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Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #405 on: April 16, 2021, 12:53:03 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

Exactly...starters put in the work they deserved the rest. The third stringers embarrassed themselves.

Yeah, but you don't go right to the end of the bench with 9 minutes to go. The bench could've finished this game but Brad went straight to the end of the bench.

But he didn't go to the end of the bench with 9 min to go...Wagner played 5 min, Ojeleye, Nesmith and Tre played 4 min and Carsen played 7. And Ojeleye and Nesmith are hardly end of bench players.

Sometimes you have to place the blame where it is due, and it's on the shoulders of the players who were on the court for the 5 mins that they gave away 20 points. They were given the opportunity to earn more PT and they were unable to do so. Other than Nesmith or Ojeleye I doubt those other guys will be seeing the court anytime in the future since they've shown they can't be trusted with even a 20+ point lead. Plus it's not just Brad, their own teammates will have lost faith in them because they had to come back in to save the day. Better to know that now than during the playoffs. So in that sense there was value in the experience.
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Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #406 on: April 16, 2021, 12:53:18 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

Seriously.  Imagine the howls (and rightfully so) if one of our rotation players got hurt with 5 minutes to go.  That play by the end of the bench was embarrassing on both ends of the court.

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #407 on: April 16, 2021, 12:53:56 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

Exactly...starters put in the work they deserved the rest. The third stringers embarrassed themselves.

Yeah, but you don't go right to the end of the bench with 9 minutes to go. The bench could've finished this game but Brad went straight to the end of the bench.
Not quite. The bench saw playing time. The extended bench just did too, this time 'round.

Versus the Laker's 3rd stringers.

It's not like we were playing 3rd stringers VS LeBron and AD.

I figure this is more of a statement to trader Danny than it is a flaw of Brad's.

Our 3rd string is decidedly mediocre as a unit.

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #408 on: April 16, 2021, 12:54:11 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

Nah, there aint no such thing as "Garbage Time" anymore, not with the 3s these guys can hit nowadays...9 minutes is way too much time to go.
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Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #409 on: April 16, 2021, 12:54:51 AM »

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Kornet looked really good on defense tonight

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #410 on: April 16, 2021, 12:55:16 AM »

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Is Brad drunk?

Why would you play that unit with 6 mins left

This was the same thing that happened vs Raptors

They were up 27 and needed to make about 4 buckets in order for it not to become an issue. They couldn't do that. Not Brad's fault.

I disagree

Brad can never do that again

Maybe with 3 mins left in the game

I agree with this ....the starters worked too hard to put those losers in with 9 minutes to go ...bad on CBS
I don't see the big issue as much.

Whether they play an extra 3 mins or have to play with 3 mins to go - at least with 3 mins to go they've had some nice rest?

The issue is you lose a 27 point lead and the game. If Brad didnt sub in some of the starters. Lakers would have won

Its embarrassing and all the hardwork by Brown and starters/PP goes to waste


Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #411 on: April 16, 2021, 12:56:57 AM »

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Is Brad drunk?

Why would you play that unit with 6 mins left

This was the same thing that happened vs Raptors

They were up 27 and needed to make about 4 buckets in order for it not to become an issue. They couldn't do that. Not Brad's fault.

I disagree

Brad can never do that again

Maybe with 3 mins left in the game

I agree with this ....the starters worked too hard to put those losers in with 9 minutes to go ...bad on CBS
I don't see the big issue as much.

Whether they play an extra 3 mins or have to play with 3 mins to go - at least with 3 mins to go they've had some nice rest?

The issue is you lose a 27 point lead and the game. If Brad didnt sub in some of the starters. Lakers would have won

Its embarrassing and all the hardwork by Brown and starters/PP goes to waste
It embarrasses the 3rd stringers, yes. Good. Make 'm work harder next time they get the opportunity. I dig it.

Anyway, we won in the end. I'm curious what the players say in the postgame.

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #412 on: April 16, 2021, 12:57:36 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

Nah, there aint no such thing as "Garbage Time" anymore, not with the 3s these guys can hit nowadays...9 minutes is way too much time to go.

Yup, and if Brown, or even Payton, tore his ACL because he was in the game up 25 with 6 min to go I'm sure Brad would have been pilloried. The guy can't win. Sometimes the people who should be blamed for nearly giving up a 30 point lead are the obvious ones - the ones who were on the court when it happened.
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Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #413 on: April 16, 2021, 12:58:08 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

Exactly...starters put in the work they deserved the rest. The third stringers embarrassed themselves.

Yeah, but you don't go right to the end of the bench with 9 minutes to go. The bench could've finished this game but Brad went straight to the end of the bench.

But he didn't go to the end of the bench with 9 min to go...Wagner played 5 min, Ojeleye, Nesmith and Tre played 4 min and Carsen played 7. And Ojeleye and Nesmith are hardly end of bench players.

Sometimes you have to place the blame where it is due, and it's on the shoulders of the players who were on the court for the 5 mins that they gave away 20 points.

Right.  Waters subbed in for Pritchard at the 5:30 mark, with the Celtics up 24.  He subbed out (with the rest of the bench) at the 1:50 mark with the Celtics up 7.  It’s not like he was going up against the Lakers starts — it was largely their 3rd stringers too (although the Lakers are down so many players Talen Horton-Tucker stayed in).

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #414 on: April 16, 2021, 12:58:14 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

You pull the starters but not your 2nd stringers with 9 minutes to go. Pulling Pritchard who was clicking was a mistake.
Wrong. You empty the bench. As I said, not one other coach in the league would have done anything differently.

That bench could only score 2 points in 5+ minutes. That's all on those players, not Brad.

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #415 on: April 16, 2021, 12:59:16 AM »

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Brad's mistake.

Our starters outscored their starters. by 51 points. We won by 8.


Congrats to the underappreciated Jaylen Brown.


Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #416 on: April 16, 2021, 12:59:27 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

You pull the starters but not your 2nd stringers with 9 minutes to go. Pulling Pritchard who was clicking was a mistake.
Wrong. You empty the bench. As I said, not one other coach in the league would have done anything differently.

That bench could only score 2 points in 5+ minutes. That's all on those players, not Brad.

Exactly. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #417 on: April 16, 2021, 01:00:31 AM »

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Brad's mistake.

Our starters outscored their starters. by 51 points. We won by 8.


Congrats to the underappreciated Jaylen Brown.
"Mistake".

"Won".

Errr...?

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #418 on: April 16, 2021, 01:02:08 AM »

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JT and JB are in the top 20 in the league in minutes, Kemba has an ongoing knee issue, Smart plays hard minutes, this is Tristan’s 2nd game back from COVID, and we were up 27.

It’s obvious why the starters were taken out early, if there’s an injury at that point the same people would be complaining about keeping the starters in too long.

Losing that lead in that fashion in that short of time span was ridiculous and that group might never see the floor together in a NBA game. I’m sure Brad will keep PP and Kornet on the court next time.

Re: Celtics (29-26) at Lakers (34-21) Game #56 4/15/21
« Reply #419 on: April 16, 2021, 01:02:38 AM »

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Stop apologizing for Stevens....it was a Bonehead move to take out the starters with over 9 freaking minutes to go on the road...gave the Lakers the momentum and confidence...you gotta leave the starters in til around 5-6 minutes...especially since the Refs aint gonna call anything--like the foul they didn't call on the Pritchard 3 pointer attempt.
Nah. This is just your anti-Brad bias coming out. Up 27, you pull those starters. That's the right move and a move every coach in the league would have made.

You pull the starters but not your 2nd stringers with 9 minutes to go. Pulling Pritchard who was clicking was a mistake.
Wrong. You empty the bench. As I said, not one other coach in the league would have done anything differently.

That bench could only score 2 points in 5+ minutes. That's all on those players, not Brad.

With 9 mins left though?

That is plenty of time to erase a 20ish point lead