NBA Season 2021-22

[SHAQATTACK]

If Doc doesn’t get Philly though a couple rounds or to East finals ,  I look for him to loose his job.

I agree with this, if they lose in first round he is gone. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Harden jet to a different team if they lose in the first round. Pretty huge series for them, and they really could use Thybulle in Toronto and also will greatly miss Drummond for the ten minutes Embid has to sit. Jordan has been cooked for several years and it is unclear why he is still in the league.

Where is Harden going to go?  I can't think of a better pairing for him than Embiid and they seem to be getting along pretty well.  The Sixers really needed Harden to pick up his option.  Harden isn't worth his true Max but it would be hard for them to offer him anything less.  I expect Drummond would have been a negative in the playoffs but much less so than Jordan.  Milsap is toast too.  The Libertyballer crowd want Reed to be the backup but I'd be surprised if Doc goes with him.

I’d rather have Vogel than Doc if I were Philly .   But , I’m not encouraging Philly , because I think he would be a good coach there .

[jambr380]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

[mef730]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

I think you're right. As soon as GS called, it was academic.

So why bother? Well, some people will do anything to meet Tom Brady...

Mike

[pokeKingCurtis]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

[Moranis]

If Doc doesn’t get Philly though a couple rounds or to East finals ,  I look for him to loose his job.

I agree with this, if they lose in first round he is gone. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Harden jet to a different team if they lose in the first round. Pretty huge series for them, and they really could use Thybulle in Toronto and also will greatly miss Drummond for the ten minutes Embid has to sit. Jordan has been cooked for several years and it is unclear why he is still in the league.

Where is Harden going to go?  I can't think of a better pairing for him than Embiid and they seem to be getting along pretty well.  The Sixers really needed Harden to pick up his option.  Harden isn't worth his true Max but it would be hard for them to offer him anything less.  I expect Drummond would have been a negative in the playoffs but much less so than Jordan.  Milsap is toast too.  The Libertyballer crowd want Reed to be the backup but I'd be surprised if Doc goes with him.

I’d rather have Vogel than Doc if I were Philly .   But , I’m not encouraging Philly , because I think he would be a good coach there .

well sure, I'd rather have a chair than Doc, but Vogel is not the right coach for the strengths of Embiid and Harden, just as he wasn't in LA last year.  Vogel needs a gritty defensive oriented team to be successful.  That is what he had in Indiana and that is what he had the bubble year with LA. 

[Vermont Green]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

This is exactly it.  Every team has their draft hits and misses.  In the end though, we currently have a title contending team, actually the favorite per 538 for what that is worth, and the team was built largely through the draft.  8 of our top 10 players were drafted or "discovered" and brought to the NBA as undrafted free agent (Theis).  Tatum, Brown, Smart, RWill, GWill, Pritchard, Nesmith, and Theis (with asterisk).  Then we added White and Horford.

Sure, getting to this point we had some misses (Giannis comes to mind) but I think any team would take our drafting record.  Next year, we may be adding Begarin to the list (I hope).  I understand that Begarin had shooting issues this past season in France but he is an NBA athlete already at age 19.  I am probably a little ahead of myself on Begarin but I am hopeful.

[Goldstar88]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

I just hope the C’s stay away from drafting overseas players in the first round for the most part. When is the last time the C’s drafted a player from overseas that has worked out?

[Moranis]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

I just hope the C’s stay away from drafting overseas players in the first round for the most part. When is the last time the C’s drafted a player from overseas that has worked out?

How many have they actually drafted in the 1st round though?  Think it is just Yabu and Zizic.  2nd rounders we have what Begarin, Mader, and Erden.  For the last pick of the draft Erden worked out well and Begarin and Mader haven't come over yet so who knows.  Zizic was an asset included in a trade so he was fine from a value standpoint. 

[Goldstar88]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

I just hope the C’s stay away from drafting overseas players in the first round for the most part. When is the last time the C’s drafted a player from overseas that has worked out?

How many have they actually drafted in the 1st round though?  Think it is just Yabu and Zizic.  2nd rounders we have what Begarin, Mader, and Erden.  For the last pick of the draft Erden worked out well and Begarin and Mader haven't come over yet so who knows.  Zizic was an asset included in a trade so he was fine from a value standpoint.

 Not sure, but not one of them turned out to be even a useful bench player.

[Roy H.]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

I just hope the C’s stay away from drafting overseas players in the first round for the most part. When is the last time the C’s drafted a player from overseas that has worked out?

How many have they actually drafted in the 1st round though?  Think it is just Yabu and Zizic.  2nd rounders we have what Begarin, Mader, and Erden.  For the last pick of the draft Erden worked out well and Begarin and Mader haven't come over yet so who knows.  Zizic was an asset included in a trade so he was fine from a value standpoint.

 Not sure, but not one of them turned out to be even a useful bench player.

Dino!  (A second rounder, obviously.)

And of course, the most consequential passed over pick of all time, Giannis.

[Moranis]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

I just hope the C’s stay away from drafting overseas players in the first round for the most part. When is the last time the C’s drafted a player from overseas that has worked out?

How many have they actually drafted in the 1st round though?  Think it is just Yabu and Zizic.  2nd rounders we have what Begarin, Mader, and Erden.  For the last pick of the draft Erden worked out well and Begarin and Mader haven't come over yet so who knows.  Zizic was an asset included in a trade so he was fine from a value standpoint.

 Not sure, but not one of them turned out to be even a useful bench player.

It is 2 players, 1 of which was value added in a trade.  So 1 bust, 1 useful asset.  That isn't terrible.  It isn't like Boston has drafted 10 European 1st rounders and not 1 has worked out.  It is 2 guys with mixed results. 

There were some other 2nd rounders going back further i.e. Ben Pepper (55th pick in 97), Andrei Fetisov (36th pick in 94), and Panagiotis Giannakis (205th pick in 82 - round 9) none of which came to the NBA and of course Dino Radja who was quite successful as 2nd round picks go (40th pick in 89).

Boston has taken exactly 2 foreign players in the 1st round (and 2 high schoolers - so just 4 non-college players in the 1st round in their entire history).  Not nearly a large enough sample to draw conclusions at all.

[footey]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

I just hope the C’s stay away from drafting overseas players in the first round for the most part. When is the last time the C’s drafted a player from overseas that has worked out?

How many have they actually drafted in the 1st round though?  Think it is just Yabu and Zizic.  2nd rounders we have what Begarin, Mader, and Erden.  For the last pick of the draft Erden worked out well and Begarin and Mader haven't come over yet so who knows.  Zizic was an asset included in a trade so he was fine from a value standpoint.

 Not sure, but not one of them turned out to be even a useful bench player.

Yabu has turned himself into a decent player in Europe. I think he eventually makes it back to the NBA. Sometimes guys take longer to develop. Especially big guys.

[Celtics2021]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

I just hope the C’s stay away from drafting overseas players in the first round for the most part. When is the last time the C’s drafted a player from overseas that has worked out?

How many have they actually drafted in the 1st round though?  Think it is just Yabu and Zizic.  2nd rounders we have what Begarin, Mader, and Erden.  For the last pick of the draft Erden worked out well and Begarin and Mader haven't come over yet so who knows.  Zizic was an asset included in a trade so he was fine from a value standpoint.

 Not sure, but not one of them turned out to be even a useful bench player.

Yabu has turned himself into a decent player in Europe. I think he eventually makes it back to the NBA. Sometimes guys take longer to develop. Especially big guys.

Stevens has brought back several players he’s had in the past.  I wonder if Yabu will ever be on that list.

[Big333223]

If Doc doesn’t get Philly though a couple rounds or to East finals ,  I look for him to loose his job.

I agree with this, if they lose in first round he is gone. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Harden jet to a different team if they lose in the first round. Pretty huge series for them, and they really could use Thybulle in Toronto and also will greatly miss Drummond for the ten minutes Embid has to sit. Jordan has been cooked for several years and it is unclear why he is still in the league.

Where is Harden going to go?  I can't think of a better pairing for him than Embiid and they seem to be getting along pretty well.  The Sixers really needed Harden to pick up his option.  Harden isn't worth his true Max but it would be hard for them to offer him anything less.  I expect Drummond would have been a negative in the playoffs but much less so than Jordan.  Milsap is toast too.  The Libertyballer crowd want Reed to be the backup but I'd be surprised if Doc goes with him.

I’d rather have Vogel than Doc if I were Philly .   But , I’m not encouraging Philly , because I think he would be a good coach there .

Coach swap?

[celticsclay]

BAAAANNNNEEEEE!!!!!

"7. They found one of the biggest steals of the 2020 draft

Most NBA teams didn't think Desmond Bane had a lot of upside after playing all four seasons in college, a rarity these days for draft prospects. The Grizzlies noted that Bane got significantly better each year at TCU and projected that development to continue. Bane, who played in summer league last year despite being a second-team All-Rookie selection, has emerged as a primary offensive option and a major reason Memphis went 20-5 when Morant wasn't available.""

Big miss.  Not as big as Giannis or Tony  :-XParker, and I'm sure many others.  But despite the miss, SO not worth reliving every week.  Bane obviously projects to having a very good career at this point and C's would be deeper if they had him.  Would also be less deep if they'd taken Markell Fultz and Kris Dunn.   

Back when the C's were struggling to maintain .500 the miss on Bane was painful. Now, no big deal at all -- this team is looking pretty darn good without him.

Yabuselle, AKA: Dancing Bear at 16, over Pascal Siakam. Worst part is the Celtics even invited him to Boston for a private workout and they opted to go with the Yabu. 

If Durant had signed with the max cap space drafting Yabu over Siakam generated, no one would care about Yabu.

I don’t think Durant was ever coming to Boston. That has nothing to do with taking Yabu at 16, anyway.

Wasn't the deal that Yabu stayed overseas, thus giving us max space which we were aiming at Durant? I think we only took Yabu because he was a certain draft and stash.

I remember his awkward interview with I think Molly Mcgrath, with him saying that he is very willing to be stashed

It's crazy that for years we had all these 1st round picks that Ainge was unable to trade for future picks; but then the one year we trade ours (2021), OKC immediately and casually trades it for two future 1sts to HOU. That is just bad luck on Ainge's part.

And the time he actually did trade a pick (#30 for two future 2nds), the other team ends up selecting Bane, and it's the only thing we hear about in life anymore.

As I understand it, Yabu is actually doing well in Europe now. Showed up in the Olympics for sure

It's just karma, I guess, lol. can't fleece the nets and hoard even more firsts on top of that, AND hit on Isaiah Thomas, without some bad luck coming back our way.

Yeah I feel like he has been a key player for Real Madrid which has and plays against a lot of nba caliber players. Some of these guys make more money over there than risking the g league here.