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Don't trade Romeo 0r Aaron Nesmith
« on: July 06, 2021, 06:59:58 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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Romeo's defense is special with his length and ability to contort he body mid air not to foul and still contest the shot.His block of Harden comes to mind.Then there was the block on baseline after Prithard got beat two hands up going vertical at rim..I think,he disguises that almost 7ft wingspan with a sort padded physique and lfuidity.
Nesmith on the other hand is cut and threw himself around contesting everything Another huge wingspan and more  athletically-inclined than we were told.Almost qualified for fast in open court while Romeo smoothly changes gears and fearlessly takes charges .Both weakside rebound and cut backdoor
Nesmith was picked for 3 pt prowess for only a first half a season due to injury.
We now have Timelord, Pritchard and Williams (Marcus,Brown and Tatum with Rozier getting away and losing Kelly to Miami in free agency.
Lets grow a team like San Antonio did or Phoenix has done
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2021, 09:02:39 AM »

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Got to give something to get something, so I disagree with the title, though your points about these two kids are valid.

Phoenix -  CP3 made the difference for that team.  They are a bad example.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2021, 09:29:58 AM »

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A couple of points are coming out of this.  One is that we have done a pretty good job of building the team through the draft (Tatum, Brown, Smart, Williams, Williams, Langford, Nesmith, Pritchard).  I think Rollie is saying stay with this.  The more you can build through the draft, the better, but no team that contends for a title is going to build solely through the draft.  We have had worse luck with the FAs/major trades we have done (Kyrie, Horford, Hayward, Walker) but most teams need to add a player or two this way to get over the top.

As to trading Langford and Nesmith, certainly no need to trade them just to trade them but I am open to trading one or both if it improves the team.  I like both players and hope we don't trade them, it all depends on the deal.  I would trade one or both for an upgrade at PF for example.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2021, 09:58:09 AM »

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Both need to make significant strides to become non-tradable. If there's one thing I've learned watching the playoffs is the Celtics need veteran bench help in the worst-way-possible.

This year, without seeing major improvement from both would be their last.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2021, 10:01:08 AM »

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I'm on team Rollie: Don't trade them. Particularly as their projected future value (in my head) far exceeds current market value.  I particularly am bullish on Romeo's future in the league as an elite multi-positional defender who will make solid offensive contributions when given opportunities.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2021, 10:23:44 AM »

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I do believe Nesmith will turn out as a good player..Romeo, no
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C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
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Re: Don't trade Romeo 0r Aaron Nesmith
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2021, 10:46:04 AM »

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It really depends on what you were being offered for them.  I do not think that either of them is in high demand or would bring back a good asset. Neither of these is guys are not good enough to be considered off market to trades and it is ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2021, 10:52:59 AM »

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A couple of thoughts:
1. We currently have 4 developmental prospects (Timelord, Nesmith, Romeo, Pritchard) that need minutes to see what’s there or develop what’s there. I wouldn’t put Grant or Carsen in that category. If they surprise from here on out great, but they haven’t earned developmental opportunities yet.
2. Having moved the 16th pick, we can probably afford to give all 4 of those guys some developmental rotation minutes if we choose to keep them all. If we had kept the 16th pick, I think something else would have had to give with one or more of these prospects. We would have had too much of the roster dedicated to developmental prospects (like last year).
3. I wouldn’t give away any of these 4 prospects, but I also wouldn’t let any one of them hold up a deal that makes us better (especially if it helps us net a player we view as a clear starter along with Tatum, Brown, and Smart). 
4. Specific to Nesmith/Langford, it seems like a luxury to have two developmental prospects at the wing spot when our two best players are also wings. It can be done (especially with Tatum’s ability to play the 4), but I certainly wouldn’t hesitate to include one of them in the right deal.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2021, 10:53:33 AM »

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Quote from: Surferdad on July 06, 2021, 09:02:39 AM
Got to give something to get something, so I disagree with the title, though your points about these two kids are valid.

Phoenix - CP3 made the difference for that team.  They are a bad example.

Probably right as far as making the finals....but I think their 8`0 bubble run was with Rubio and they looked very good.  I think any good point guard and that team was going to be a tough out.

They've also shown they don't fall apart when Paul is out...

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2021, 12:35:40 PM »

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I'm high on both of these players, but if they're part of a big time trade, so be it. I hope if we trade for a 3rd star, we can hold onto at least one of them.

Too much is made of the "Spurs way". The reason the Spurs way of doing things worked was because they had one of the all time great big men, and a perennial all star point guard (thanks, Red).
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2021, 12:45:19 PM »

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Quote from: ETNCeltics on July 06, 2021, 12:35:40 PM
I'm high on both of these players, but if they're part of a big time trade, so be it. I hope if we trade for a 3rd star, we can hold onto at least one of them.

Too much is made of the "Spurs way". The reason the Spurs way of doing things worked was because they had one of the all time great big men, and a perennial all star point guard (thanks, Red).

Darn, thanks for reminding me:  Joe Johnson, Kedrick Brown, and Joseph Forte.  I'm going to go throw up!
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Re: Don't trade Romeo 0r Aaron Nesmith
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2021, 02:00:28 PM »

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 Rozier proved what mid range picks could become.Our young guys got cheated by Covid not just getting sick  .The no crowds ,no training  and few practices. because of compressed season.
Over on  Celtis subreddit, did anyone see the tape of Pritchards deep threes ,Romeos defense and Smarts defense and hustle plays
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2021, 02:35:56 PM »

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Quote from: rollie mass on July 06, 2021, 02:00:28 PM
Rozier proved what mid range picks could become.Our young guys got cheated by Covid not just getting sick  .The no crowds ,no training  and few practices. because of compressed season.
Over on  Celtis subreddit, did anyone see the tape of Pritchards deep threes ,Romeos defense and Smarts defense and hustle plays
There’s a pretty good chance these guys (Langford/Nesmith) become James Young as well. Personally I don’t see it with Langford. Nesmith looked promising to end the year.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2021, 03:10:28 PM »

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When does our Hayward trade exception expire? 8/6?
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2021, 03:21:29 PM »

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Quote from: PAOBoston on July 06, 2021, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: rollie mass on July 06, 2021, 02:00:28 PM
Rozier proved what mid range picks could become.Our young guys got cheated by Covid not just getting sick  .The no crowds ,no training  and few practices. because of compressed season.
Over on  Celtis subreddit, did anyone see the tape of Pritchards deep threes ,Romeos defense and Smarts defense and hustle plays
There’s a pretty good chance these guys (Langford/Nesmith) become James Young as well. Personally I don’t see it with Langford. Nesmith looked promising to end the year.
they're already better than Young so they won't become him.  Both of them showed they could develop into solid players for us towards the end of the year and playoffs.  Give them both a full training camp while they're healthy and I suspect all but the most bitter haters will be pleased with their contributions this coming season.
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