Tommy from above: I love Nesmith!

[RPGenerate]

Nesmith is now the 5th best 3pt shooter on the team.

Pritchard: 41.7%
Brown: 39.7%
Tatum: 39.3%
Fournier: 39.2%
Nesmith: 38.2
Semi: 38.1%


Anyone not on this list shouldn’t be shooting more than one or two 3’s a game. Marcus, cough..Kemba.

I'm gonna trust the 5 years of really good 3pt shooting from Kemba over the small sample size of Semi and Nesmith.

[Goldstar88]

Nesmith is now the 5th best 3pt shooter on the team.

Pritchard: 41.7%
Brown: 39.7%
Tatum: 39.3%
Fournier: 39.2%
Nesmith: 38.2
Semi: 38.1%


Anyone not on this list shouldn’t be shooting more than one or two 3’s a game. Marcus, cough..Kemba.

I'm gonna trust the 5 years of really good 3pt shooting from Kemba over the small sample size of Semi and Nesmith.

Career 35.9% from 3pt and this year he’s shooting 34.8%. He’s an average shooter.

[jambr380]

Nesmith is now the 5th best 3pt shooter on the team.

Pritchard: 41.7%
Brown: 39.7%
Tatum: 39.3%
Fournier: 39.2%
Nesmith: 38.2
Semi: 38.1%


Anyone not on this list shouldn’t be shooting more than one or two 3’s a game. Marcus, cough..Kemba.

I'm gonna trust the 5 years of really good 3pt shooting from Kemba over the small sample size of Semi and Nesmith.

Career 35.9% from 3pt and this year he’s shooting 34.8%. He’s an average shooter.

Percentages hardly tell the whole story. Many of Kemba's 3s are self-created off the dribble with multiple defenders around him, not wide open from the corner. Also - and I know people will discount this - how many end of quarter mid-court heaves has Kemba taken this season? Seems like he has one every game [that he plays].

I'm not going to pretend Nesmith has been a flame-thrower all season, but I love the fast progression - it's super exciting and I can't wait to see more.

[byennie]

Nesmith is now the 5th best 3pt shooter on the team.

Pritchard: 41.7%
Brown: 39.7%
Tatum: 39.3%
Fournier: 39.2%
Nesmith: 38.2
Semi: 38.1%


Anyone not on this list shouldn’t be shooting more than one or two 3’s a game. Marcus, cough..Kemba.

I'm gonna trust the 5 years of really good 3pt shooting from Kemba over the small sample size of Semi and Nesmith.

Career 35.9% from 3pt and this year he’s shooting 34.8%. He’s an average shooter.

That's misleading. He's 38% over the prior 5 years with high volume, and 85% from the line. That's not average. He's not an elite efficiency guy, but he's been measurably above average in terms of both three pointers and overall TS% while carrying a heavy offensive load and creating shots since about 2015.

His first 4 years in the league he was noticeably less efficient, which makes his career marks look worse.

[Roy H.]

The great thing is, we don’t need to choose between Kemba and Nesmith.  We’ve got a lot of really good shooters now.  Kemba, Tatum, Brown, Nesmith, Pritchard, Fournier.

[Goldstar88]

Nesmith is now the 5th best 3pt shooter on the team.

Pritchard: 41.7%
Brown: 39.7%
Tatum: 39.3%
Fournier: 39.2%
Nesmith: 38.2
Semi: 38.1%


Anyone not on this list shouldn’t be shooting more than one or two 3’s a game. Marcus, cough..Kemba.

I'm gonna trust the 5 years of really good 3pt shooting from Kemba over the small sample size of Semi and Nesmith.

Career 35.9% from 3pt and this year he’s shooting 34.8%. He’s an average shooter.

Percentages hardly tell the whole story. Many of Kemba's 3s are self-created off the dribble with multiple defenders around him, not wide open from the corner. Also - and I know people will discount this - how many end of quarter mid-court heaves has Kemba taken this season? Seems like he has one every game [that he plays].

I'm not going to pretend Nesmith has been a flame-thrower all season, but I love the fast progression - it's super exciting and I can't wait to see more.

Yeah, I don’t know what his percentages are off the dribble for making shots vs stand still. Just know that he’s not shooting well this year and his career numbers are average.

[Goldstar88]

Nesmith is now the 5th best 3pt shooter on the team.

Pritchard: 41.7%
Brown: 39.7%
Tatum: 39.3%
Fournier: 39.2%
Nesmith: 38.2
Semi: 38.1%


Anyone not on this list shouldn’t be shooting more than one or two 3’s a game. Marcus, cough..Kemba.

I'm gonna trust the 5 years of really good 3pt shooting from Kemba over the small sample size of Semi and Nesmith.

Career 35.9% from 3pt and this year he’s shooting 34.8%. He’s an average shooter.

That's misleading. He's 38% over the prior 5 years with high volume, and 85% from the line. That's not average. He's not an elite efficiency guy, but he's been measurably above average in terms of both three pointers and overall TS% while carrying a heavy offensive load and creating shots since about 2015.

His first 4 years in the league he was noticeably less efficient, which makes his career marks look worse.

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Well, this year he’s been mediocre and the sample size isn’t small at this point. I don’t have a problem with him shooting, but just not so many from deep. He’s leading the team in 3pt attempts(8.1 per game) and has the 9th highest percentage on the team. That’s a problem.

[nickagneta]

Nesmith is now the 5th best 3pt shooter on the team.

Pritchard: 41.7%
Brown: 39.7%
Tatum: 39.3%
Fournier: 39.2%
Nesmith: 38.2
Semi: 38.1%


Anyone not on this list shouldn’t be shooting more than one or two 3’s a game. Marcus, cough..Kemba.

I'm gonna trust the 5 years of really good 3pt shooting from Kemba over the small sample size of Semi and Nesmith.

Career 35.9% from 3pt and this year he’s shooting 34.8%. He’s an average shooter.

That's misleading. He's 38% over the prior 5 years with high volume, and 85% from the line. That's not average. He's not an elite efficiency guy, but he's been measurably above average in terms of both three pointers and overall TS% while carrying a heavy offensive load and creating shots since about 2015.

His first 4 years in the league he was noticeably less efficient, which makes his career marks look worse.

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Well, this year he’s been mediocre and the sample size isn’t small at this point. I don’t have a problem with him shooting, but just not so many from deep. He’s leading the team in 3pt attempts(8.1 per game) and has the 9th highest percentage on the team. That’s a problem.

Even this year the number is misleading because of Kemba's very slow start coming back from the knee injury with no preseason or practices to get his legs under him before starting to play. His last 29-30 games or so he has been at over 36% and that's with a recent 3 point slump. I have no issue with Kemba taking threes. They are for the most part, very good shots, unlike Smart who has no issue shooting from 5-8 feet beyond the three point line and very early in the clock before even trying to run offense.

[Roy H.]

He’s leading the team in 3pt attempts(8.1 per game) and has the 9th highest percentage on the team. That’s a problem.

You need to be careful with these types of arguments. For instance:

“Tatum leads the team in shot attempts but he’s only our 10th best shooter by eFG%.  12th best, if you count traded players. That’s a problem”.

True statement?

Or...

8th: Semi Ojeleye .534 eFG%
9th: Grant Williams .533 eFG%
10th: Jayson Tatum .531 eFG%
11th: Carsen Edwards .529 eFG%

Does that tell us anything meaningful about who should be shooting more or less?

[Goldstar88]

He’s leading the team in 3pt attempts(8.1 per game) and has the 9th highest percentage on the team. That’s a problem.

You need to be careful with these types of arguments. For instance:

“Tatum leads the team in shot attempts but he’s only our 10th best shooter by eFG%.  12th best, if you count traded players. That’s a problem”.

True statement?

Or...

8th: Semi Ojeleye .534 eFG%
9th: Grant Williams .533 eFG%
10th: Jayson Tatum .531 eFG%
11th: Carsen Edwards .529 eFG%

Does that tell us anything meaningful about who should be shooting more or less?

We are talking about 3pt shooting, though. Not FG%. I would think that it would go without saying that people who watch basketball understand that a player can have a high overall FG% and not be good at shooting. E.g Tacko with his FG:75% who can’t shoot at all.

[Roy H.]

He’s leading the team in 3pt attempts(8.1 per game) and has the 9th highest percentage on the team. That’s a problem.

You need to be careful with these types of arguments. For instance:

“Tatum leads the team in shot attempts but he’s only our 10th best shooter by eFG%.  12th best, if you count traded players. That’s a problem”.

True statement?

Or...

8th: Semi Ojeleye .534 eFG%
9th: Grant Williams .533 eFG%
10th: Jayson Tatum .531 eFG%
11th: Carsen Edwards .529 eFG%

Does that tell us anything meaningful about who should be shooting more or less?

We are talking about 3pt shooting, though. Not FG%. I would think that it would go without saying that people who watch basketball understand that a player can have a high overall FG% and not be good at shooting. E.g Tacko with his FG:75% who can’t shoot at all.

The same goes for 3PT shooting.  Comparing Kemba to guys like Semi is silly, because one player stands in the corner and shoots without anybody within ten feet of him, while the other is one of the focuses of the defense.

And, I think you missed the point of the analogy.  Stats are useless without context.  “Tatum is the 10th most efficient player on the Celtics” is a true statement.  Suggesting that that means that other players should take shots from Tatum is an unfounded extrapolation.

[Goldstar88]

He’s leading the team in 3pt attempts(8.1 per game) and has the 9th highest percentage on the team. That’s a problem.

You need to be careful with these types of arguments. For instance:

“Tatum leads the team in shot attempts but he’s only our 10th best shooter by eFG%.  12th best, if you count traded players. That’s a problem”.

True statement?

Or...

8th: Semi Ojeleye .534 eFG%
9th: Grant Williams .533 eFG%
10th: Jayson Tatum .531 eFG%
11th: Carsen Edwards .529 eFG%

Does that tell us anything meaningful about who should be shooting more or less?

We are talking about 3pt shooting, though. Not FG%. I would think that it would go without saying that people who watch basketball understand that a player can have a high overall FG% and not be good at shooting. E.g Tacko with his FG:75% who can’t shoot at all.

The same goes for 3PT shooting.  Comparing Kemba to guys like Semi is silly, because one player stands in the corner and shoots without anybody within ten feet of him, while the other is one of the focuses of the defense.

And, I think you missed the point of the analogy.  Stats are useless without context.  “Tatum is the 10th most efficient player on the Celtics” is a true statement.  Suggesting that that means that other players should take shots from Tatum is an unfounded extrapolation.

I understand what you are saying and I’m not suggesting that Kemba stop shooting 3’s altogether and have those looks go to a player like Semi or Grant. What I am saying is that a player who shoots below 35% from 3pt should not be leading the team in 3pt attempts. There are better options available.