2021-2022 Point Guard?

[Birdman]

Just read on Yahoo that Spencer Dinwiddle wants to go to either Lakers or Clippers..but his demands may be to high..if he does go to Clips, we can trade Thompson for Beverly straight up?

[ausbacker]

Just read on Yahoo that Spencer Dinwiddle wants to go to either Lakers or Clippers..but his demands may be to high..if he does go to Clips, we can trade Thompson for Beverly straight up?

Why would we want a worse version of Smart?

[celts10]

I wouldn't mind George Hill or Ricky Rubio.

[feckless]

If Marcus Smart is our starting PG next season then we are in big trouble

Yes we are!

[mr. dee]

Patty Mills is available. He's an FA this season. I heard he have a good relation with our new coach so Brad should at least give him an offer.

[showtime]

What we get with Smart is pretty good playmaking for others, an average offensive talent, when he doesn't try to do too much, and an all league defender who can switch and guard anyone in the league well, except maybe Joel Emblid. Having 3 defenders (also the J's) who can guard just about anyone, makes the Celtics  defense formidable. I think PP is a strong back-up. I don't think we need more than a league minimum 3rd PG. The only way this does not work is if Smart takes many more shots than he should, I am willing to give it a try, and spend our resources on Fournier, extending Williams, and maybe picking up a 4.

On the other hand, he isn't particularly complementary to Tatum and Brown, which is the core objective of management. He slows down the pace and movement, and he has questionable judgement. He's no longer an awful 3 point shooter, but he's still not good enough for teams to stop cheating off to help out. He can't beat anyone off the dribble, except old-man style.

He's acceptable for now, but we'd get a lot better if he played a different role.

If we don't make a move, I think it might be worth it to try Tremont Waters for 10-15 games and see how it goes. He's a good passer, he can shoot, he's a remarkably good defender for such a small player, and he brings pace that Marcus doesn't. He's got a toughness about him. It could very well not work, but we really need some pace to get the most out of our stars and it might be worth a try.

My thoughts exactly!! Waters may be the best pure point guard on the team, at this point!

[seancally]

If not Smart, then ideally a strong third wheel with Tatum and Brown. Count me in on the (likely BS) McCollum rumblings. Would love him in green.

Smart, fine. He’ll do. Can’t decide if he’s more likely to be a responsible, measured, playmaking PG; or to look around and think, “huh, guess I’m the 3rd option” — and try to take on more offensive load. The latter would be a nightmare.

Smart is an excellent defender but this team can be a great defensive team without him. Other teams manage to defend well without having Marcus Smart. You need good athletes, good size, and good effort.

Smart as starting PG - ok - but keep an eye on that. We gonna pay him to do that going forward? We’ll see.

Love me some PP and hope he gets more run as the backup.

[Big333223]

Patty Mills is available. He's an FA this season. I heard he have a good relation with our new coach so Brad should at least give him an offer.

If there isn't a bigger deal to be made elsewhere, this is exactly the kind of signing I'd love to see. A vet with championship experience who still has some left in the tank. And if I remember right, Mills is tough for a little guy.

[footey]

Patty Mills is available. He's an FA this season. I heard he have a good relation with our new coach so Brad should at least give him an offer.

If there isn't a bigger deal to be made elsewhere, this is exactly the kind of signing I'd love to see. A vet with championship experience who still has some left in the tank. And if I remember right, Mills is tough for a little guy.

He's not the type of PG they need. He is really a small shooting guard. Not a play maker.

[footey]

What we get with Smart is pretty good playmaking for others, an average offensive talent, when he doesn't try to do too much, and an all league defender who can switch and guard anyone in the league well, except maybe Joel Emblid. Having 3 defenders (also the J's) who can guard just about anyone, makes the Celtics  defense formidable. I think PP is a strong back-up. I don't think we need more than a league minimum 3rd PG. The only way this does not work is if Smart takes many more shots than he should, I am willing to give it a try, and spend our resources on Fournier, extending Williams, and maybe picking up a 4.

On the other hand, he isn't particularly complementary to Tatum and Brown, which is the core objective of management. He slows down the pace and movement, and he has questionable judgement. He's no longer an awful 3 point shooter, but he's still not good enough for teams to stop cheating off to help out. He can't beat anyone off the dribble, except old-man style.

He's acceptable for now, but we'd get a lot better if he played a different role.

If we don't make a move, I think it might be worth it to try Tremont Waters for 10-15 games and see how it goes. He's a good passer, he can shoot, he's a remarkably good defender for such a small player, and he brings pace that Marcus doesn't. He's got a toughness about him. It could very well not work, but we really need some pace to get the most out of our stars and it might be worth a try.

My thoughts exactly!! Waters may be the best pure point guard on the team, at this point!

Waters would be perfect if he were a few inches bigger, and more disciplined as a shooter.

[PAOBoston]

What we get with Smart is pretty good playmaking for others, an average offensive talent, when he doesn't try to do too much, and an all league defender who can switch and guard anyone in the league well, except maybe Joel Emblid. Having 3 defenders (also the J's) who can guard just about anyone, makes the Celtics  defense formidable. I think PP is a strong back-up. I don't think we need more than a league minimum 3rd PG. The only way this does not work is if Smart takes many more shots than he should, I am willing to give it a try, and spend our resources on Fournier, extending Williams, and maybe picking up a 4.

On the other hand, he isn't particularly complementary to Tatum and Brown, which is the core objective of management. He slows down the pace and movement, and he has questionable judgement. He's no longer an awful 3 point shooter, but he's still not good enough for teams to stop cheating off to help out. He can't beat anyone off the dribble, except old-man style.

He's acceptable for now, but we'd get a lot better if he played a different role.

If we don't make a move, I think it might be worth it to try Tremont Waters for 10-15 games and see how it goes. He's a good passer, he can shoot, he's a remarkably good defender for such a small player, and he brings pace that Marcus doesn't. He's got a toughness about him. It could very well not work, but we really need some pace to get the most out of our stars and it might be worth a try.

My thoughts exactly!! Waters may be the best pure point guard on the team, at this point!

Waters would be perfect if he were a few inches bigger, and more disciplined as a shooter.

Tremont Waters would be perfect if he was actually good at basketball. He’s literally the worst player on the Cs and quite literally doesn’t deserve a roster spot. I miss Shane Larkin. Guy was a perfect 3rd pg off the bench.

[spikelovetheCelts]

SO No one thinks Carsen Edwards can rise up, hmm. We still have some trade exemption to use. 
I think Smart gets the shot he has earned it. If he sucks Trade him at the deadlne. If  Dennis smith is there for a low Salary I think he would be good for a third PG.

[Big333223]

Patty Mills is available. He's an FA this season. I heard he have a good relation with our new coach so Brad should at least give him an offer.

If there isn't a bigger deal to be made elsewhere, this is exactly the kind of signing I'd love to see. A vet with championship experience who still has some left in the tank. And if I remember right, Mills is tough for a little guy.

He's not the type of PG they need. He is really a small shooting guard. Not a play maker.

My first choice would be the Celtics magic a deal to get Lonzo so that they do get that pass-first pg. But, barring that, I don't need the back-up pg (which is what Mills would likely be) to be in that mold. Just a steady hand who can make plays and operate whatever system Udoka puts in place.

Mills seems perfect for that role.

[bogg]

Considering that the last four starting point guards have either been shipped out as damaged goods or walked on bad terms in free agency, I really hate it for Marcus that the narrative going into next year is already starting to get framed that he's the problem at point guard holding the team back. In reality the franchise can't keep a lead guard and the do-it-all sixth man is going to bail them out by playing out of position for a season+ since the none of the remaining full-time point guards are better at the job than he is. He'll even get to spend the season getting complained about on sports radio by warehouse workers and FedEx drivers for his trouble.

[showtime]

Considering that the last four starting point guards have either been shipped out as damaged goods or walked on bad terms in free agency, I really hate it for Marcus that the narrative going into next year is already starting to get framed that he's the problem at point guard holding the team back. In reality the franchise can't keep a lead guard and the do-it-all sixth man is going to bail them out by playing out of position for a season+ since the none of the remaining full-time point guards are better at the job than he is. He'll even get to spend the season getting complained about on sports radio by warehouse workers and FedEx drivers for his trouble.

playing out of position? Do you really think he is a shooting guard?