NBA Season 2021-22

[nickagneta]

I've always liked Draymond. I love his game, well, except the dirty stuff. He is tough, physical, smart, a great passer and bordering on all-time defender. He is the ultimate glue guy. I would have no issue with Draymond being a Celtic. I am sure Warrior fans feel the same way about Green as we Celtic fans do Smart

And yeah, I think Reddick hit it on the nose that the Draymond hate has a lot of racial undertones embedded into it.

[Donoghus]

JJ Reddick doing a great job cutting through the nonsense on ESPN
https://mobile.twitter.com/complexsports/status/1521891853905268736?s=21&t=9P-BrI_aqPr2exjz3Aebcg

I can’t give Redick a TP, so I’m giving you one for the share.

Also, who was the dude who Redick made look like an idiot?  Never seen or heard him before.

Chris Russo.   The Mad Dog that was part of "Mike & the Mad Dog" on WFAN.

[Vermont Green]

I've always liked Draymond. I love his game, well, except the dirty stuff. He is tough, physical, smart, a great passer and bordering on all-time defender. He is the ultimate glue guy. I would have no issue with Draymond being a Celtic. I am sure Warrior fans feel the same way about Green as we Celtic fans do Smart

And yeah, I think Reddick hit it on the nose that the Draymond hate has a lot of racial undertones embedded into it.

Reddick referred to Draymond Green as future hall of famer.  That seems like quite a stretch.  Green is a polarizing player due to the bad (his sometimes dirty play, his antics) and also the good (his contribution to his team's success).  I think there is some truth in both sides of this.  I find Draymond to be a good but overrated player purely based on what he does on the court.  But I will also concede that race may play a factor in how people respond to his "antics".   It is hard for me to judge what someone else is thinking but I am very much old school and I find Draymond to be mouthy and dirty as a player, and I am critical of that.  Bill Laimbeer was hated and he wasn't quite as dirty or nearly as mouthy.

When I hear him talk on the TV, out of the heat of the battle, I find him to be intelligent and genuine.  I applaud that but I am critical of his antics.

[Donoghus]

I've always liked Draymond. I love his game, well, except the dirty stuff. He is tough, physical, smart, a great passer and bordering on all-time defender. He is the ultimate glue guy. I would have no issue with Draymond being a Celtic. I am sure Warrior fans feel the same way about Green as we Celtic fans do Smart

And yeah, I think Reddick hit it on the nose that the Draymond hate has a lot of racial undertones embedded into it.

Reddick referred to Draymond Green as future hall of famer.  That seems like quite a stretch.  Green is a polarizing player due to the bad (his sometimes dirty play, his antics) and also the good (his contribution to his team's success).  I think there is some truth in both sides of this.  I find Draymond to be a good but overrated player purely based on what he does on the court.  But I will also concede that race may play a factor in how people respond to his "antics".   It is hard for me to judge what someone else is thinking but I am very much old school and I find Draymond to be mouthy and dirty as a player, and I am critical of that.  Bill Laimbeer was hated and he wasn't quite as dirty or nearly as mouthy.

When I hear him talk on the TV, out of the heat of the battle, I find him to be intelligent and genuine.  I applaud that but I am critical of his antics.

He'll be in the HOF.  His resume is already pretty impressive and when you factor in that the basketball hall of fame is more like a hall of really good, he'll be in there.  Especially when stacked up against some of the others who are already in there. The championships are going to help his cause. 

FWIW, his HOF probability is around 60%.

[Moranis]

I've always liked Draymond. I love his game, well, except the dirty stuff. He is tough, physical, smart, a great passer and bordering on all-time defender. He is the ultimate glue guy. I would have no issue with Draymond being a Celtic. I am sure Warrior fans feel the same way about Green as we Celtic fans do Smart

And yeah, I think Reddick hit it on the nose that the Draymond hate has a lot of racial undertones embedded into it.

Reddick referred to Draymond Green as future hall of famer.  That seems like quite a stretch.  Green is a polarizing player due to the bad (his sometimes dirty play, his antics) and also the good (his contribution to his team's success).  I think there is some truth in both sides of this.  I find Draymond to be a good but overrated player purely based on what he does on the court.  But I will also concede that race may play a factor in how people respond to his "antics".   It is hard for me to judge what someone else is thinking but I am very much old school and I find Draymond to be mouthy and dirty as a player, and I am critical of that.  Bill Laimbeer was hated and he wasn't quite as dirty or nearly as mouthy.

When I hear him talk on the TV, out of the heat of the battle, I find him to be intelligent and genuine.  I applaud that but I am critical of his antics.

He'll be in the HOF.  His resume is already pretty impressive and when you factor in that the basketball hall of fame is more like a hall of really good, he'll be in there.  Especially when stacked up against some of the others who are already in there. The championships are going to help his cause. 

FWIW, his HOF probability is around 60%.

Ben Wallace isn't in the HOF.  He had a higher and more impactful peak than Draymond and is more individually decorated.  As far as the championships, Draymond was the 3rd or 4th best player on ever title team he was on.  I'm not sure how much sway that will really hold. 

[Celtics2021]

I've always liked Draymond. I love his game, well, except the dirty stuff. He is tough, physical, smart, a great passer and bordering on all-time defender. He is the ultimate glue guy. I would have no issue with Draymond being a Celtic. I am sure Warrior fans feel the same way about Green as we Celtic fans do Smart

And yeah, I think Reddick hit it on the nose that the Draymond hate has a lot of racial undertones embedded into it.

Reddick referred to Draymond Green as future hall of famer.  That seems like quite a stretch.  Green is a polarizing player due to the bad (his sometimes dirty play, his antics) and also the good (his contribution to his team's success).  I think there is some truth in both sides of this.  I find Draymond to be a good but overrated player purely based on what he does on the court.  But I will also concede that race may play a factor in how people respond to his "antics".   It is hard for me to judge what someone else is thinking but I am very much old school and I find Draymond to be mouthy and dirty as a player, and I am critical of that.  Bill Laimbeer was hated and he wasn't quite as dirty or nearly as mouthy.

When I hear him talk on the TV, out of the heat of the battle, I find him to be intelligent and genuine.  I applaud that but I am critical of his antics.

He'll be in the HOF.  His resume is already pretty impressive and when you factor in that the basketball hall of fame is more like a hall of really good, he'll be in there.  Especially when stacked up against some of the others who are already in there. The championships are going to help his cause. 

FWIW, his HOF probability is around 60%.

Ben Wallace isn't in the HOF.  He had a higher and more impactful peak than Draymond and is more individually decorated.

Ben Wallace is, in fact, in the Hall of Fame.

https://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/ben-wallace/

[Donoghus]

I've always liked Draymond. I love his game, well, except the dirty stuff. He is tough, physical, smart, a great passer and bordering on all-time defender. He is the ultimate glue guy. I would have no issue with Draymond being a Celtic. I am sure Warrior fans feel the same way about Green as we Celtic fans do Smart

And yeah, I think Reddick hit it on the nose that the Draymond hate has a lot of racial undertones embedded into it.

Reddick referred to Draymond Green as future hall of famer.  That seems like quite a stretch.  Green is a polarizing player due to the bad (his sometimes dirty play, his antics) and also the good (his contribution to his team's success).  I think there is some truth in both sides of this.  I find Draymond to be a good but overrated player purely based on what he does on the court.  But I will also concede that race may play a factor in how people respond to his "antics".   It is hard for me to judge what someone else is thinking but I am very much old school and I find Draymond to be mouthy and dirty as a player, and I am critical of that.  Bill Laimbeer was hated and he wasn't quite as dirty or nearly as mouthy.

When I hear him talk on the TV, out of the heat of the battle, I find him to be intelligent and genuine.  I applaud that but I am critical of his antics.

He'll be in the HOF.  His resume is already pretty impressive and when you factor in that the basketball hall of fame is more like a hall of really good, he'll be in there.  Especially when stacked up against some of the others who are already in there. The championships are going to help his cause. 

FWIW, his HOF probability is around 60%.

Ben Wallace isn't in the HOF.  He had a higher and more impactful peak than Draymond and is more individually decorated.  As far as the championships, Draymond was the 3rd or 4th best player on ever title team he was on.  I'm not sure how much sway that will really hold.

Ben Wallace is in the hall of fame.

Want to try again?

[Kiorrik]

JJ Reddick doing a great job cutting through the nonsense on ESPN
https://mobile.twitter.com/complexsports/status/1521891853905268736?s=21&t=9P-BrI_aqPr2exjz3Aebcg

I've always despised Reddick but he did a helluva job here.  Good stuff by him.

Dudes, his podcast is absolutely amazing and I love the guy's efforts to bring solid content outside of the idiotic talking heads on all the old media.

Highly recommend finding an episode with a player you love:

https://www.youtube.com/c/JJRedick

[gouki88]

JJ Reddick doing a great job cutting through the nonsense on ESPN
https://mobile.twitter.com/complexsports/status/1521891853905268736?s=21&t=9P-BrI_aqPr2exjz3Aebcg

I've always despised Reddick but he did a helluva job here.  Good stuff by him.

If you want to go back to despising him, watch his recent take on Bob Cousy

JJ Reddick doing a great job cutting through the nonsense on ESPN
https://mobile.twitter.com/complexsports/status/1521891853905268736?s=21&t=9P-BrI_aqPr2exjz3Aebcg

I can’t give Redick a TP, so I’m giving you one for the share.

Also, who was the dude who Redick made look like an idiot?  Never seen or heard him before.

He's the new Skip Bayless type. Just out there to be an old white guy saying nonsense

[gouki88]

I've always liked Draymond. I love his game, well, except the dirty stuff. He is tough, physical, smart, a great passer and bordering on all-time defender. He is the ultimate glue guy. I would have no issue with Draymond being a Celtic. I am sure Warrior fans feel the same way about Green as we Celtic fans do Smart

And yeah, I think Reddick hit it on the nose that the Draymond hate has a lot of racial undertones embedded into it.

Reddick referred to Draymond Green as future hall of famer.  That seems like quite a stretch.  Green is a polarizing player due to the bad (his sometimes dirty play, his antics) and also the good (his contribution to his team's success).  I think there is some truth in both sides of this.  I find Draymond to be a good but overrated player purely based on what he does on the court.  But I will also concede that race may play a factor in how people respond to his "antics".   It is hard for me to judge what someone else is thinking but I am very much old school and I find Draymond to be mouthy and dirty as a player, and I am critical of that.  Bill Laimbeer was hated and he wasn't quite as dirty or nearly as mouthy.

When I hear him talk on the TV, out of the heat of the battle, I find him to be intelligent and genuine.  I applaud that but I am critical of his antics.

He'll be in the HOF.  His resume is already pretty impressive and when you factor in that the basketball hall of fame is more like a hall of really good, he'll be in there.  Especially when stacked up against some of the others who are already in there. The championships are going to help his cause. 

FWIW, his HOF probability is around 60%.

Ben Wallace isn't in the HOF.  He had a higher and more impactful peak than Draymond and is more individually decorated.

Ben Wallace is, in fact, in the Hall of Fame.

https://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/ben-wallace/

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[gouki88]

DeAndre Jordan with another start. LOL

[gouki88]

Also, as an aside - props to the in-Boston Celtics fans. That arena is constantly rocking these playoffs.

I'm prompted to write this because of this Miami crowd, which looks at about 60% capacity at the moment.

[nickagneta]

Also, as an aside - props to the in-Boston Celtics fans. That arena is constantly rocking these playoffs.

I'm prompted to write this because of this Miami crowd, which looks at about 60% capacity at the moment.

Miami is a horrible sports town. They have some of the worst attendance figures in hockey and baseball. They have a basketball crowd that's shows very late and bailed on their team by the thousands late in a tight Finals playoff game. Their football fans are good but those poor people haven't had a great team to cheer on in decades.

[Phantom255x]

It's amazing. Paul Reed plays aggressive but gets called by the refs often and ends up in foul trouble which typically is why he isn't able to play heavy minutes. BUT Giannis plays extra-aggressive and the refs just don't seem to care 

There's no doubt in my mind Giannis should be fouling out of a ton of games but the league doesn't want  that to happen. I could care less how strong he is and such, there's a completely different standard for him that frankly, I think it's even worse than Lebron which is saying something

[Kiorrik]

It's amazing. Paul Reed plays aggressive but gets called by the refs often and ends up in foul trouble which typically is why he isn't able to play heavy minutes. BUT Giannis plays extra-aggressive and the refs just don't seem to care 

There's no doubt in my mind Giannis should be fouling out of a ton of games but the league doesn't want  that to happen. I could care less how strong he is and such, there's a completely different standard for him that frankly, I think it's even worse than Lebron which is saying something

I'll drop it soon cuz talking about it is kinda weird but - this style of reffing is legit gonna make me not watch ball again for a while.

NBA's just become show-wrestling with prescripted winners.