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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3000 on: April 06, 2022, 11:20:26 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3001 on: April 06, 2022, 12:36:39 PM »

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This is good.

https://twitter.com/LakerFan9888102/status/1511565599343742976

Poor Lakers...

I love it

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and that’s what happens when you let the players be the GM. They got what they deserved.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3002 on: April 06, 2022, 12:46:14 PM »

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This is good.

https://twitter.com/LakerFan9888102/status/1511565599343742976

Poor Lakers...

I love it

 ;D

Enjoyed this immensely. It wasn't just that they were bad, it was that they were so arrogant before and through much of the season.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3003 on: April 06, 2022, 01:07:47 PM »

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I will just say one thing regarding the Lakers and the performance of their GM (LeBron).

He was actually a good GM when he got Davis to the team and they won a championship.  I think what happened though is that went to everyone's head and they just let LeBron keep doing it.  Then Westbrook happened.  Then Davis started getting hurt.  Then Lebron started to wear down.  Now all the sudden being a GM wasn't so easy.

A lot of people seem to be really relishing in all of this.  To me, the Lakers aren't even the Lakers anymore.  They are the team that LeBron is running, not the team that used to play the Celtics in the finals all the time.  The rivalry does not feel anything close to what it once did.  I don't care any more about the Lakers than I do the Trailblazers.  That may change when LeBron is gone, I don't know.  It is too bad really.  Having the Lakers be the Lakers is good for the NBA.

The Lakers are out.  The Celtics very much still in.  I am far more concerned about the latter than the former. 

The Celtics still have some work to do.  Let's get to it.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3004 on: April 06, 2022, 01:28:47 PM »

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Big blow to the Bulls…

Bulls officially rule Lonzo Ball out for the remainder of the season.

Jeff Zillgitt: Bulls make it official and rule out Lonzo Ball (left knee) for the remainder of the season, playoffs included. pic.twitter.com/jSIdqCU8FT – via Twitter JeffZillgitt
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3005 on: April 06, 2022, 01:30:01 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3006 on: April 06, 2022, 01:31:05 PM »

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Big blow to the Bulls…

Bulls officially rule Lonzo Ball out for the remainder of the season.

Jeff Zillgitt: Bulls make it official and rule out Lonzo Ball (left knee) for the remainder of the season, playoffs included. pic.twitter.com/jSIdqCU8FT – via Twitter JeffZillgitt


Yeah, they're screwed.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3007 on: April 06, 2022, 01:41:33 PM »

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Anyone want to start a pool for when we get the Windhorst/Shelburne Lebron PR-friendly, blame deflecting piece detailing what went wrong in LA?

12 hours in advance of Vogel being fired.  If Pelinka is mentioned, then expect him to be gone also.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3008 on: April 06, 2022, 02:19:51 PM »

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So LeBron is officially done as de facto GM and Coach now right?  (Though maybe he was already done when Pelinka didn't make the moves LeBron wanted at the deadline.)

You cater to LeBron when he can single-handedly win you games, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore (25-31 record in games he played).

I don't think the Lakers would do it, but I don't think he's above being traded against his will right now.

He still has some All-Star years left in him, but he's just a player now, don't think he still has the juice to call all the shots, make demands, hold a franchise hostage, etc.  He had a great run though.

Hopefully the decline of Klutch too.

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3009 on: April 06, 2022, 02:24:37 PM »

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Some good stuff here (if you can follow along)

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Oh no.

There’s a tiebreaker scenario for 2-3-4 in the East that goes to record vs. conference playoff opponents between Milwaukee and Boston and I don’t know if that means top 6 or the final top 8 after the play-in.

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Update on this: confirmed with league it’s record vs. all playoff eligible teams, so the top 10.

Boston wins that tiebreaker.

So either Boston wins tomorrow (clinched head to head tiebreaker) or Milwaukee wins, the two tie for conf rec, and Boston wins 5th tiebreaker.
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So Bucks win out: 2-seed
Celtics win out: 2-seed
Sixers win out: 3rd seed, 2nd seed if BOTH Bucks and Celtics go 2-1.
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Any Celtics-Sixers tie, tie goes to Celtics. Any Bucks-Sixers tie, tie goes to Bucks. Three-way tie goes to Celtics, then Bucks, then Sixers.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3010 on: April 06, 2022, 02:31:21 PM »

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So LeBron is officially done as de facto GM and Coach now right?  (Though maybe he was already done when Pelinka didn't make the moves LeBron wanted at the deadline.)

You cater to LeBron when he can single-handedly win you games, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore (25-31 record in games he played).

I don't think the Lakers would do it, but I don't think he's above being traded against his will right now.

He still has some All-Star years left in him, but he's just a player now, don't think he still has the juice to call all the shots, make demands, hold a franchise hostage, etc.  He had a great run though.

Hopefully the decline of Klutch too.

I didn't think the Lakers would consider trading him until about a week ago when Lakers legends and Magic Johnson and Kareem publicly called him out (Kareem later apologized as his attack was basically personal). That hasn't happened before on a team he has been on (Riley and Gilbert obviously said some stuff after he left). I also think some of Lebron's antics like praising other gms at the all-star break and leaking stories that Klutch didn't get along with Laker's front office did not have the pull they would have had earlier in his career (and Klutch later walked back that story). It is his first time he is on a team where he is not bigger then the franchise whereas Cleveland and Miami would not have considered dumping him in a million years. There will be a lot of money made off him setting the alltime scoring mark next year, but I think that may actually be more important on a different franchise than it would the Lakers. If you follow any of the lakers forums or tweets from Lakers account he is definitely not beloved like other Lakers. Many view him as a stat chasing hired gun. I think if he sets the mark in LA it will be the place he would get one of the most tepid receptions.

The real question is what would he gather in a trade. There hasn't been someone traded in Lebron's position in modern times, ICON still an all-star but no longer an MVP candidate. I was surprised to find out Lebron does not have a no trade clause. I do think he would like the fanfare that would go along with getting a title with a 4th team and to a franchise without much recent success. Maybe the Knicks are one of the only teams I could see it happening. (or he could be ridiculous and go to chicago).

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3011 on: April 06, 2022, 04:49:28 PM »

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From the Ringer.

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Greatest Underachievers Among Teams Projected to Win 50-Plus Games

Team   Over/Under   Wins   Difference

2022 Lakers   52.5   31 to 34   -18.5 to -21.5
2006 Rockets   53.0   34   -19.0
2008 Bulls   50.5   33   -17.5
2016 Rockets   56.5   41   -15.5
2022 Nets   56.5   41 to 44   -12.5 to -15.5
2013 Lakers   58.5   45   -13.5
2014 Knicks   50.0   37   -13.0
2005 Timberwolves   55.5   44   -11.5
2006 Pacers   52.5   41   -11.5
2009 Pistons   50.5   39   -11.5

Among teams since 1999-00. Data via Basketball-Reference.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3012 on: April 06, 2022, 04:55:31 PM »

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From the Ringer.

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Greatest Underachievers Among Teams Projected to Win 50-Plus Games

Team   Over/Under   Wins   Difference

2022 Lakers   52.5   31 to 34   -18.5 to -21.5
2006 Rockets   53.0   34   -19.0
2008 Bulls   50.5   33   -17.5
2016 Rockets   56.5   41   -15.5
2022 Nets   56.5   41 to 44   -12.5 to -15.5
2013 Lakers   58.5   45   -13.5
2014 Knicks   50.0   37   -13.0
2005 Timberwolves   55.5   44   -11.5
2006 Pacers   52.5   41   -11.5
2009 Pistons   50.5   39   -11.5

Among teams since 1999-00. Data via Basketball-Reference.


I’ve been selling hard on the Lakers.  There’s no easy (read: 100% legal so I don’t lose my government job) way for me to put a decent sum of money on the under for the Lakers win total this year, while living in Mass, is there?

Man I wish I’d figured out how to place this bet.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3013 on: April 06, 2022, 04:58:38 PM »

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From the Ringer.

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Greatest Underachievers Among Teams Projected to Win 50-Plus Games

Team   Over/Under   Wins   Difference

2022 Lakers   52.5   31 to 34   -18.5 to -21.5
2006 Rockets   53.0   34   -19.0
2008 Bulls   50.5   33   -17.5
2016 Rockets   56.5   41   -15.5
2022 Nets   56.5   41 to 44   -12.5 to -15.5
2013 Lakers   58.5   45   -13.5
2014 Knicks   50.0   37   -13.0
2005 Timberwolves   55.5   44   -11.5
2006 Pacers   52.5   41   -11.5
2009 Pistons   50.5   39   -11.5

Among teams since 1999-00. Data via Basketball-Reference.


I’ve been selling hard on the Lakers.  There’s no easy (read: 100% legal so I don’t lose my government job) way for me to put a decent sum of money on the under for the Lakers win total this year, while living in Mass, is there?

Man I wish I’d figured out how to place this bet.

You also could've got them at 16-1 to miss the playoffs. 


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« Reply #3014 on: April 06, 2022, 05:00:47 PM »

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From the Ringer.

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Greatest Underachievers Among Teams Projected to Win 50-Plus Games

Team   Over/Under   Wins   Difference

2022 Lakers   52.5   31 to 34   -18.5 to -21.5
2006 Rockets   53.0   34   -19.0
2008 Bulls   50.5   33   -17.5
2016 Rockets   56.5   41   -15.5
2022 Nets   56.5   41 to 44   -12.5 to -15.5
2013 Lakers   58.5   45   -13.5
2014 Knicks   50.0   37   -13.0
2005 Timberwolves   55.5   44   -11.5
2006 Pacers   52.5   41   -11.5
2009 Pistons   50.5   39   -11.5

Among teams since 1999-00. Data via Basketball-Reference.

Glad to see the 2019 Celtics didn't make that list.

Looks like they were only -10.

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