PBS trigger happy?

[Ed Monix]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

[Roy H.]

I’m a firm believer that if you’re happy with a deal, don’t wait in hopes to improve it.

What if OKC made a trade for a mid-first?  What if Kemba blew out his knee while working out?

Waiting doesn’t guarantee we do better.

[liam]

Maybe to get Al to the point where in can be included in a trade before next season?

[Celtics2021]

I think Brad genuinely liked what Al would bring to this team, both on the court and off, and made the deal.  This isn’t simply a salary dump.  Given that Kemba couldn’t make it through the playoffs healthy, it’s unlikely a better deal would have appeared in the next month, especially one that involved receiving a player Stevens wanted on the team.

[footey]

Actually I like Brad's decisiveness. It's refreshing.

[Rikibellevie]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

I agree that we could and probably should have wait at least until draft night. Okc would probably still be OK and Walker won't hurt his knee on resting on holliday. Next year with an OK Kemba start he could have some value + multiple picks and salary fillers to bring a Beal who force this deal. 

Future will tell what this trade was, but I think many overestimate what a 35 Horford will bring in game. It was a gamble to keep Kemba after draft night.  At least we could have waited until then. The 14th pick was our 3rd and last chance to grab a rookie role player to complete for cheap the team (maybe next year again) or even more to be offensive on trade on draft night.

[Ed Monix]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

I agree that we could and probably should have wait at least until draft night. Okc would probably still be OK and Walker won't hurt his knee on resting on holliday. Next year with an OK Kemba start he could have some value + multiple picks and salary fillers to bring a Beal who force this deal. 

Future will tell what this trade was, but I think many overestimate what a 35 Horford will bring in game. It was a gamble to keep Kemba after draft night.  At least we could have waited until then. The 14th pick was our 3rd and last chance to grab a rookie role player to complete for cheap the team (maybe next year again) or even more to be offensive on trade on draft night.

Exactly, I can understand the Horford side, but that pick (#16) could bite the Celtics on the ass. If Ainge made this trade, he would have been slaughtered in the media.

This draft is so deep, that a blue chip guy could slide into our pick slot…and we have just given that pick away.

[Goldstar88]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... No one wanted Kemba. That’s why the C’s had to move him for another bad contract, plus give up a 1st round pick. Danny was reportedly shopping Kemba for a while with no takers.

[Ed Monix]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... No one wanted Kemba. That’s why the C’s had to move him for another bad contract, plus give up a 1st round pick. Danny was reportedly shopping Kemba for a while with no takers.

I can understand 2-3 second round picks or even a late 1st rounder, but the 16th pick for essentially a salary dump???

This (hopefully) should be our last high pick for the next half decade and Stevens just gave it away. In recent history, when has giving away a good pick to fix a signing error ever worked out for a team front office? Usually it has the opposite effect.

[KG Living Legend]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

I agree that we could and probably should have wait at least until draft night. Okc would probably still be OK and Walker won't hurt his knee on resting on holliday. Next year with an OK Kemba start he could have some value + multiple picks and salary fillers to bring a Beal who force this deal. 

Future will tell what this trade was, but I think many overestimate what a 35 Horford will bring in game. It was a gamble to keep Kemba after draft night.  At least we could have waited until then. The 14th pick was our 3rd and last chance to grab a rookie role player to complete for cheap the team (maybe next year again) or even more to be offensive on trade on draft night.

Exactly, I can understand the Horford side, but that pick (#16) could bite the Celtics on the ass. If Ainge made this trade, he would have been slaughtered in the media.

This draft is so deep, that a blue chip guy could slide into our pick slot…and we have just given that pick away.

 Ainge made the move for Kemba. He wouldn't have made the deal because Danny is afraid of looking bad, or losing the trade.

 Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and do what's best for the team. Something he just couldn't do.

[Vermont Green]

Before we crucify Stevens for trading Pick 16, let’s see if the player taken is even better than Moses (Mr. 20/20) Brown. We know the pick will be paid twice as much.  I predict Moses will be better for at least two seasons 

[Roy H.]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... No one wanted Kemba. That’s why the C’s had to move him for another bad contract, plus give up a 1st round pick. Danny was reportedly shopping Kemba for a while with no takers.

I can understand 2-3 second round picks or even a late 1st rounder, but the 16th pick for essentially a salary dump???

This (hopefully) should be our last high pick for the next half decade and Stevens just gave it away. In recent history, when has giving away a good pick to fix a signing error ever worked out for a team front office? Usually it has the opposite effect.

I mean, the trade saved us a minimum of $20 million, gave us the ability to afford Fournier, added Moses Brown and brought us back a good starting center.

That’s pretty good value for the #16.

[Goldstar88]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... No one wanted Kemba. That’s why the C’s had to move him for another bad contract, plus give up a 1st round pick. Danny was reportedly shopping Kemba for a while with no takers.

I can understand 2-3 second round picks or even a late 1st rounder, but the 16th pick for essentially a salary dump???

This (hopefully) should be our last high pick for the next half decade and Stevens just gave it away. In recent history, when has giving away a good pick to fix a signing error ever worked out for a team front office? Usually it has the opposite effect.

I’m sure Brad would have loved to keep the 1st rounder and give up a couple of seconds, but Presti or anyone else would not have it.  Kemba has arguably the worst contract in the NBA.

[Celtics2021]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... No one wanted Kemba. That’s why the C’s had to move him for another bad contract, plus give up a 1st round pick. Danny was reportedly shopping Kemba for a while with no takers.

I can understand 2-3 second round picks or even a late 1st rounder, but the 16th pick for essentially a salary dump???

This (hopefully) should be our last high pick for the next half decade and Stevens just gave it away. In recent history, when has giving away a good pick to fix a signing error ever worked out for a team front office? Usually it has the opposite effect.

I’m sure Brad would have loved to keep the 1st rounder and give up a couple of seconds, but Presti or anyone else would not have it.  Kemba has arguably the worst contract in the NBA.

There’s no need for hyperbole.  There are exactly zero people who would take John Wall’s contract over Kemba’s.

[Goldstar88]

I’m still curious about the Kemba Oklahoma deal, and why it needed to be done so early in the off-season. On the outside looking in, surely that deal could have been done at the latest on the eve of the draft?

Given recent Kawhi reports, what if the Celtics missed out on a sign and trade just because Walker was moved too soon? Obviously that is just an example, but there was always going to be new permutation to the trade market, given his statistics this season, for me Walker wasn’t a zero asset and a team could have come forward that at least saved the Celtics our upcoming first round pick.

My fear is that Sam Presti smelt blood in the water with front office transition, and a rookie opposing manager, Presti struck before the Celtics truely gauged the market.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... No one wanted Kemba. That’s why the C’s had to move him for another bad contract, plus give up a 1st round pick. Danny was reportedly shopping Kemba for a while with no takers.

I can understand 2-3 second round picks or even a late 1st rounder, but the 16th pick for essentially a salary dump???

This (hopefully) should be our last high pick for the next half decade and Stevens just gave it away. In recent history, when has giving away a good pick to fix a signing error ever worked out for a team front office? Usually it has the opposite effect.

I’m sure Brad would have loved to keep the 1st rounder and give up a couple of seconds, but Presti or anyone else would not have it.  Kemba has arguably the worst contract in the NBA.

There’s no need for hyperbole.  There are exactly zero people who would take John Wall’s contract over Kemba’s.

I’d take John Wall over Kemba if I had to choose. Least he has size and is a pass first PG. The fact that you have one example of a player that you view as having a worse contract says a lot.