What team is in worst situation in NBA?

[celticsclay]

I am removing Detroit from the group because they have the #1 pick so they are in a good spot right now to build something. The Rockets have the 2nd pick so Evan Mobley makes them somewhat promising.

I would say Cleveland is the worst of that group. I do not see much there to build around long term. San Antonio is the 2nd worst.

I like the Hornets because of LaMelo Ball so they are one step up off the bottom off the barrel. Toronto has Siakam but not much else.The Knicks should not be removed from this conversation. They are still in it alongside the likes of Charlotte & Toronto. They are more of an overachieving mediocrity than a promising up and coming team. RJ Barrett looks interesting. Not wholly on board with Randle.

Sacramento is pretty solid with Fox and Hield. They just have no vision for what to do next.

Yeah so Cleveland and San Antonio are my two picks as the worst of the worst.

I think Cleveland has way more then Houston and certainly San Antonio.  The Cavs have the 3rd pick along with Garland, Sexton, Allen, and Okoro.  They are all in their early 20's and all except Allen were top 8 picks.  They have quality younger depth as well in Nance, Osman, Prince, Dotson, etc.  They have Love's bad contract, but otherwise a pretty clean book going forward and they own all of their own 1st's.

I don't think Allen has very much star upside. Cedi Osman is very much a fringe NBA player in my opinion. He shot 37% from field and 30% form 3. Not exactly sure what he does well. Dotson is an end of rotation player. Prince is very meh. Every team in the league has guys like this, so mentioning them seems fairly irrelevant to me.

The real question is can Sexton, Garland or Okoro become a star. It seems like there is a chance Sexton gets traded and it does not seem like the Cavs are particularly high on him and there are rumors maybe he could end up on Knicks or Warriors? I am curious what they would get for him. I can't say I have formed an opinion on Garland or Okoro, but they probably need one of these three guys to be a legit all-star to not be in a real bleak situation.

I do agree with you the magic and spurs are in same position basically. Those teams certainly do not have a clear all-star on their roster either and really need to get lucky with players like Bama, Fultz, Murray or Johnson, Bacon, Issac etc. None of those players are standing out so far.

[nickagneta]

Orlando.

They were stuck in not awful to mediocre purgatory for a decade. They are young and now, after offloading Gordon, Vucevic and Fournier, they are lacking consistently healthy talent.

I see them being a bottom 3 team for the next 2-3 years at the very least.

[Somebody]

I went Warriors.

Steph is 33, Klay is 31, Green is 31, bench is meh.  They're an aging team and will they have the ability to sign free agents or make that trade to keep them relevant.  They got lucky with Wiseman, like the Spurs did with Duncan, but what happens Stpeh wants his next contract?  Klay, Wiggins, and Green are 98M against the cap in 22-23.

The Warriors?   If everything falls into place for them, I won't be surprised if they win it all next season. Steph was possibly the 2nd best player in the NBA during the regular season, behind only Jokic. They also got plenty of trade assets to make a win-now trade: Wiseman, #7, #14 and Wiggins as salary filler.

Definitely not the Pistons. Imo, they are about to draft a generational talent. I would argue that Cade is the most talented prospect to enter the draft since Luka. If we go even further back in time (excluding Luka), I'd go as far as to say he might be the most talented prospect since Durant. This is how high I'm on this kid! Not to mention, the Pistons also got Jerami Grant and Saddiq Bey. Even Isaiah Stewart is a decent big man prospect. Nothing special, but decent.

Basketball-wise, you guys have already mentioned all the obvious answers. Financially-wise, the team in the worst situation might be the Pels. If there's a team in danger of relocation, it's probably the Pels. At least they got lucky(?) in the Zion lottery.

Inb4 Mobley develops into one of the many two-way anchors that have ruled the league since the 1940s when George Mikan appeared on the basketball scene .

[Somebody]

I am removing Detroit from the group because they have the #1 pick so they are in a good spot right now to build something. The Rockets have the 2nd pick so Evan Mobley makes them somewhat promising.

I would say Cleveland is the worst of that group. I do not see much there to build around long term. San Antonio is the 2nd worst.

I like the Hornets because of LaMelo Ball so they are one step up off the bottom off the barrel. Toronto has Siakam but not much else.The Knicks should not be removed from this conversation. They are still in it alongside the likes of Charlotte & Toronto. They are more of an overachieving mediocrity than a promising up and coming team. RJ Barrett looks interesting. Not wholly on board with Randle.

Sacramento is pretty solid with Fox and Hield. They just have no vision for what to do next.

Yeah so Cleveland and San Antonio are my two picks as the worst of the worst.

I think Cleveland has way more then Houston and certainly San Antonio.  The Cavs have the 3rd pick along with Garland, Sexton, Allen, and Okoro.  They are all in their early 20's and all except Allen were top 8 picks.  They have quality younger depth as well in Nance, Osman, Prince, Dotson, etc.  They have Love's bad contract, but otherwise a pretty clean book going forward and they own all of their own 1st's.

I don't think Allen has very much star upside. Cedi Osman is very much a fringe NBA player in my opinion. He shot 37% from field and 30% form 3. Not exactly sure what he does well. Dotson is an end of rotation player. Prince is very meh. Every team in the league has guys like this, so mentioning them seems fairly irrelevant to me.

The real question is can Sexton, Garland or Okoro become a star. It seems like there is a chance Sexton gets traded and it does not seem like the Cavs are particularly high on him and there are rumors maybe he could end up on Knicks or Warriors? I am curious what they would get for him. I can't say I have formed an opinion on Garland or Okoro, but they probably need one of these three guys to be a legit all-star to not be in a real bleak situation.

I do agree with you the magic and spurs are in same position basically. Those teams certainly do not have a clear all-star on their roster either and really need to get lucky with players like Bama, Fultz, Murray or Johnson, Bacon, Issac etc. None of those players are standing out so far.

^this. The Rockets have an impact player who's on the fringe of stardom in Christian Wood (maybe Grant for Detroit if you like what you saw from him this year, although I think his stats this season were pretty light on impact), and that trumps whatever the Cavaliers have because you hope your lottery picks can develop into players like that in general.

[Rikibellevie]

I would say the Kings because they always are... But I voted the spurs, given to their standards they come back from far with 0 elite talent in the roster going out from 25 historic years. Cle or Detroit have better assets to emerge 4/5 years from now.

[gouki88]

I think San Antonio. They've got a bunch of nice young role player types like Murray, White, Johnson and Poeltl, but they are absolutely starved of scoring talent. I can't imagine there's mutual interest between them and DeRozan.

They also only have pick 12 in the first round.

[slamtheking]

What?  Celtics aren't included as an option?  with all the gloom-and-doomers on this site I would think that'd be the runaway winner in this poll.   

[SparzWizard]

I'm surprised the Celtics aren't on this list

[pearljammer10]

I went with the Kings.

Detroit have pick 1 and their GM made a number of moves last year.

Houston has pick 2 as well as Wood.

Cleveland have a decent amount of young potentials plus pick 3.

Sac has Fox, Heild, and Bagley and none of them has over impressed in their time thus far. Heild dropped big time last year, Fox has put up numbers but nothings translated. Bagley is horrible.

They also have pick 9 which sucks for them. They have been bad enough to get lottery luck, and if they fight for playoffs they just ruin their rebuild. THey've been in the trenches year after year and I don't see that getting much better anytime soon.

[PAOBoston]

It’s always the Kings.

[Moranis]

I am removing Detroit from the group because they have the #1 pick so they are in a good spot right now to build something. The Rockets have the 2nd pick so Evan Mobley makes them somewhat promising.

I would say Cleveland is the worst of that group. I do not see much there to build around long term. San Antonio is the 2nd worst.

I like the Hornets because of LaMelo Ball so they are one step up off the bottom off the barrel. Toronto has Siakam but not much else.The Knicks should not be removed from this conversation. They are still in it alongside the likes of Charlotte & Toronto. They are more of an overachieving mediocrity than a promising up and coming team. RJ Barrett looks interesting. Not wholly on board with Randle.

Sacramento is pretty solid with Fox and Hield. They just have no vision for what to do next.

Yeah so Cleveland and San Antonio are my two picks as the worst of the worst.

I think Cleveland has way more then Houston and certainly San Antonio.  The Cavs have the 3rd pick along with Garland, Sexton, Allen, and Okoro.  They are all in their early 20's and all except Allen were top 8 picks.  They have quality younger depth as well in Nance, Osman, Prince, Dotson, etc.  They have Love's bad contract, but otherwise a pretty clean book going forward and they own all of their own 1st's.

I don't think Allen has very much star upside. Cedi Osman is very much a fringe NBA player in my opinion. He shot 37% from field and 30% form 3. Not exactly sure what he does well. Dotson is an end of rotation player. Prince is very meh. Every team in the league has guys like this, so mentioning them seems fairly irrelevant to me.

The real question is can Sexton, Garland or Okoro become a star. It seems like there is a chance Sexton gets traded and it does not seem like the Cavs are particularly high on him and there are rumors maybe he could end up on Knicks or Warriors? I am curious what they would get for him. I can't say I have formed an opinion on Garland or Okoro, but they probably need one of these three guys to be a legit all-star to not be in a real bleak situation.

I do agree with you the magic and spurs are in same position basically. Those teams certainly do not have a clear all-star on their roster either and really need to get lucky with players like Bama, Fultz, Murray or Johnson, Bacon, Issac etc. None of those players are standing out so far.

^this. The Rockets have an impact player who's on the fringe of stardom in Christian Wood (maybe Grant for Detroit if you like what you saw from him this year, although I think his stats this season were pretty light on impact), and that trumps whatever the Cavaliers have because you hope your lottery picks can develop into players like that in general.

Statistically, Sexton was statistically pretty darn similar to Wood last year and Sexton is 3 years younger (Sexton scored more, passed better, they shot similarly from 3, and while wood was better from 2, Sexton was better from the line, and of course Wood is the better rebounder).  The Cavs also have Garland, Okoro, Allen, and the 3rd pick.  Houston obviously has more future draft picks, but outside of their own, if any are any good it won't be for several years.  And I don't really think there is much difference between the 2nd and 3rd pick this year, so while Houston has a slight edge in making a choice with 1 extra person there is a pretty good chance Cleveland ends up with the better player. 

[tarheelsxxiii]

Hope it never happens, but if Tatum and Brown left in FA, the Celtics would be very deep bottom dwellers.

[gouki88]

Hope it never happens, but if Tatum and Brown left in FA, the Celtics would be very deep bottom dwellers.

I don't think we'd let them leave in FA without trading them the year or two before.

[nickagneta]

Hope it never happens, but if Tatum and Brown left in FA, the Celtics would be very deep bottom dwellers.

I don't think we'd let them leave in FA without trading them the year or two before.

Also, not something to worry about for 3 years or so

[gouki88]

Hope it never happens, but if Tatum and Brown left in FA, the Celtics would be very deep bottom dwellers.

I don't think we'd let them leave in FA without trading them the year or two before.

Also, not something to worry about for 3 years or so

That won't stop some