C’s Off-Season FA Acquisitions

[DefenseWinsChamps]

One thing the team needs to get away from is giving max contracts to players who don't belong in that category. Don't overpay with a max contract to get B+ level players (Horford, Hayward, Walker). It's one thing to pay max contracts to superstar players, because they can raise the level of play of everyone around them. B+ level players can't do that.

I would love to trade Kemba for a combination of guys like Jae Crowder, Norman Powell or Tim Hardaway Jr. Professional basketball players who don't back down from anyone.

Hindsight is 20/20. Kemba was worth a shot after Kyrie bolted and it just didn’t work out. Bottom line, you don’t give a max deal to any 6’ guard (or under), that is not named Chris Paul.

There is a reason MJ didn’t want to pay Kemba. Hopefully Danny learns from this and doesn’t make that mistake again.

MJ did want to pay for Kemba, but Kemba decided not to stay. MJ was lucky to recoup with Rozier.

Don't revise history needlessly. Kemba hasn't worked out in Boston well (yet?), but that's not because it was the wrong move at the time.

[Birdman]

Harrell of the Lakers has a player option.. like to see him here if he opts out but doubt Celtics have any flexibility with their payroll to get a deal done

[Goldstar88]

One thing the team needs to get away from is giving max contracts to players who don't belong in that category. Don't overpay with a max contract to get B+ level players (Horford, Hayward, Walker). It's one thing to pay max contracts to superstar players, because they can raise the level of play of everyone around them. B+ level players can't do that.

I would love to trade Kemba for a combination of guys like Jae Crowder, Norman Powell or Tim Hardaway Jr. Professional basketball players who don't back down from anyone.

Hindsight is 20/20. Kemba was worth a shot after Kyrie bolted and it just didn’t work out. Bottom line, you don’t give a max deal to any 6’ guard (or under), that is not named Chris Paul.

There is a reason MJ didn’t want to pay Kemba. Hopefully Danny learns from this and doesn’t make that mistake again.

MJ did want to pay for Kemba, but Kemba decided not to stay. MJ was lucky to recoup with Rozier.

Don't revise history needlessly. Kemba hasn't worked out in Boston well (yet?), but that's not because it was the wrong move at the time.

Ok sure...He wanted to keep him at $60+ million less than the max that Kemba was eligible for. So he lowballed and Walker bounced. When you do that to your star player, it would seem that you are not Serious about trying to keep the player around.

[Kuberski33]

First priority for me is moving Kemba and I'd be willing to give up anyone except Tatum, Jaylen, R Williams and Nesmith to do it. Then I'd draft a PG and/or get a pass first PG like Ricky Rubio here.

I'd try to re-sign Fornier.  I'd keep the 4 guys I mentioned before plus Pritchard - maybe keep Parker as a project and literally move everyone else off the roster.  I don't want any of them back.

Then I'd bring in some toughness - though preferably not the Marcus Morris shoot first types.  They need more players willing to move the basketball.

They need a shooter for the bench and maybe a Danny Green type - one of those guys who does the little things that help you win games.

Then fill in the rest of the roster with spare parts. I'd try to move Marcus Smart, but if not, bring him back - just make sure you don't have a shoot first lead guard to pair with him.  We've already seen that it doesn't work.  No way I give him an extension.

[mr. dee]

I'd try to sign Lowry on a reasonable deal. He's 36 now and I doubt anyone would offer him anywhere close to max like Al or Hayward did.

I'd also bring back Baynes who now have an extended shooting range if Raptors decided to part ways with him.

Other players that should be considered:

Kevon Looney (Player Option)
Tony Snell
Serge Ibaka (Player Option)
Nerlens Noel
Gary Trent
Wayne Ellington
Otto Porter
Jarrett Allen (Cavs likely to keep him)
James Johnson
Patty Mills
Will Barton
Javale McGee

[gouki88]

I'd try to sign Lowry on a reasonable deal. He's 36 now and I doubt anyone would offer him anywhere close to max like Al or Hayward did.

I'd also bring back Baynes who now have an extended shooting range if Raptors decided to part ways with him.

Other players that should be considered:

Kevon Looney (Player Option)
Tony Snell
Serge Ibaka (Player Option)
Nerlens Noel
Gary Trent
Wayne Ellington
Otto Porter
Jarrett Allen (Cavs likely to keep him)
James Johnson
Patty Mills
Will Barton
Javale McGee

Lowry won’t get the max (I don’t think…) but he’s still well out of our range, isn’t he? Only teams I see him taking a genuine discount for are Philly or Miami

[Celtics4ever]

As far as Ainge goes, I doubt you get a bench cleanout.

Semi is paid $1.3M and can start a playoff game at PF.

They seem to like Grant and Kornet, but, they don't play that much anyways.

If Ainge goes with a bench liked we started last year, and it goes belly up again, mark my words,  it will cost him his job and more than likely CBS his as this is not tenable.

[Goldstar88]

As far as Ainge goes, I doubt you get a bench cleanout.

Semi is paid $1.3M and can start a playoff game at PF.

They seem to like Grant and Kornet, but, they don't play that much anyways.

If Ainge goes with a bench liked we started last year, and it goes belly up again, mark my words,  it will cost him his job and more than likely CBS his as this is not tenable.

As it should.

[Moranis]

I'd try to sign Lowry on a reasonable deal. He's 36 now and I doubt anyone would offer him anywhere close to max like Al or Hayward did.

I'd also bring back Baynes who now have an extended shooting range if Raptors decided to part ways with him.

Other players that should be considered:

Kevon Looney (Player Option)
Tony Snell
Serge Ibaka (Player Option)
Nerlens Noel
Gary Trent
Wayne Ellington
Otto Porter
Jarrett Allen (Cavs likely to keep him)
James Johnson
Patty Mills
Will Barton
Javale McGee

Lowry won’t get the max (I don’t think…) but he’s still well out of our range, isn’t he? Only teams I see him taking a genuine discount for are Philly or Miami

I'd think Lowry is worth in the 20 million a year range over 3 years for a contender.  He can still be a very solid 3rd/4th option type player for a contender and that has value.  I do think Philly is a very real possibility as well.  Not sure how they could acquire him, but he makes a lot of sense there with Embiid, Simmons, and Harris.  They need someone like him I think to really feel good about their title chances (of course they could win this year and not feel it is worth the cost it would take to acquire him). 

[Rosco917]

Besides rebuilding the horrible Celtic's bench...capture the basketball DNA of Luka Doncic's brain and inject it into that of Tatum and Brown.

Observe other NBA playoff teams...watch the ball whipping around the perimeter searching-out an open man.

Then watch the Celtic methodically advance the ball looking for an isolation opportunity.

[Goldstar88]

Besides rebuilding the horrible Celtic's bench...capture the basketball DNA of Luka Doncic's brain and inject it into that of Tatum and Brown.

Observe other NBA playoff teams...watch the ball whipping around the perimeter searching-out an open man.

Then watch the Celtic methodically advance the ball looking for an isolation opportunity.

So you are saying this team needs an actual point guard that can get teammates involved and run the offense vs starting a 6’ shooting guard and a combo guard in Smart that can pass well when he wants to, but would rather shoot.

[Csfan1984]

I'd like the team to sure up center by trading Kemba to Pelicans for Bledsoe, Adams along with swapping 1st this year (10 for 16). Kemba would be better next to Ball instead of Smart or Fournier. Pelicans could use his scoring burst and still have Ball and Zion for playmaking. Adams helps deal with the whole TL injuries that keep popping up and he is more dependable than TT.

Pelicans starting five,
Kemba, Ball, Ingram, Zion, Jax

I'd also want to do a second rounder, Grant and Langford for late 1st. C's need to just take the loss and get something back. Also combine three for one.

End up with 10 and 25ish for picks in the two deals.

I'd give Fournier a decent offer he looks like he does fit with the Jays but don't over pay because team is probably two years away from the Jays' prime.

So
Smart/Bledsoe/Yam
Fournier/Pritchard/Edwards
Brown/Nesmith/Draft pick
Tatum/Parker/Draft pick
Adams/TL/TT


Bledsoe does a good job when he isn't asked to be a starter. I like what TL, Pritchard, Nesmith and Parker have shown in spurts. A off season and camp should make them a legit bench. If at 10 you take Kispert or Mitchell those guys are NBA bench caliber guys already. So you could become 11 deep pretty fast.

[Walker Wiggle]

We just don't have the horses / the trade assets to do anything bigger right now and that is not surprising. We lost 3 major stars via free agency in Kyrie, Hayward and Horford. That was a huge loss to our trade coffers. There just isn't much of value left there. No high end value assets. Some good midlevel value assets. But no high end trade assets (outside of Jaylen & Tatum).

I disagree with this sentiment. The Nets got Harden, possibly the greatest scorer since Jordan and a perennial MVP candidate, mostly with future draft picks. The Celtics have all of their future draft capital intact, plus a young center that has all-star potential if healthy. If there's a player out there who asks out of his current team and is open to the Celtics, we will be in the mix just like Brooklyn was in the case of Harden.

[Goldstar88]

We just don't have the horses / the trade assets to do anything bigger right now and that is not surprising. We lost 3 major stars via free agency in Kyrie, Hayward and Horford. That was a huge loss to our trade coffers. There just isn't much of value left there. No high end value assets. Some good midlevel value assets. But no high end trade assets (outside of Jaylen & Tatum).

I disagree with this sentiment. The Nets got Harden, possibly the greatest scorer since Jordan and a perennial MVP candidate, mostly with future draft picks. The Celtics have all of their future draft capital intact, plus a young center that has all-star potential if healthy. If there's a player out there who asks out of his current team and is open to the Celtics, we will be in the mix just like Brooklyn was in the case of Harden.

This. Players run the league, just have to wait for the next guy to ask out and hope they want play with Tatum and Brown.

[jambr380]

Besides rebuilding the horrible Celtic's bench...capture the basketball DNA of Luka Doncic's brain and inject it into that of Tatum and Brown.

Observe other NBA playoff teams...watch the ball whipping around the perimeter searching-out an open man.

Then watch the Celtic methodically advance the ball looking for an isolation opportunity.

So you are saying this team needs an actual point guard that can get teammates involved and run the offense vs starting a 6’ shooting guard and a combo guard in Smart that can pass well when he wants to, but would rather shoot.

That doesn't sound at all like what he is saying. Compared to other players on the team, Kemba actually does make quick decisions. Tatum is a superb talent, but he is in iso-city most of the time - often in a slow controlled manner. It sounds like he wants the Cs to play more like the Jazz.