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Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2021, 01:47:52 PM »

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Just curious, but has anyone considered that the amount of time missed was maybe from the Celtics taking protocol more seriously?  I wouldn't be surprised if some other teams tried to hide results or things of that nature.  Who was doing the testing? Was it the teams? The league?  I don't know specifically what the procedure was for that sort of thing, but during the season I was taking the Celtics missing more time as a byproduct of people like  Stevens not trying to butt into the medical process and just doing what needed to be done.

I only bring this up because I think about the case with LeBron being at some sort of party of sorts and seeing no repercussions from the league for it.

Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2021, 02:14:38 PM »

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Just curious, but has anyone considered that the amount of time missed was maybe from the Celtics taking protocol more seriously?  I wouldn't be surprised if some other teams tried to hide results or things of that nature.  Who was doing the testing? Was it the teams? The league?  I don't know specifically what the procedure was for that sort of thing, but during the season I was taking the Celtics missing more time as a byproduct of people like  Stevens not trying to butt into the medical process and just doing what needed to be done.

I only bring this up because I think about the case with LeBron being at some sort of party of sorts and seeing no repercussions from the league for it.

Can you imagine the backlash against a franchise if it hid / falsified test results?  The lawsuits, the league discipline?


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Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2021, 03:34:41 PM »

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Over on CelticsBlog, towards the end of the season, I stated that there must have been some amount of irresponsibility going on with the team, since Boston far and away led the league in covid-related missed games, and I was vilified by several people for "pointing fingers" and "playing the blame game" when it was really "just bad luck for Boston."

I still maintain that there was a good deal of irresponsibility going on, and I think the numbers bear this out:

• Boston lost 157 player-days due to covid-19
• The "second-place" team in this category was the Dallas Mavericks with 118, which is high but still a good ways behind Boston.
• The league average was 55.3, so Boston's total was nearly 200% greater than the league average.

And that's all, or even mostly, "just bad luck"? No, I don't think so.

That's not counting the amount of injuries they got as well, sometimes it is just bad luck and just because people disagree with you doesn't mean that you're being "vilified.

Oh, I was vilified. Several people were telling me that I was just playing the blame game and that there was no need to look for any underlying causes for Boston's ridiculously high number of lost games. But when only one team was within striking distance of the Celtics (the Mavs) and the Celts had nearly 200% more missed time than the league average, that's begs for a better explanation than just bad luck.

The injuries are another story entirely, but don't get me started on those. ;D
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Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2021, 03:43:10 PM »

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Just curious, but has anyone considered that the amount of time missed was maybe from the Celtics taking protocol more seriously?  I wouldn't be surprised if some other teams tried to hide results or things of that nature.  Who was doing the testing? Was it the teams? The league?  I don't know specifically what the procedure was for that sort of thing, but during the season I was taking the Celtics missing more time as a byproduct of people like  Stevens not trying to butt into the medical process and just doing what needed to be done.

I only bring this up because I think about the case with LeBron being at some sort of party of sorts and seeing no repercussions from the league for it.

Can you imagine the backlash against a franchise if it hid / falsified test results?  The lawsuits, the league discipline?

Test results sure. But seems like nets wildly violated protocols from these reports and it is unclear if they are even gonna be punished

Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2021, 05:34:04 PM »

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The handling of Covid in this country is a disaster because it was made political. Pure and simple.

There is no mandate to get covid shots. The current president is clearly more serious about it than the former one, but he still is reduced to suggesting that getting vaccinated might be important. There has been progress, but there is still a lot to be desired.

My chiropractor's asst is a nice kid, but he won't get shots because he says it impinges on his "freedom." I still can't figure that one out.

And the sports commissioners, despite the millions being lost in revenues by players missing games because of covid, have stopped short of mandating shots for players and team personnel. So have the owners. Jerry Jones in his presser today said the Cowboys were "making progress" in getting his players vaccinated up to the 77% league target. Jerry is totally in on shots.  But Goodell has been treading lightly. These commissioners think nothing of suspending players for half a season at the suggestion of "sexual harassment" or wife quarrels--often without a lot of proof. But they stop short on Covid. Roger could be a lot tougher.

I got a haircut at my local barber last week. There were five customers waiting without masks on. The sign said "masks required unless you've had your Covid shots." How do you know who has had their shots? Nobody is asking for the card you get when you get your shots. Everybody has one.

So it's a dilemma. It was made political, and now businesses are stopping short of doing what they need to do. That is, make it more difficult for those who refuse to be vaccinated, and who in doing so make it more difficult for themselves and the rest of us.

Did Ainge get vaccinated? I'll bet he did a long time ago. His whole family. They probably had access a lot sooner than most of us.

Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2021, 06:06:18 PM »

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The handling of Covid in this country is a disaster because it was made political. Pure and simple.

There is no mandate to get covid shots. The current president is clearly more serious about it than the former one, but he still is reduced to suggesting that getting vaccinated might be important. There has been progress, but there is still a lot to be desired.

My chiropractor's asst is a nice kid, but he won't get shots because he says it impinges on his "freedom." I still can't figure that one out.

And the sports commissioners, despite the millions being lost in revenues by players missing games because of covid, have stopped short of mandating shots for players and team personnel. So have the owners. Jerry Jones in his presser today said the Cowboys were "making progress" in getting his players vaccinated up to the 77% league target. Jerry is totally in on shots.  But Goodell has been treading lightly. These commissioners think nothing of suspending players for half a season at the suggestion of "sexual harassment" or wife quarrels--often without a lot of proof. But they stop short on Covid. Roger could be a lot tougher.

I got a haircut at my local barber last week. There were five customers waiting without masks on. The sign said "masks required unless you've had your Covid shots." How do you know who has had their shots? Nobody is asking for the card you get when you get your shots. Everybody has one.

So it's a dilemma. It was made political, and now businesses are stopping short of doing what they need to do. That is, make it more difficult for those who refuse to be vaccinated, and who in doing so make it more difficult for themselves and the rest of us.

Did Ainge get vaccinated? I'll bet he did a long time ago. His whole family. They probably had access a lot sooner than most of us.
99.5%(or something really close to that) of all new cases, hospitalizations and deaths are made up of people that weren't vaccinated. Chew on that a minute.

Yeah, because of the Delta variant, breakthrough Covid is more prevalent, but it's still infinitesimally less likely to happen and when it does it almost never requires hospitalization.

I don't understand why this became so political. I know why. It was because it wasn't in the best interest of one person so he made it about sweeping beliefs. But why good, intelligent people of a certain political belief bought that load of garbage, is beyond me.

And, I don't get the anti-vax crowd, especially basing it on a decision regarding personal freedoms. I am guessing most of those people got measles, mumps, rubella and polio vaccinations as young children and are alive, healthy and not crippled today because they got those shots. But yeah, as an adult don't do something to keep you and your loved ones alive and healthy because somehow an inoculation is impinging your personal freedoms! I can't roll my eyes hard enough at that.

Now, being hesitant because of unknown long term affects, hesitant because as people of color there is a bad history regarding the government pushing vaccinations on those people, hesitant because the whole process was so fast....those things I get.

But the numbers don't lie. Almost the only people getting Covid are those that haven't got the shots. Get the shots everyone. Athletes who make gobs of money should have been getting their shots as soon as it opened to them. Not getting them is only hurting themselves and the teams and countries(in the case of the Olympics) they represent.




Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2021, 08:19:55 PM »

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Over on CelticsBlog, towards the end of the season, I stated that there must have been some amount of irresponsibility going on with the team, since Boston far and away led the league in covid-related missed games, and I was vilified by several people for "pointing fingers" and "playing the blame game" when it was really "just bad luck for Boston."

I still maintain that there was a good deal of irresponsibility going on, and I think the numbers bear this out:

• Boston lost 157 player-days due to covid-19
• The "second-place" team in this category was the Dallas Mavericks with 118, which is high but still a good ways behind Boston.
• The league average was 55.3, so Boston's total was nearly 200% greater than the league average.

And that's all, or even mostly, "just bad luck"? No, I don't think so.

That's not counting the amount of injuries they got as well, sometimes it is just bad luck and just because people disagree with you doesn't mean that you're being "vilified.

Oh, I was vilified. Several people were telling me that I was just playing the blame game and that there was no need to look for any underlying causes for Boston's ridiculously high number of lost games. But when only one team was within striking distance of the Celtics (the Mavs) and the Celts had nearly 200% more missed time than the league average, that's begs for a better explanation than just bad luck.

The injuries are another story entirely, but don't get me started on those. ;D

Didn't they *also* have a reputation for not caring about Covid?

Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2021, 08:59:55 PM »

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Over on CelticsBlog, towards the end of the season, I stated that there must have been some amount of irresponsibility going on with the team, since Boston far and away led the league in covid-related missed games, and I was vilified by several people for "pointing fingers" and "playing the blame game" when it was really "just bad luck for Boston."

I still maintain that there was a good deal of irresponsibility going on, and I think the numbers bear this out:

• Boston lost 157 player-days due to covid-19
• The "second-place" team in this category was the Dallas Mavericks with 118, which is high but still a good ways behind Boston.
• The league average was 55.3, so Boston's total was nearly 200% greater than the league average.

And that's all, or even mostly, "just bad luck"? No, I don't think so.

That's not counting the amount of injuries they got as well, sometimes it is just bad luck and just because people disagree with you doesn't mean that you're being "vilified.

Oh, I was vilified. Several people were telling me that I was just playing the blame game and that there was no need to look for any underlying causes for Boston's ridiculously high number of lost games. But when only one team was within striking distance of the Celtics (the Mavs) and the Celts had nearly 200% more missed time than the league average, that's begs for a better explanation than just bad luck.

The injuries are another story entirely, but don't get me started on those. ;D

Didn't they *also* have a reputation for not caring about Covid?

200%??

Re: Why Didn’t The Celts Take Covid More Seriously?
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2021, 09:02:56 PM »

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Over on CelticsBlog, towards the end of the season, I stated that there must have been some amount of irresponsibility going on with the team, since Boston far and away led the league in covid-related missed games, and I was vilified by several people for "pointing fingers" and "playing the blame game" when it was really "just bad luck for Boston."

I still maintain that there was a good deal of irresponsibility going on, and I think the numbers bear this out:

• Boston lost 157 player-days due to covid-19
• The "second-place" team in this category was the Dallas Mavericks with 118, which is high but still a good ways behind Boston.
• The league average was 55.3, so Boston's total was nearly 200% greater than the league average.

And that's all, or even mostly, "just bad luck"? No, I don't think so.

That's not counting the amount of injuries they got as well, sometimes it is just bad luck and just because people disagree with you doesn't mean that you're being "vilified.

Oh, I was vilified. Several people were telling me that I was just playing the blame game and that there was no need to look for any underlying causes for Boston's ridiculously high number of lost games. But when only one team was within striking distance of the Celtics (the Mavs) and the Celts had nearly 200% more missed time than the league average, that's begs for a better explanation than just bad luck.

The injuries are another story entirely, but don't get me started on those. ;D

Didn't they *also* have a reputation for not caring about Covid?

200%??
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