Author Topic: Agree or Disagree: 1. We Need Depth 2. We Can Only Get Depth by Trading Brown  (Read 3765 times)

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Offline GreenlyGreeny

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Most of our dollars are locked up in Tatum, Brown and Kemba. Agree or disagree with the following:

1. We desperately need depth.
2. This is our worst bench in the past 6-7 years.
3. Tatum is our franchise player and cannot be traded except for another franchise player.
4. Nobody will take on Kemba’s contract without us giving up picks.
5. Therefore the only way to truly address our depth problem is by moving Brown, an asset, for assets. A lesser asset, Marcus Smart, could possibly be moved for two assets as well.
6. It’s incredibly difficult to win a title without a solid bench.

Online Jiri Welsch

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1. Agree
2. Disagree

There is no point in trading Brown for depth. Trade Kemba for depth and lose a couple picks.

Offline Wretch

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You nod depth for the regular season and in the playoffs.

JT
JB
Kemba
RW3
Smart

Are a good core for a playoff team. After that the Cs are betting on Langford, William's, and Nesmith to develop.  Fournier would be a great 5th if Smart comes off the bench or 6th man if Smart starts.

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What about NBA history tells you that depth is more important than star players?

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Offline gouki88

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1. Yes
2. No

It's that simple
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Offline showtime

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 I would move Brown for KAT. I would move Smart for a scorer! Nothing worse than a shooting guard who can't shoot!

Offline Tr1boy

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I would move Brown for KAT. I would move Smart for a scorer! Nothing worse than a shooting guard who can't shoot!

You know that, other teams are aware of this also...

Offline KG Living Legend

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 Agree we need more depth.  Disagree u trade Brown for depth.  You trade Brown for Towns that's about it.

 Let's hope for a healthy year for kemba. Trading him in the final year will be much easier.

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Just Keep Jaylen Brown

Offline wdleehi

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Celtics have depth.   They need a stronger 6 through 8.  They need players that know what to do in situations.

They do not need to trade Brown for multiple players. 

Offline coco

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We’ll just have to be patient.  I can’t see a path forward until Kemba is out of the books....and that won’t be up to management.

Moving Smart might improve some areas -as ball movement....depending who you get.


Offline Csfan1984

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1. No. You need just 2 good players off the bench. A Guard that can still handle the ball and create. Along with a big that can swap between 4 and 5 and not be a liability on either side of the floor. This is why Fournier was a nice pick up but losing Theis instead of TT was bad.

2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No. If your starting five is weak in two or more areas and you don't have a player playing like a MVP you aren't winning. You don't trade a possible Scottie Pippen wing for a 6th or 7th man or to even round out starters. JB covers the toughest SF or PF assignment and let's Tatum be a better scorer while still putting up 24 a game. He is exactly what you put around Tatum. We need more JBs on the team not less.

6. No, The bench isn't the the difference in the C's bad play this year. It was injuries and covid effecting the top 7. They never developed a chemistry, for a team that wants everyone to pass, dribble, shoot. It got disjointed and ugly.

Offline td450

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Just a general observation:

Of all the mechanisms that a team might use to improve, trades are the hardest way.

Trades work the best at correcting a team imbalance. Someone as good as Jaylen Brown is never that type of problem.

Smart, Fournier, Langford and Nesmith are an imbalance. That's 4 of our top 8 players who play shooting guard, and that's Jaylen's best slot too.

We need two complimentary players, some normal player development and we are one of the top 5 teams in the league. If we just had a pretty good power forward, we would improve dramatically.

Offline Celtics2021

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Just a general observation:

Of all the mechanisms that a team might use to improve, trades are the hardest way.

Trades work the best at correcting a team imbalance. Someone as good as Jaylen Brown is never that type of problem.

Smart, Fournier, Langford and Nesmith are an imbalance. That's 4 of our top 8 players who play shooting guard, and that's Jaylen's best slot too.

We need two complimentary players, some normal player development and we are one of the top 5 teams in the league. If we just had a pretty good power forward, we would improve dramatically.

I generally agree with you with the exception that Smart's best position is PG.  However, Kemba's best position at this point is closer to the 2 than 1, so the imbalance persists.

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The only position or role that we do not have sufficient depth at is PF.  We don't have a starting quality PF and we don't have any real depth either.  At every other position, I feel we have plenty of depth:

PG:  Kemba, Smart, Pritchard
SG:  Brown, Fournier, Langford
SF:  Tatum, (Fournier), Nesmith
PF:  GWill, Ojeleye, Parker
C:  RWill, Thompson, Kornet

To me, the PF position clearly stands out.  The C position is a touch light but it would be fine if we had a decent PF to play.  You can get by with limited centers if you have a good PF but it becomes a glaring weakness overall in our case.  We don't have even 1 true starting level big on our team.  Not 1.  Unless you are the Nets, that is not going to cut it.

There are some PFs/Bigs that I would go as far as trading Brown to get but not too many.  And I would not trade Brown for any guard/wing depth players.  Never.

For example, Brown for Towns.  Trading star for star but balancing out our roster.  I would trade Kemba for depth but only if it included some big depth (understandably that is not going to be a star).

Now if we don't sign Fournier, then that does create a depth issue at wing.  I am not sure we can count on Nesmith and Langford to cover that but they might.  Obviously, we are better served with Fournier if we can afford him.