Dame Wants Out?

[Ogaju]

Smart and Brown for Liliard…..give them some of the scrubs too.

I don't think any deal with Dame will work without Tatum in it.

And I'd hang up if that were the case.

They will take Brown and Smart…Tatum is untouchable….remember this is a scenario that has Damian asking out.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if was key to pairing Lillard with Tater .   

Brad let her rip chip .

I don't believe someone can be traded with other players in a trade deal for a certain amount of time after a trade.

Can anyone confirm?

Otherwise, yeah, you have to use Horford's salary and any non-Tatum/Brown players on the roster.

[liam]

Best deal sitting out there for Portland has got to be one based on Ben Simmons, draft picks, and Maxey. Just for a moment, assume that is the case.

Could the Celtics be opportunists here? Could they become a third team in the deal and take Ben Simmons on for Smart, Thompson, Rob Williams, Pritchard (college hero), Langford, and some future picks?

I know that's a lot to give up, but maybe the Blazers aren't thrilled with the idea of rebuilding around Simmons and want to go full rebuild instead of retooling around Simmons. The Celtics swoop in to offer them good value.

Celtics have Simmons-Fournier-Tatum-Brown-Horford with Nesmith, Parker, and Grant Williams off the bench. They then fill out the roster with some veteran shooters and defenders.

The other way they could swoop in would be to make an aggressive offer on McCullom, who could be on the move as part of the rebuild.

If that's the case why not just deal directly with Portland and get Lillard?

[Celtics2021]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if was key to pairing Lillard with Tater .   

Brad let her rip chip .

I don't believe someone can be traded with other players in a trade deal for a certain amount of time after a trade.

Can anyone confirm?

Otherwise, yeah, you have to use Horford's salary and any non-Tatum/Brown players on the roster.

60 days.  Totally something that could happen pretty early on in the new league year given the timing of the trade to Boston.

[liam]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if was key to pairing Lillard with Tater .   

Brad let her rip chip .

I don't believe someone can be traded with other players in a trade deal for a certain amount of time after a trade.

Can anyone confirm?

Otherwise, yeah, you have to use Horford's salary and any non-Tatum/Brown players on the roster.

Is it 60 days?

[Ogaju]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if was key to pairing Lillard with Tater .   

Brad let her rip chip .

Doesn’t matter what you would do. Brad is not trading Horford.

[liam]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if was key to pairing Lillard with Tater .   

Brad let her rip chip .

I don't believe someone can be traded with other players in a trade deal for a certain amount of time after a trade.

Can anyone confirm?

Otherwise, yeah, you have to use Horford's salary and any non-Tatum/Brown players on the roster.

60 days.  Totally something that could happen pretty early on in the new league year given the timing of the trade to Boston.

If you can put Tatum, Brown and Lillard together you really have something.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Best deal sitting out there for Portland has got to be one based on Ben Simmons, draft picks, and Maxey. Just for a moment, assume that is the case.

Could the Celtics be opportunists here? Could they become a third team in the deal and take Ben Simmons on for Smart, Thompson, Rob Williams, Pritchard (college hero), Langford, and some future picks?

I know that's a lot to give up, but maybe the Blazers aren't thrilled with the idea of rebuilding around Simmons and want to go full rebuild instead of retooling around Simmons. The Celtics swoop in to offer them good value.

Celtics have Simmons-Fournier-Tatum-Brown-Horford with Nesmith, Parker, and Grant Williams off the bench. They then fill out the roster with some veteran shooters and defenders.

The other way they could swoop in would be to make an aggressive offer on McCullom, who could be on the move as part of the rebuild.

If that's the case why not just deal directly with Portland and get Lillard?

Portland will get Maxey and a bunch of firsts too, plus possibly Thybulle. Cs can't add that much on top of what I already suggested.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

lol It will take major balls by Brad to trade Horford.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if was key to pairing Lillard with Tater .   

Brad let her rip chip .

I don't believe someone can be traded with other players in a trade deal for a certain amount of time after a trade.

Can anyone confirm?

Otherwise, yeah, you have to use Horford's salary and any non-Tatum/Brown players on the roster.

Is it 60 days?

Part of the value of the Celtics offer with Horford would be the smaller and shorter long-term financial commitment, but the reality is that the Blazers would have to really like one of the Cs young players for them to be enticed to even think about it.

[liam]

Best deal sitting out there for Portland has got to be one based on Ben Simmons, draft picks, and Maxey. Just for a moment, assume that is the case.

Could the Celtics be opportunists here? Could they become a third team in the deal and take Ben Simmons on for Smart, Thompson, Rob Williams, Pritchard (college hero), Langford, and some future picks?

I know that's a lot to give up, but maybe the Blazers aren't thrilled with the idea of rebuilding around Simmons and want to go full rebuild instead of retooling around Simmons. The Celtics swoop in to offer them good value.

Celtics have Simmons-Fournier-Tatum-Brown-Horford with Nesmith, Parker, and Grant Williams off the bench. They then fill out the roster with some veteran shooters and defenders.

The other way they could swoop in would be to make an aggressive offer on McCullom, who could be on the move as part of the rebuild.

If that's the case why not just deal directly with Portland and get Lillard?

Portland will get Maxey and a bunch of firsts too, plus possibly Thybulle. Cs can't add that much on top of what I already suggested.

Portland is taking in 7 players?

[wiley]

no to giving up 23 year old all star Jaylen Brown for a 31 year old....

[Walker Wiggle]

no to giving up 23 year old all star Jaylen Brown for a 31 year old....

…who is scheduled to make $54m in the last year of his current contract, while in his mid-30s.

[Goldstar88]

no to giving up 23 year old all star Jaylen Brown for a 31 year old....

Not only that, but Lillard is making nearly $44m next season and the last year of his contract, at age 35, he will be making $54m!
Pass...

[Celtics2021]

If the Celtics want to have a huge tax bill, they could get Lillard without sending the Blazers all that much salary:

To Portland:
Marcus Smart
Robert Williams
Many 1st round picks
Draft rights to someone who's never coming to the NBA (Giorgos Printezis in this example)

To San Antonio (or any other team with cap space, but this seems like a Spurs signing to me):
Evan Fournier via S&T for at least $13.4 million in year 1
2nd round pick for helping

To Celtics:
Damien Lillard
Derrick Jones Jr.

In this trade, the Celtics can use Fournier's outgoing  salary to a different team to help aggregate with Smart to match with Lillard.  This move saves the Blazers $31 million this year with the inclusion of Jones, who fits into the rest of the Hayward TPE.  Portland gets no bad salary, and actually rids themselves of bad salary.  They get a huge trade exception if they want to go that route (Jones can match with Smart for their side of the deal, meaning they'd get a TPE of nearly $36 million for the difference between Lillard and Time Lord.)  The financial benefits of the deal hopefully make up for the good but not great draft compensation.

[LilRip]

JB for Lillard still feels like an incomplete move. We still need a 3rd star or fringe star. Granted, I don’t think we can keep JB and land Lillard so I’m ok giving JB up in that sense, but we need a 3rd star who won’t need the ball that often. Can that be Smart? Maybe. But I’m not convinced.

KD-Harden-Kyrie
Giannis-Middleton-Jrue
Embiid-Simmons-Harris

This is your competition right now. Tatum-Lillard-Smart… does this sound like a championship core that can beat those guys? I mean, it could be…