So the Celtics traded away their starting PG... What about Yam Madar?

[footey]

If Tre Waters was 3-4" taller, that is the kind of point guard we could use. But alas, he is not.

[radiohead]

Smart starts at PG he is better suited in that role.

However, I don't think Smart is in green to start the season.

I can’t imagine GBS trading Smart

Is he eligible for an extension next season? I imagine they may consider trading him if negotiations don’t go well.

[Ogaju]

Smart starts at PG he is better suited in that role.

However, I don't think Smart is in green to start the season.

I can’t imagine GBS trading Smart

Is he eligible for an extension next season? I imagine they may consider trading him if negotiations don’t go well.

Is it GBS, or PBS?

[jambr380]

Smart starts at PG he is better suited in that role.

However, I don't think Smart is in green to start the season.

I can’t imagine GBS trading Smart

Is he eligible for an extension next season? I imagine they may consider trading him if negotiations don’t go well.

He is eligible for an extension this off-season. Since he isn’t an auto-max guy, we won’t know for sure whether he definitely intends on re-signing, but hopefully they will have had conversations. I’d hate to lose Smart for nothing.

[Celtics4ever]

I am very leery of that league after Dragan Bender.....

If Tre Waters was 3-4" taller, that is the kind of point guard we could use. But alas, he is not.

I disagree no one is no more self promoting than Tremont.  Horrible PG.

[cman88]

maybe we go back to a more traditional lineup

smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford/Timelord

Horford back to the 4 with a true center next to him.

[LilRip]

Smart starts at PG he is better suited in that role.

However, I don't think Smart is in green to start the season.

I can’t imagine GBS trading Smart

Is he eligible for an extension next season? I imagine they may consider trading him if negotiations don’t go well.

Is it GBS, or PBS?

This is a good question. I was thinking he was the GM but he is President of basketball operations too

[RJD1974]

maybe we go back to a more traditional lineup

smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford/Timelord

Horford back to the 4 with a true center next to him.

I've had that thought too. But they might end up with a spacing issue, like the Theis/Thompson lineups earlier this season. That's what sunk Al with the Sixers when they tried it, after all.

Then again, the situations would be slightly different. If we match up the true shooting ability between the two sets of starters, I think we'd end up something like this:

TL = Simmons
Smart = Embiid
Jaylen > Richardson
Jayson > Harris

And, of course, Al = Al

Who knows? Maybe it'd work.

[Celtics2021]

I am very leery of that league after Dragan Bender.....

If Tre Waters was 3-4" taller, that is the kind of point guard we could use. But alas, he is not.

I disagree no one is no more self promoting than Tremont.  Horrible PG.

To be fair, Bender wasn’t a starter in that league.  NBA scouts were at times evaluating him off practice sessions.  The hype was really silly.

Yam has had far more success in Israel than Bender had pre-draft.

[jambr380]

I am very leery of that league after Dragan Bender.....

If anything, it makes me more confident about him. Bender was absolutely horrible in that league before being drafted. He played again in the league this season - 5 years later - and he was basically just average. Yam far outplayed him and he is 3 years younger than Bender.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/dragan-bender-1.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/yam-madar-1.html

That is not to say I am ready to hand Madar the keys to the starting PG spot, but he definitely has promise. His stock has definitely risen since we drafted him last year.

[hwangjini_1]

i most certainly am not insightful about basket X and O. but watching the celtics and then-CBS offense, once the celtics were over mid-court they did not seem to have a traditional PG role for anyone. lots of ball movement by everyone seemed to be the goal.

smart, kemba, PP, et al were used to bring the ball over the mid-court line, and that was as close to a traditional PG as i saw. by the end of the season tatum was often bringing the ball up. i think then-CBS wanted a ball handler to bring the ball up, then switch to his offensive schemes.

so, for the role of brining up the ball over mid-court, i think you will see smart, pritchard, tatum, and langford do that a lot. the celtics front office has already mentioned how they want langford to handle the ball more and believe in his abilities there.

so, having "the Yammer" (TM) as a celtic would be nice, but not essential. besides, it will take sometime for him to adjust to the nba level of play.

i think in the future the hot debate topic on CS will "who is better? the Yammer or 9 mile? 

[Celtics2021]

I think it’s rather likely Madar will come over.  Stevens generally felt there were too many rookies on the roster.  Madar seems ready for a developmental spot on an NBA roster, so trading the 16th pick will help limit the rookies if we include Madar.

But to project him as anything more than a back-end roster type for year 1 seems extremely optimistic.

[td450]

i most certainly am not insightful about basket X and O. but watching the celtics and then-CBS offense, once the celtics were over mid-court they did not seem to have a traditional PG role for anyone. lots of ball movement by everyone seemed to be the goal.

smart, kemba, PP, et al were used to bring the ball over the mid-court line, and that was as close to a traditional PG as i saw. by the end of the season tatum was often bringing the ball up. i think then-CBS wanted a ball handler to bring the ball up, then switch to his offensive schemes.

so, for the role of brining up the ball over mid-court, i think you will see smart, pritchard, tatum, and langford do that a lot. the celtics front office has already mentioned how they want langford to handle the ball more and believe in his abilities there.

so, having "the Yammer" (TM) as a celtic would be nice, but not essential. besides, it will take sometime for him to adjust to the nba level of play.

i think in the future the hot debate topic on CS will "who is better? the Yammer or 9 mile? 

That may be true, but players have to make plays. Anyone on the floor can promote movement, make good reads and throw well timed, accurate passes. Robert Williams helps. Al helps. A guard that can do that would help too. Kemba was never better than OK at this. We saw that Pritchard was somewhat better when he was on the floor. So could someone new.

[tonydelk]

I think it’s rather likely Madar will come over.  Stevens generally felt there were too many rookies on the roster.  Madar seems ready for a developmental spot on an NBA roster, so trading the 16th pick will help limit the rookies if we include Madar.

But to project him as anything more than a back-end roster type for year 1 seems extremely optimistic.

Why?  PP will tell you that if you are prepared you can have success as a backup in your first year.  Mader is playing against grown men.  As tough and most likely tougher competition then College.  He had success there so why can't he have similar success to PP in his first year.  I'll admit I only watch Yam's highlights but he is skilled and should definitely have a career as a backup PG.  Yam actually has decent size at 6'3 while PP is only 6'1.  He's also known for his D.  He can shoot.  He's your typical PG.  We do not have that on our roster right now.  We have a SG who can't shoot who is a good passer in Marcus Smart.  We have a good backup PG who is small in PP.  Yam is the wild card.  He's probably better then what is out there on the FA market that are in the C's price range right now.    Now I'm not saying I expect Yam to win ROTY but I do think he has a shot to contribute.  The below is a good video.  Yam is a good kid.  Good head on his shoulders and I'm excited for him now that we have no draft pick.

https://youtu.be/-9RzkSiiMEU

[wiley]

I'm excited to see Yam get minutes on the C's this year.  This team needs more than just a steady hand and solid playmaking.  It needs passion...Yam will boost in that department I think, a little bit on offense maybe but probably more on defense.