after effects of Wyc and Ainge protecting Stevens but not the team..

[Tr1boy]

Earlier this season when the Celts were struggling.... Ainge and Wyc came went on 98.5 to try to put out the flame

but instead they ended up protecting Brad and making statements like....that the team were not contenders,  the players don't take lesser opponents seriously/preparation is lacking.... don't blame Brad

I wonder if the players resent Brad like how a sibling that gets blame vs  brother/sister that get all the praise

and now Brad is the president

If the team are not the biggest fans of Ainge (gone), Wyc and now Brad.  Isn't that a weird dynamic?

They don't have to be best friends. But lack of respect would be a bad thing

Is the only solution at this point, to hire a coach to the "core" liking??   However that coach will be in the middle of things, since they have to work with/respect Brad, Wyc etc.

I personally think, some of the players shouldn't be so sensitive to this.  Brad has been here a while and been successful most of the time.  And the truth is, that the team was not a contender/at that level.   In a way should lit a fire under their azz

On the flipside, Wyc and Ainge should have never came on radio and said those things. Just kept it in house/private

Ainge especially.  He came on the radio show, got grilled.... blamed himself, but also some of it on the roster/team .... never on Brad

[W8ting2McHale]

I think everyone is over analyzing this change way too much.

It was a frustrating season that didn’t come close to meeting expectations. Last season ended on a sour note after exceeding expectations. Then the Lakers got banner 17. No one here enjoyed that.

As for the big changes causing resentment amongst the players. I haven’t seen it. I didn’t hear anything from them the past month that sounded like resentment.

Tatum was joking with Evan Turner that he should get a shot at the open job. That didn’t look like a disgruntled star upset by the situation.

If all the “players have tuned out Brad” talk was manufactured by the media, then I would think the team would be happy for Brad. So far they seem to be, even if they weren’t expecting it.

[Tr1boy]

I think everyone is over analyzing this change way too much.

It was a frustrating season that didn’t come close to meeting expectations. Last season ended on a sour note after exceeding expectations. Then the Lakers got banner 17. No one here enjoyed that.

As for the big changes causing resentment amongst the players. I haven’t seen it. I didn’t hear anything from them the past month that sounded like resentment.

Tatum was joking with Evan Turner that he should get a shot at the open job. That didn’t look like a disgruntled star upset by the situation.

If all the “players have tuned out Brad” talk was manufactured by the media, then I would think the team would be happy for Brad. So far they seem to be, even if they weren’t expecting it.

Again , don't expect them to be best buds....  but isnt it also a little strange that there has been no congratulatory for Ainge or Stevens on sm? Coach K has received praise

[Tr1boy]

I think everyone is over analyzing this change way too much.

It was a frustrating season that didn’t come close to meeting expectations. Last season ended on a sour note after exceeding expectations. Then the Lakers got banner 17. No one here enjoyed that.

As for the big changes causing resentment amongst the players. I haven’t seen it. I didn’t hear anything from them the past month that sounded like resentment.

Tatum was joking with Evan Turner that he should get a shot at the open job. That didn’t look like a disgruntled star upset by the situation.

If all the “players have tuned out Brad” talk was manufactured by the media, then I would think the team would be happy for Brad. So far they seem to be, even if they weren’t expecting it.

2 days ago – via Jared Weiss @ The Athletic
That chemistry was strained not just by health, COVID protocols, and public pressure, but the way the Celtics were discussed by team leadership, according to multiple sources familiar with players’ thinking. There were several inflection points where the roster might not have felt supported, particularly after Ainge and team governor Wyc Grousbeck gave a series of interviews ahead of the trade deadline with their assessments that the team was not competitive.

[Roy H.]

There were several inflection points where the roster might not have felt supported

What does this even mean?  It’s weasel language that doesn’t report anything.

That’s one of my pet peeves with “reporting” these days.  Lots of sound and fury that signifies nothing.

[Tr1boy]

There were several inflection points where the roster might not have felt supported

What does this even mean?  It’s weasel language that doesn’t report anything.

That’s one of my pet peeves with “reporting” these days.  Lots of sound and fury that signifies nothing.

Isn't Weiss (athletic) source pretty good usually? 

[ETNCeltics]

LOL at the Athletic calling Wyc a governor. No, he's the owner, whether pc morons hate the language or not.

[Roy H.]

There were several inflection points where the roster might not have felt supported

What does this even mean?  It’s weasel language that doesn’t report anything.

That’s one of my pet peeves with “reporting” these days.  Lots of sound and fury that signifies nothing.

Isn't Weiss (athletic) source pretty good usually?

I can’t remember any of his sources breaking anything. He is usually pretty good just at reporting “on record” stuff.

But take that sentence as written. It doesn’t say anything. The team might not have felt supported. Or, the team might have felt supported.

[Tr1boy]

LOL at the Athletic calling Wyc a governor. No, he's the owner, whether pc morons hate the language or not.

Apparently all nba owners ...

According to commissioner Adam Silver, the NBA is continuing to move away from the use of the term "owner" to describe those with controlling interest of teams in favor of the terms "Governor of the team" and "alternate Governor." 

[W8ting2McHale]

There were several inflection points where the roster might not have felt supported

What does this even mean?  It’s weasel language that doesn’t report anything.

That’s one of my pet peeves with “reporting” these days.  Lots of sound and fury that signifies nothing.

Isn't Weiss (athletic) source pretty good usually?

Probably, possibly?

But in this case not so much. His sources were not the players, and apparently not the usual “team sources” either. Just unnamed people supposedly aware of “the players thinking.” Not even a reference to what was discussed or said, just a possible 3rd party interpretation.

That’s not ambiguous, now, is it?

-So, Marcus told you this?
-Kinda, I work the drive through at Dunkin’ and he was hella mad sitting in an Escalade yesterday.
-And Marcus was mad about something Danny Ainge said?
-Yeah, Pretty sure.

[angryguy77]

LOL at the Athletic calling Wyc a governor. No, he's the owner, whether pc morons hate the language or not.

Apparently all nba owners ...

According to commissioner Adam Silver, the NBA is continuing to move away from the use of the term "owner" to describe those with controlling interest of teams in favor of the terms "Governor of the team" and "alternate Governor." 

Yes and sorry for the detour here, but we now live in a society that if you dare go against the grain, you run basically have to either cave or lose money or worse. To these owners, going with the change is an easy out. I don't see it as proof they actually agree with it.
The whole change in terminology is just ridiculous and makes no sense.

[gouki88]

Incredibly non-committal language makes it hard to really care about these kind of stories.

[KGs Knee]

The Celtics could have won the title and Danny would have stepped down regardless. He's a tired man, I wouldn't read anything else into it.

As for Brad, this feels an awful lot like it was more about Wyc being cheap than anything. Brad was already owed a lot of money. What better way to save money than hire a guy you are already paying regardless. He'll get his shot, though, so I hope he comes through.

[vjcsmoke]

Ainge did an incredible job of acquiring Tatum and Jaylen in the Draft.  His failure was his inability to put the right pieces around them to set them up for playoff success.

Imagine if Paul George is on this team or Kahwi Leonard or even Myles Turner. 
At least 2 of those players were right there for the taking in George and Turner, not sure if they could have landed Kawhi, but Ainge failed to pull the trigger and failed to package the Celtics extra 1st round draft picks into a 3rd star.

The roster was the biggest problem, not Stevens, that's why he's still here.  Also the Celtics didn't want to eat his contract after making a long term commitment to him.

[Roy H.]

Ainge did an incredible job of acquiring Tatum and Jaylen in the Draft.  His failure was his inability to put the right pieces around them to set them up for playoff success.

Imagine if Paul George is on this team or Kahwi Leonard or even Myles Turner. 
At least 2 of those players were right there for the taking in George and Turner, not sure if they could have landed Kawhi, but Ainge failed to pull the trigger and failed to package the Celtics extra 1st round draft picks into a 3rd star.

The roster was the biggest problem, not Stevens, that's why he's still here.  Also the Celtics didn't want to eat his contract after making a long term commitment to him.

After watching Paul George next to Kawhi, I’m pretty sure that he is not the answer. Same thing with Myles Turner: he wouldn’t have saved our season.