than Embiid to Jordan.  The drop off is massive both offensively and defensively.  Jordan should at best be a 15th man on a roster as a favor for an agent.  The fact that Doc is playing Reed, a 2nd year pick 58 player, over Jordan in the playoffs says it all. 

Why absolute chaos?  Pretty much everyone seemed to be picking the Suns and GSW in the WCF.  If Suns lose, that would seem to roll the red carpet out for GSW to the finals.

Not if Memphis gets in their way. They just steamrolled the Wolves last night.
I've got my fingers crossed for the Grizz to make the finals but the TWolves aren't a particularly good team.

How are they going to make it to the finals when they are 1-1 in a series against the TWolves who you just said aren’t particularly good.
Losing a game in a series doesn't mean anything.  In 2008, the 1st two series against the 37 win Hawks and 45 win Cavs both went 7 games with the home team winning each game.  Didn't stop the Celts from winning the championship.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3839 on: April 20, 2022, 07:01:17 PM »

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Phoenix really ought to be capable of beating New Orleans with or without Booker. If they can't it is a real indictment

I think they are overrated, TBH. If all teams are healthy, I have them behind the Warriors, Clippers and probably the Nuggets in West.  I’d take the C’s(obviously), Bucks, Nets, and 76ers over them in a series as well.
Nuggets???  That does not compute.