More Youthful Backcourt: Move Kemba/Smart for Ball/Alexander-Walker

[GreenlyGreeny]

To NYK: 2021 BOS 1st, Kemba Walker
To NOP: 2021 NYK 1st, 2021 BOS 2nd, Marcus Smart
To BOS: Lonzo Ball (RFA S&T), Nickeil Alexander-Walker

https://tradenba.com/trades/ZGjgcWPMh

We could possibly re-sign Fournier and still be just below the luxury line this year (until we have to re-sign Timelord next off-season).

Ball/Pritchard/Madar/Edwards
Fournier/Alexander-Walker/Langford
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Parker/G. Williams
Timelord/TT

[wdleehi]

Giving up way to much for a team that isn't as talented.

[PhoSita]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

[jambr380]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

To be fair, the OP did desire to stay under the tax with this deal (after signing Fournier).

In response to the actual trade, I feel like we are just giving up too much. No reason for the Knicks to get a 1st from us if they want Kemba. I really see no reason to 'dump' him.

[PhoSita]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

To be fair, the OP did desire to stay under the tax with this deal (after signing Fournier).

In response to the actual trade, I feel like we are just giving up too much. No reason for the Knicks to get a 1st from us if they want Kemba. I really see no reason to 'dump' him.

I don't see any plausible way the Celts are going to stay under the luxury and re-sign Fournier.

[ozgod]

Maybe in NBA2k this would work. If you use the "Approve all trades" option 

[Moranis]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

To be fair, the OP did desire to stay under the tax with this deal (after signing Fournier).

In response to the actual trade, I feel like we are just giving up too much. No reason for the Knicks to get a 1st from us if they want Kemba. I really see no reason to 'dump' him.

I don't see any plausible way the Celts are going to stay under the luxury and re-sign Fournier.

well dropping 50 million in salary in Walker and Smart certainly makes that more likely.

[PhoSita]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

To be fair, the OP did desire to stay under the tax with this deal (after signing Fournier).

In response to the actual trade, I feel like we are just giving up too much. No reason for the Knicks to get a 1st from us if they want Kemba. I really see no reason to 'dump' him.

I don't see any plausible way the Celts are going to stay under the luxury and re-sign Fournier.

well dropping 50 million in salary in Walker and Smart certainly makes that more likely.

I'm going to go ahead and call it right now that the Celts aren't going to trade both Smart and Kemba without taking back any salary.

[Celtics2021]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

To be fair, the OP did desire to stay under the tax with this deal (after signing Fournier).

In response to the actual trade, I feel like we are just giving up too much. No reason for the Knicks to get a 1st from us if they want Kemba. I really see no reason to 'dump' him.

I don't see any plausible way the Celts are going to stay under the luxury and re-sign Fournier.

well dropping 50 million in salary in Walker and Smart certainly makes that more likely.

I'm going to go ahead and call it right now that the Celts aren't going to trade both Smart and Kemba without taking back any salary.

I think you could comfortably trade Smart into many teams’ cap space/TPE without having to take anything back if you didn’t want.  I think doing so would be silly, but it’s for certain doable. That’s less clear about Kemba.

[PhoSita]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

To be fair, the OP did desire to stay under the tax with this deal (after signing Fournier).

In response to the actual trade, I feel like we are just giving up too much. No reason for the Knicks to get a 1st from us if they want Kemba. I really see no reason to 'dump' him.

I don't see any plausible way the Celts are going to stay under the luxury and re-sign Fournier.

well dropping 50 million in salary in Walker and Smart certainly makes that more likely.

I'm going to go ahead and call it right now that the Celts aren't going to trade both Smart and Kemba without taking back any salary.

I think you could comfortably trade Smart into many teams’ cap space/TPE without having to take anything back if you didn’t want.  I think doing so would be silly, but it’s for certain doable. That’s less clear about Kemba.

That's my point, there's no way they're going to dump Smart for nothing, yet I don't think that many teams are going to offer significant draft assets for Smart.  So the only way to get back something like fair trade value for Smart is to take back salary.

Same difference for Kemba.  Although you could maybe make a case for simply trading Kemba into another team's cap space as a benefit to the team from a roster construction / cap management standpoint, I very much doubt we would see Ainge do that, even if it's an option.

[GreenlyGreeny]

I think we're going to be repeating this a lot over the course of this summer:

Due to cap / CBA reasons, a S&T is incredibly unlikely to happen.  Pretty much impossible.

If Lonzo signed an $80 million deal at $20 million/year, how is below not doable when we would be shedding $26.5 million:

https://tradenba.com/trades/ZGjgcWPMh

Is it we would then not be able to re-sign Fournier because of some oddity this offseason?

[gouki88]

So we're giving up the better players AND a first round pick?

[Ogaju]

lol I knew it was greeny

[GreenlyGreeny]

Giving up way to much for a team that isn't as talented.

I think CBS meeting Lonzo would be a match made in heaven, particularly defensively. I also think CBS can squeeze a lot out of Alexander-Walker, too, maybe get him almost on par with his cousin.

Heck of a lot more exciting than bringing back Kemba and Marcus…

[GreenlyGreeny]

So we're giving up the better players AND a first round pick?

Kemba is such a defensive liability and Marcus such an offensive liability, we’re getting the better players for our system. And they’re MUCH younger/fresher legs to play out Harden/Irving

Anybody watching right now who thinks Jaylen coming back is gonna make everything alright next season is just kidding themselves. We bring back Kemba and Marcus, we’re on the treadmill like Atlanta six years ago.