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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #555 on: August 02, 2021, 08:24:11 PM »

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My sense is there's going to be a lot of anger from the fan base starting tonight.

I'm waiting for Wyc's annual fireworks speech.

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #556 on: August 02, 2021, 08:24:20 PM »

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Spurs spending all their money on mediocre role players. What happened to that organisation?

A reminder to our fans that “cap space” doesn’t mean much if nobody wants to play for you.

Yeah I worry about that for next year.  We throw everything into one plan to clear cap space for one year and what happens if no one wants to sign?

This is starting to feel like Danny’s masterplan for AD. We know how that ended.

There are several top tier free agents on the market next summer. If your going to go all in on clearing cap space to land one of them, next summer is the right time to do it.

This season will be all about Tatum, Brown, Stevens and Udoka selling Boston as a premier destination for those top tier free agents.

I get that, it is a packed year for free agents, but how many of the top free agents available next year will even remotely consider Boston?  I know that is a rhetorical question, but you can apply a little logic and the best tier just doesn't seem likely for us, except maybe Beal.  So it kind of comes down to Brad / FO going all in for one FA that we don't even know if he would like to be here.

Curry - No, just reupped with GS off the market
KD - After not going with us last time, it is incredibly unlikely that he comes here now
Harden - highly doubtful
Doncic - Dallas will give him whatever he wants to stay
Kyrie - haha....not happening
Beal - literally the only top tier reasonable chance
Jimmy Butler - reupped with Miami off the market

So yeah it was a big list that is getting smaller, and the number of players that might actively consider Boston was small to begin with.

Exactly. The only reasonable ones that I can tell are Beal and Lavine, both of which I could easily see be off the market before then with extensions or committing to stay where they're at. Just don't see this as a great strategy, especially when it comes at the expense of a year of our young guys' contract that may be remembered down the line when it's time to re-up with us.

I wasn't crazy about EF, but seeing how things have went contract wise, if the C's had a chance to retain him in the 17-18mil a year range, it feels like it might have been a mistake not to do that.  If EF has a good year next year that 17 mil will seem like a major bargain, and that contract would have been really movable in a larger trade if you do find some all star to bite in free agency.
I’ve never been of the philosophy “sign him, you can always trade him”. It’s not that easy.  I look at it this way:  Is Tatum/Brown/Fournier a “big-3” championship core with Smart and Horford the other 2 starters?  I say no.

I say no too!

I agree too.  EF isn't bringing us a title.  But he might have been a part of a trade that brings the guy who helps us get a title.
eh...water under the bridge at this point.


Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #557 on: August 02, 2021, 08:24:34 PM »

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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1422350250543562752

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So...

Can the Celtics convince the Knicks to the Fournier deal as a S&T to create a new $18-19M TPE?

If not...ummmm...yeah.

Not sure why New York would help a division rival around the same level like this unless we overpay.

They probably won't unless we send something valuable. But hey! We have #flexibility

Nothing like flexibility…it’s cheap.

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« Reply #558 on: August 02, 2021, 08:25:03 PM »

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My sense is there's going to be a lot of anger from the fan base starting tonight.

I'm waiting for Wyc's annual fireworks speech.

It is like Disneyland.  Every night at 9:30 pm close to where I live.  But you actually get the fireworks from Disney.

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #559 on: August 02, 2021, 08:26:35 PM »

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My sense is there's going to be a lot of anger from the fan base starting tonight.

I'm waiting for Wyc's annual fireworks speech.

It is like Disneyland.  Every night at 9:30 pm close to where I live.  But you actually get the fireworks from Disney.

Wyc and company just talk about them.

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« Reply #560 on: August 02, 2021, 08:26:36 PM »

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My sense is there's going to be a lot of anger from the fan base starting tonight.

I'm waiting for Wyc's annual fireworks speech.

There different variations of that speech. It is clear that this ownership only cares about the bottom line.

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« Reply #561 on: August 02, 2021, 08:27:32 PM »

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I think that starting tonight, fans are going to realize how poor a job Ainge actually did since drafting Tatum. But at least we still have Grant Williams.

I’m assuming this last part was a joke.
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« Reply #562 on: August 02, 2021, 08:28:20 PM »

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My sense is there's going to be a lot of anger from the fan base starting tonight.

I'm waiting for Wyc's annual fireworks speech.

He's a businessman and all they care about is profits, a championship is merely a bonus.

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« Reply #563 on: August 02, 2021, 08:28:28 PM »

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I’ll just say that if the Celtics are playing for 2022 free agency they better Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again.ing land the big fish because if they punt this season and then lose their free agents by prioritizing someone else who doesn’t come, you can just start planning the inevitable Jays trades.

This is where I'm at.
Yup. I think today was an overall disappointing day by management. They have officially given up on this season in hopes of maybe signing an FA next year. They better know something we don’t because this could be a massive blunder.

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #564 on: August 02, 2021, 08:30:14 PM »

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I’ll just say that if the Celtics are playing for 2022 free agency they better Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again.ing land the big fish because if they punt this season and then lose their free agents by prioritizing someone else who doesn’t come, you can just start planning the inevitable Jays trades.

This is where I'm at.
Yup. I think today was an overall disappointing day by management. They have officially given up on this season in hopes of maybe signing an FA next year. They better know something we don’t because this could be a massive blunder.

They gave up on last season before it began and the season before that.

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« Reply #565 on: August 02, 2021, 08:30:38 PM »

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I’ll just say that if the Celtics are playing for 2022 free agency they better Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again.ing land the big fish because if they punt this season and then lose their free agents by prioritizing someone else who doesn’t come, you can just start planning the inevitable Jays trades.

This is where I'm at.
Yup. I think today was an overall disappointing day by management. They have officially given up on this season in hopes of maybe signing an FA. They better know something we don’t because this could be a massive blunder.

I agree 100%.

How often does the 'we are going all in on free agency in (insert random year)' work out for the Boston Celtics.  We signed Al, and GH and both of them bolted the first chance they could.  Excuse me if I don't get overly excited about phantom FA's that will be signing with us.

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« Reply #566 on: August 02, 2021, 08:32:20 PM »

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Miami gets new players every year.

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« Reply #567 on: August 02, 2021, 08:32:41 PM »

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Free agent guard Alex Caruso has agreed to a four-year, $37M deal with the Chicago Bulls, his agent Greg Lawrence of @Wasserman tells ESPN.
Why did Chicago do that?

They have Lonzo Ball and Coby White at PG already. Why sign a 3rd PG at MLE type money?

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« Reply #568 on: August 02, 2021, 08:33:17 PM »

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I’ll just say that if the Celtics are playing for 2022 free agency they better Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again.ing land the big fish because if they punt this season and then lose their free agents by prioritizing someone else who doesn’t come, you can just start planning the inevitable Jays trades.

This is where I'm at.
Yup. I think today was an overall disappointing day by management. They have officially given up on this season in hopes of maybe signing an FA. They better know something we don’t because this could be a massive blunder.

I agree 100%.

How often does the 'we are going all in on free agency in (insert random year)' work out for the Boston Celtics.  We signed Al, and GH and both of them bolted the first chance they could.  Excuse me if I don't get overly excited about phantom FA's that will be signing with us.
Never. We basically stole the New York Knicks gameplan for free agency the past 20 years. It’s sad.

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« Reply #569 on: August 02, 2021, 08:33:45 PM »

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Free agent guard Alex Caruso has agreed to a four-year, $37M deal with the Chicago Bulls, his agent Greg Lawrence of @Wasserman tells ESPN.
Why did Chicago do that?

They have Lonzo Ball and Coby White at PG already. Why sign a 3rd PG at MLE type money?

Some teams like to add depth for a long season. I've heard.  ::)