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Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2021, 01:50:53 AM »

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It makes sense from a stability standpoint.  It might suggest that the Celts aren't aiming to make a big move at the trade deadline, but they'll maintain flexibility into next summer.

Wouldn’t Richardson have more trade value being under contract for another year at only $12M vs just being an expiring contract?

This.

And I can't wait until Romeo makes the haters eat it.

You can't wait for it, because it's not going to happen. 

Romeo is an undersized wing who has poor basketball IQ, a questionable motor, is always inured and has no visible NBA-level skills outside of defence.  He can't dribble, can't pass, can't run an offense, and thus far is one of the worst shooters I've ever seen at the guard spot.  He has failed to produce at an above average level even when playing against Summer League and G League competition. 

The writing is on the wall.  The guy is the most obvious bust I've seen on a Celtics roster since James Young (who people on this board had a similarly illogical obsession with).

Yup. To me, it don't matter if you have good defense. If you can't generate points or if your offense is terrible then you're no use on this team. Not to mention all of the other ballhandling features of his.


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Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2021, 02:09:17 AM »

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2022 free agency is expected to be slim pickings as far as players. Better to have tradeable contracts than cap space and better to sign your players to extensions than let them get bid up as UFAs or RFAs.

Doesn't have much to do with Langford.

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2021, 03:06:58 AM »

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Stevens assembled his ideal team and he’s committing to it. Since the Horford trade and timing of it, the moves have indicated his priority of assembling a roster of tenacious defenders to instill a strong defensive identity.

He’s not looking to chase the Nets firepower, he envisions breaking them down with waves of face guarding wings and Horford and TimeLord patrolling the paint. Good luck to all of the opposing perimeter players that will be hounded by pairings of Smart, Richardson, Schröder, Dunn, Langford, Brown, Tatum, and even Nesmith (if only because of his hustle).

A top 5 defense with 2 2-way top 20 scorers simultaneously entering their primes. If another team had the same setup, people might be pegging them as their dark horse candidates to win the East; instead there’s this “water treading season” outlook. Enjoy waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2021, 07:41:27 AM »

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Seeing all of these moves, it's too bad that Schroder is almost assuredly a goner (unless we can stay under the hard cap and he re-signs for the full MLE). The CBA is a funny thing - we can trade for a player making ~$17M while sending back no salary, but we are unable to apply that amount to a player on our very own team. I understand why the TPE was created, but, man this seems like an example where it could benefit the team and player.

As for Richardson, not a bad move to lock him up for another year. Good, young, MLE-level contract and he should play hard on both ends. If he really works out, it could make moving Smart a bit easier.

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2021, 08:37:04 AM »

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Seeing all of these moves, it's too bad that Schroder is almost assuredly a goner (unless we can stay under the hard cap and he re-signs for the full MLE). The CBA is a funny thing - we can trade for a player making ~$17M while sending back no salary, but we are unable to apply that amount to a player on our very own team. I understand why the TPE was created, but, man this seems like an example where it could benefit the team and player.

As for Richardson, not a bad move to lock him up for another year. Good, young, MLE-level contract and he should play hard on both ends. If he really works out, it could make moving Smart a bit easier.

You've got a great point there. It would be nice if there was an exception to allow you to manipulate a TPE to pay one of your own guys in certain situations.

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2021, 09:03:49 AM »

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Stevens assembled his ideal team and he’s committing to it. Since the Horford trade and timing of it, the moves have indicated his priority of assembling a roster of tenacious defenders to instill a strong defensive identity.

He’s not looking to chase the Nets firepower, he envisions breaking them down with waves of face guarding wings and Horford and TimeLord patrolling the paint. Good luck to all of the opposing perimeter players that will be hounded by pairings of Smart, Richardson, Schröder, Dunn, Langford, Brown, Tatum, and even Nesmith (if only because of his hustle).

A top 5 defense with 2 2-way top 20 scorers simultaneously entering their primes. If another team had the same setup, people might be pegging them as their dark horse candidates to win the East; instead there’s this “water treading season” outlook. Enjoy waiting for the other shoe to drop.

TP I love the positivity.  This team will go as far as their other scorers will take them.  If Richardson, Smart, Nesmith, PP, Schroeder prove they can score the ball then teams won't be able to focus just on the J's.  If TL can stay healthy then the PnR with Timelord will be a joy to watch because you cheat off of TL and it will be lob city all game long.  Lots to like with this team.  If Nesmith and PP can step up and hit the open shot it will help a ton.  That's the key.  Can the C's hit the open shot because there will be a lot with everyone defender focused on the J's.  I'm one that can't wait for this season. 

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2021, 09:14:28 AM »

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Seeing all of these moves, it's too bad that Schroder is almost assuredly a goner (unless we can stay under the hard cap and he re-signs for the full MLE). The CBA is a funny thing - we can trade for a player making ~$17M while sending back no salary, but we are unable to apply that amount to a player on our very own team. I understand why the TPE was created, but, man this seems like an example where it could benefit the team and player.

As for Richardson, not a bad move to lock him up for another year. Good, young, MLE-level contract and he should play hard on both ends. If he really works out, it could make moving Smart a bit easier.

Schröder has always been most likely a goner.  He was signing for one year to rehab his value and then get a big deal from a team with cap space.  The C’s weren’t ever likely to be a team to give him such a deal, because their cap space was either going to be for a max player or wasn’t going to be there.

That said, Schröder might last a little longer than you’d expect (and than he’d like).  There are only 6 teams with meaningful cap space next year — Orlando, OKC, Detroit, Memphis, San Antonio, and New Orleans.  Of those, only New Orleans might be in the market for a starting PG (and they will have Devonte Graham and a 3rd-year Kira Lewis Jr, so it’s possible they won’t be).  After that, it’s just teams with the MLE, which the C’s will also have.  The C’s will also have his non-Bird rights, which would permit them to offer a contract greater than the taxpayer MLE (but not the non-taxpayer MLE).  It’s not crazy to think that Schröder will need to let play it out for another season, and in that case the Celtics could be a viable option if it works out this year.

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2021, 09:28:49 AM »

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I am surprised by this, but I like it.  We now have Richardson at 2 years and about $24M to replace Fournier who will be paid about $35M in those two years (plus $3M in possible incentives that I don't understand).  I am interested to see what role Richardson is able to carve out on the Celtics.  I could see him starting with Schroder or Smart or coming off the bench.  Fournier did not do all that much in his time with the Celtics.  He was good, but a little below what I was expecting.  Fournier would have had more or less the same role though.

I view this as a team friendly deal overall but still seems like this could be a really good opportunity for Richardson.  This extension allows him to be a FA in 2023-24 when the cap may go up.  I think in his mind he is just playing it safe and getting another year at plenty of money and then will go for a big contract in 2023-24.  Seems reasonable.
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Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2021, 10:30:29 AM »

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If Schroeder plays great and really like it in Boston, then he may resign with us if we have cap room
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Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2021, 10:35:11 AM »

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If Schroeder plays great and really like it in Boston, then he may resign with us if we have cap room

We won't have cap room unless we move one of Tatum, Brown, Smart, Richardson, or TL for no incoming salary.  Considering that three of them just signed extensions and the other two are All-Stars in their early 20s, that's not happening.

Schroder could resign with the MLE or with non-Bird rights.  It would not be surprising if that is the best offer he receives next summer, since so few teams will have meaningful cap room.

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2021, 10:51:22 AM »

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Everyone in my twitter feed seems to think this confirms the plans to go after Beal in a trade or eventual sign-and-trade. Just the right size deal.
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Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2021, 11:16:59 AM »

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The other side benefit of the 1 year extension is we’ll then get his early bird rights.  So if we happen to strike out in the trade market and Richardson busts out playing really well we could re-sign him in 2 years up to 175% of his current salary.  The deal kind of covers all angles for us to either use him in the trade market over the next year and a half, or possibly keep him long term.

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« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2021, 11:23:56 AM »

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The other side benefit of the 1 year extension is we’ll then get his early bird rights.  So if we happen to strike out in the trade market and Richardson busts out playing really well we could re-sign him in 2 years up to 175% of his current salary.  The deal kind of covers all angles for us to either use him in the trade market over the next year and a half, or possibly keep him long term.

We have his full Bird rights.  They came with him from Dallas, since it was the end of a four-year deal, and this extension maintains them.

Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2021, 12:06:50 PM »

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The other side benefit of the 1 year extension is we’ll then get his early bird rights.  So if we happen to strike out in the trade market and Richardson busts out playing really well we could re-sign him in 2 years up to 175% of his current salary.  The deal kind of covers all angles for us to either use him in the trade market over the next year and a half, or possibly keep him long term.

We have his full Bird rights.  They came with him from Dallas, since it was the end of a four-year deal, and this extension maintains them.

I don’t think it applies here, but can you explain under what circumstances dealing somebody on a one-year deal causes them to lose Bird rights, and thus are subject to a no-trade clause?


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Re: Josh Richardson has agreed to a one-year extension
« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2021, 12:15:13 PM »

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The other side benefit of the 1 year extension is we’ll then get his early bird rights.  So if we happen to strike out in the trade market and Richardson busts out playing really well we could re-sign him in 2 years up to 175% of his current salary.  The deal kind of covers all angles for us to either use him in the trade market over the next year and a half, or possibly keep him long term.

We have his full Bird rights.  They came with him from Dallas, since it was the end of a four-year deal, and this extension maintains them.

I don’t think it applies here, but can you explain under what circumstances dealing somebody on a one-year deal causes them to lose Bird rights, and thus are subject to a no-trade clause?

Sure.  If you sign a player to a one-year deal, and after the conclusion of the deal the player would have Bird or Early Bird rights, the rule is that if the player is traded during that season, his rights downgrade (from full to early, and early to non-Bird).  Because of that, a player can veto a trade.

Richardson’s extension is technically a two-year deal, because the extension duration includes the current year.  Similarly, we had Bird rights already because his option year was part of a prior four-year deal, which also conferred Bird rights.