Boston Celtics at Brooklyn Nets Round 1 Game 1 5/22/21

[ozgod]

Brad gets a shout-out for playing Parker over Grant or Semi.

I suspect the reason for that is that after shipping Jarrett Allen out the Nets don’t really have a defensive post presence. Griffin is too slow these days and Claxtom and green are too small. Deandre must be really past it these days if he never got on the court despite being Kyrie and KD’d bestie

[tenn_smoothie]

Put down the crack pipe ?? A little personal and over the top, don't you think ?

The guy made an observation that wasn't entirely wrong and Smart regularly hurts us with his shooting - as many have stated on this board repeatedly.

I mean, it's a common and obvious over the top statement, so in what way is it "personal" - unless he/she's really into that stuff, at which point my advice to put it down is actually really good advice. 

But, no, it is a really bad take. They're trying to argue that their theory of Smart shooting more than 11 times as a barometer of the team's success is a good argument based on tonight's game - even though the context from tonight's game is exactly the opposite and disproves the argument. Without Smart the team is blown out by 30 tonight, so trying to make this kind of argument without any consideration of the context is absolutely a bad take.

Just thought the guy was getting roasted over some criticism of Smart that is constant on this board. Smart gets lambasted regularly here. Yeah, I know it was about this specific game, but he did shoot badly during the 3d when we lost the lead, Didn't think he deserved such harsh responses.

[radiohead]

I’m excited to see how JT comes out next game. I hope he goes toe to toe with KD and stands up to his bullying. This is the series and match up that could propel JT to another level. He needs to show Kd that he can hang with him.

[hpantazo]

Tristan looked like he regained a few inches on his vertical tonight. I wonder if Lebron sent him some of his postseason vitamins.

[hpantazo]

I’m excited to see how JT comes out next game. I hope he goes toe to toe with KD and stands up to his bullying. This is the series and match up that could propel JT to another level. He needs tomahow Kd that he can hang with him.

This is why playing in these series matters, even if we are due to lose in the end. Younger guys like Tatum have to face these type of challenges and learn how to respond if they are to take it to the next level.

[Kiorrik]

I’m excited to see how JT comes out next game. I hope he goes toe to toe with KD and stands up to his bullying. This is the series and match up that could propel JT to another level. He needs tomahow Kd that he can hang with him.

This is why playing in these series matters, even if we are due to lose in the end. Younger guys like Tatum have to face these type of challenges and learn how to respond if they are to take it to the next level.

100% love this comment.

We need to grow as individuals within a team. You can only do that by playing through adversity.

We need them to get knocked down and say "... and I took that personally."

[Indocelts]

Put down the crack pipe ?? A little personal and over the top, don't you think ?

The guy made an observation that wasn't entirely wrong and Smart regularly hurts us with his shooting - as many have stated on this board repeatedly.

I mean, it's a common and obvious over the top statement, so in what way is it "personal" - unless he/she's really into that stuff, at which point my advice to put it down is actually really good advice. 

But, no, it is a really bad take. They're trying to argue that their theory of Smart shooting more than 11 times as a barometer of the team's success is a good argument based on tonight's game - even though the context from tonight's game is exactly the opposite and disproves the argument. Without Smart the team is blown out by 30 tonight, so trying to make this kind of argument without any consideration of the context is absolutely a bad take.

Just thought the guy was getting roasted over some criticism of Smart that is constant on this board. Smart gets lambasted regularly here. Yeah, I know it was about this specific game, but he did shoot badly during the 3d when we lost the lead, Didn't think he deserved such harsh responses.

I am just so amazed with how people responded on this theory with just emotional outburst.

I made an argument that first 8 minutes of the 3rd quarter is what cost us the game. And Smart took a big part there.

I am actually intrigued by how  strong is the correlation between his shoot attempt and wining/lose. Maybe it is just a correlation, but maybe there is some truth in what Perk said, that Smart action may deflate the morale of  the players during the course of the game.

Well, like it or not, I will keep monitoring this stat. Might as well use it for betting. 😁

[liam]

I’m excited to see how JT comes out next game. I hope he goes toe to toe with KD and stands up to his bullying. This is the series and match up that could propel JT to another level. He needs tomahow Kd that he can hang with him.

This is why playing in these series matters, even if we are due to lose in the end. Younger guys like Tatum have to face these type of challenges and learn how to respond if they are to take it to the next level.

100% love this comment.

We need to grow as individuals within a team. You can only do that by playing through adversity.

We need them to get knocked down and say "... and I took that personally."

TP

[Ogaju]

Put down the crack pipe ?? A little personal and over the top, don't you think ?

The guy made an observation that wasn't entirely wrong and Smart regularly hurts us with his shooting - as many have stated on this board repeatedly.

I mean, it's a common and obvious over the top statement, so in what way is it "personal" - unless he/she's really into that stuff, at which point my advice to put it down is actually really good advice. 

But, no, it is a really bad take. They're trying to argue that their theory of Smart shooting more than 11 times as a barometer of the team's success is a good argument based on tonight's game - even though the context from tonight's game is exactly the opposite and disproves the argument. Without Smart the team is blown out by 30 tonight, so trying to make this kind of argument without any consideration of the context is absolutely a bad take.

Just thought the guy was getting roasted over some criticism of Smart that is constant on this board. Smart gets lambasted regularly here. Yeah, I know it was about this specific game, but he did shoot badly during the 3d when we lost the lead, Didn't think he deserved such harsh responses.

I am just so amazed with how people responded on this theory with just emotional outburst.

I made an argument that first 8 minutes of the 3rd quarter is what cost us the game. And Smart took a big part there.

I am actually intrigued by how  strong is the correlation between his shoot attempt and wining/lose. Maybe it is just a correlation, but maybe there is some truth in what Perk said, that Smart action may deflate the morale of  the players during the course of the game.

Well, like it or not, I will keep monitoring this stat. Might as well use it for betting. 😁

The responses I saw were simply a pushback on your conclusion that Smart did not play well or caused the loss. The posters that responded actually acknowledged your stat. Perhaps there is something to be taken from it other than an indictment of Smart’s performance. It is important to study the stat but more important is to learn the larger lesson from the stat assuming you have enough data.

At this point you have observed that when Smart shoots more than 11 times the Celtics lose. You therefore conclude that when Smart shoots more than 11 times Smart played poorly, but this is faulty reasoning. Your data is incomplete, IF THE Cs lose every time Smart takes more than 11 shots regardless of whether he makes all the shots or misses all the shots, the observation speaks to issues other than Smarts performance. Right? Your reasoning is inductive or could even be abductive (because of the lack of more information), each of which is prone to false conclusions.

[liam]

I put this loss on the fact that in the second half the Nets kept smacking the Celtics around and we didn't smack back. The refs were calling the second half very one-sided after we got a pretty fair shake in the first half but you still have to smack back. good learning series for the Celtics but The Celtics could've won this game. If you're going to lose make it as hard on the Nets as you can.

[Ogaju]

I put this loss on the fact that in the second half the Nets kept smacking the Celtics around and we didn't smack back. The refs were calling the second half very one-sided after we got a pretty fair shake in the first half but you still have to smack back. good learning series for the Celtics but The Celtics could've won this game. If you're going to lose make it as hard on the Nets as you can.

Just amazing how a team can come out of half-time and just tank. Classic, Nets decided to come out and get physical in the second half and Cs did not adjust to their adjustment.

[Kiorrik]

I put this loss on the fact that in the second half the Nets kept smacking the Celtics around and we didn't smack back. The refs were calling the second half very one-sided after we got a pretty fair shake in the first half but you still have to smack back. good learning series for the Celtics but The Celtics could've won this game. If you're going to lose make it as hard on the Nets as you can.

Just amazing how a team can come out of half-time and just tank. Classic, Nets decided to come out and get physical in the second half and Cs did not adjust to their adjustment.

Not quite true. Game was played much the same, just teams started regressing/progressing to the mean. They hit more shots, we hit less.

Didn't see a huge difference in play-styles.

[Ogaju]

I put this loss on the fact that in the second half the Nets kept smacking the Celtics around and we didn't smack back. The refs were calling the second half very one-sided after we got a pretty fair shake in the first half but you still have to smack back. good learning series for the Celtics but The Celtics could've won this game. If you're going to lose make it as hard on the Nets as you can.

Just amazing how a team can come out of half-time and just tank. Classic, Nets decided to come out and get physical in the second half and Cs did not adjust to their adjustment.

Not quite true. Game was played much the same, just teams started regressing/progressing to the mean. They hit more shots, we hit less.

Didn't see a huge difference in play-styles.

You didn’t? Which game did you watch?

[Kiorrik]

I put this loss on the fact that in the second half the Nets kept smacking the Celtics around and we didn't smack back. The refs were calling the second half very one-sided after we got a pretty fair shake in the first half but you still have to smack back. good learning series for the Celtics but The Celtics could've won this game. If you're going to lose make it as hard on the Nets as you can.

Just amazing how a team can come out of half-time and just tank. Classic, Nets decided to come out and get physical in the second half and Cs did not adjust to their adjustment.

Not quite true. Game was played much the same, just teams started regressing/progressing to the mean. They hit more shots, we hit less.

Didn't see a huge difference in play-styles.

You didn’t? Which game did you watch?

Oh dagnabbit I watched the Pacers game from yesterday.

[liam]

I put this loss on the fact that in the second half the Nets kept smacking the Celtics around and we didn't smack back. The refs were calling the second half very one-sided after we got a pretty fair shake in the first half but you still have to smack back. good learning series for the Celtics but The Celtics could've won this game. If you're going to lose make it as hard on the Nets as you can.

Just amazing how a team can come out of half-time and just tank. Classic, Nets decided to come out and get physical in the second half and Cs did not adjust to their adjustment.

The Celtics need to come out and fight like their lives depend on it. The Nets are not a physically imposing team. Just have to smack them back in the mouth. Get physical and get mean. Tatum seemed to be the only one with any real anger all game. Brad needs to get techs when his players are getting smacked around with not calls. What would Pop do? Hell, what would Doc do?