Dame Wants Out?

[liam]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

[CFAN38]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Dame is 31 and Embiid isn’t likely to have a long healthy career, I’d take my chances with the Jays window over a Dame Embiid team.

[esel1000]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

I get that side of it too but Lillard is at a level you hope Jaylen gets to. Add that to Tatum and they’re competing with anyone now.

I wouldn’t gut the entire team for Lillard but if you could get him for Jaylen, another player and some picks it’s an excellent opportunity to truly compete now. In the perfect world you’d get Lillard without giving up either but it isn’t possible from both a trade/contract (I think) standpoint.

[esel1000]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Dame is 31 and Embiid isn’t likely to have a long healthy career, I’d take my chances with the Jays window over a Dame Embiid team.

Sure but that’s assuming that the Jays together can be a championship contender. Hopefully they can be but it’s hard to know. There’s also the fact that teams will continue to take this risk and build super teams when we continue to wait and hope the Jays together can be a contender.

The Nets will be back, the Sixers with Dame will be a tough out. What if we just keep treadmilling and Tatum decides he wants out in a few years?

[W8ting2McHale]

I don’t want to give up Brown, but if I had to, I would do it for Lillard before Harden, and probably Beal.

[liam]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

I get that side of it too but Lillard is at a level you hope Jaylen gets to. Add that to Tatum and they’re competing with anyone now.

I wouldn’t gut the entire team for Lillard but if you could get him for Jaylen, another player and some picks it’s an excellent opportunity to truly compete now. In the perfect world you’d get Lillard without giving up either but it isn’t possible from both a trade/contract (I think) standpoint.

You can send out Horford and young guys and Picks and swaps for Lillard. That's like a Harden trade.

[esel1000]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

I get that side of it too but Lillard is at a level you hope Jaylen gets to. Add that to Tatum and they’re competing with anyone now.

I wouldn’t gut the entire team for Lillard but if you could get him for Jaylen, another player and some picks it’s an excellent opportunity to truly compete now. In the perfect world you’d get Lillard without giving up either but it isn’t possible from both a trade/contract (I think) standpoint.

You can send out Horford and young guys and Picks and swaps for Lillard. That's like a Harden trade.

True I forgot about Horford. I mean in the perfect world that would be the move I just don’t see how that happens. He was a joke in the playoffs but Simmons has more value than that package.

[Ogaju]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

[liam]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

I get that side of it too but Lillard is at a level you hope Jaylen gets to. Add that to Tatum and they’re competing with anyone now.

I wouldn’t gut the entire team for Lillard but if you could get him for Jaylen, another player and some picks it’s an excellent opportunity to truly compete now. In the perfect world you’d get Lillard without giving up either but it isn’t possible from both a trade/contract (I think) standpoint.

You can send out Horford and young guys and Picks and swaps for Lillard. That's like a Harden trade.

True I forgot about Horford. I mean in the perfect world that would be the move I just don’t see how that happens. He was a joke in the playoffs but Simmons has more value than that package.

But it's a total rebuild if Portland gets rid of Lillard. Does Portland want a total rebuild or to build a team around Simmons? I  don't think Simmons and McCollum gets you into the playoffs in the west.

[esel1000]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

I get that side of it too but Lillard is at a level you hope Jaylen gets to. Add that to Tatum and they’re competing with anyone now.

I wouldn’t gut the entire team for Lillard but if you could get him for Jaylen, another player and some picks it’s an excellent opportunity to truly compete now. In the perfect world you’d get Lillard without giving up either but it isn’t possible from both a trade/contract (I think) standpoint.

You can send out Horford and young guys and Picks and swaps for Lillard. That's like a Harden trade.

True I forgot about Horford. I mean in the perfect world that would be the move I just don’t see how that happens. He was a joke in the playoffs but Simmons has more value than that package.

But it's a total rebuild if Portland gets rid of Lillard. Does Portland want a total rebuild or to build a team around Simmons? I  don't think Simmons and McCollum gets you into the playoffs in the west.

I feel like they’d view Simmons as a player they could rebuild with if needed. McCollum would be gone. In this situation I’d try to grab Powell, or possibly McCollum depending on asking price.

[liam]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

I get that side of it too but Lillard is at a level you hope Jaylen gets to. Add that to Tatum and they’re competing with anyone now.

I wouldn’t gut the entire team for Lillard but if you could get him for Jaylen, another player and some picks it’s an excellent opportunity to truly compete now. In the perfect world you’d get Lillard without giving up either but it isn’t possible from both a trade/contract (I think) standpoint.

You can send out Horford and young guys and Picks and swaps for Lillard. That's like a Harden trade.

True I forgot about Horford. I mean in the perfect world that would be the move I just don’t see how that happens. He was a joke in the playoffs but Simmons has more value than that package.

But it's a total rebuild if Portland gets rid of Lillard. Does Portland want a total rebuild or to build a team around Simmons? I  don't think Simmons and McCollum gets you into the playoffs in the west.

I feel like they’d view Simmons as a player they could rebuild with if needed. McCollum would be gone. In this situation I’d try to grab Powell, or possibly McCollum depending on asking price.

Even after his annual playoff pants poop? Simmons is just good enough to keep you out of the top of the lottery.

[esel1000]

I just really don’t want him to end up on the Sixers... the last thing we need is another division rival getting a superstar player and separating themselves from the pack.

If Dame really does request a trade Brad will have to think long and hard about trading Jaylen for him. It’s a star league and Lillard/Tatum would be a superstar combo that could compete with the Nets. Danny wouldn’t have done it based on recent track record, but with Brad in charge now you never know.

If he is moved a Dame for Simmons plus assets package seems to make the most sense for both teams. A CJ and Simmons combo could work for Blazers and Dame and Embiid could be dangerous

And that's precisely why the Celtics would have to offer Brown and more to get Lillard.  If he goes to the Sixers our path to contention during Tatum's prime is pretty narrow.

Yup sometimes trading is about offense (making your team better) and defense (blocking your rival).

Exactly, I’m a huge Jaylen fan but it can’t always be about the future. A team with a Tatum level player needs to be a championship contender now. Moving Tatum for anything less than Doncic is a bad move, but any move that allows you to keep Tatum and grab another MVP level player is a risk that a good GM needs to take if we’re serious about championships in the near future. The two major arguments against it are age and contract, but again you have to give something to get something. 30 isn’t even that bad.

Keeping Tatum happy is priority #1 since he’s proven that he’s a young bonafide superstar, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one of the all stars that has been recruiting Dame.

I think Dame is going to be 31 shortly. The idea should be to add players to Tatum and Brown not just swap one of them and other assets for another All-Star.

I get that side of it too but Lillard is at a level you hope Jaylen gets to. Add that to Tatum and they’re competing with anyone now.

I wouldn’t gut the entire team for Lillard but if you could get him for Jaylen, another player and some picks it’s an excellent opportunity to truly compete now. In the perfect world you’d get Lillard without giving up either but it isn’t possible from both a trade/contract (I think) standpoint.

You can send out Horford and young guys and Picks and swaps for Lillard. That's like a Harden trade.

True I forgot about Horford. I mean in the perfect world that would be the move I just don’t see how that happens. He was a joke in the playoffs but Simmons has more value than that package.

But it's a total rebuild if Portland gets rid of Lillard. Does Portland want a total rebuild or to build a team around Simmons? I  don't think Simmons and McCollum gets you into the playoffs in the west.

I feel like they’d view Simmons as a player they could rebuild with if needed. McCollum would be gone. In this situation I’d try to grab Powell, or possibly McCollum depending on asking price.

Even after his annual playoff pants poop? Simmons is just good enough to keep you out of the top of the lottery.

I mean I personally think he’s useless mainly due to his attitude and refusal to work on his game but according to reports he still has value. Jaylen would beat him in an offer, I just don’t think any package without Jaylen would. I’d love to be wrong.

If the Cs choose not to make this trade I’m going to assume they’re optimistic about getting Beal next year.

[SparzWizard]

Smart and Brown for Liliard…..give them some of the scrubs too.

I don't think any deal with Dame will work without Tatum in it.

And I'd hang up if that were the case.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Best deal sitting out there for Portland has got to be one based on Ben Simmons, draft picks, and Maxey. Just for a moment, assume that is the case.

Could the Celtics be opportunists here? Could they become a third team in the deal and take Ben Simmons on for Smart, Thompson, Rob Williams, Pritchard (college hero), Langford, and some future picks?

I know that's a lot to give up, but maybe the Blazers aren't thrilled with the idea of rebuilding around Simmons and want to go full rebuild instead of retooling around Simmons. The Celtics swoop in to offer them good value.

Celtics have Simmons-Fournier-Tatum-Brown-Horford with Nesmith, Parker, and Grant Williams off the bench. They then fill out the roster with some veteran shooters and defenders.

The other way they could swoop in would be to make an aggressive offer on McCullom, who could be on the move as part of the rebuild.

[SHAQATTACK]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if was key to pairing Lillard with Tater .   

Brad let her rip chip .