Agree with Mike Gorman on Timelord and point guard?

[dannyboy35]

 He said he thought he definitely could be a starter on a contending team but wants him as the power 4 beside a shooting center.  He also mentioned we need a point guard who thinks like a point guard.
 Thoughts?
 I honestly never considered Timelord at the 4. Do you guys think he could have the foot speed to do this? I thought it was interesting.
  Thanks!

[Celtics2021]

Robert Williams dropped in the draft in part because his college team played him at the 4. It was not (very) successful against inferior college completion, and would likely be less successful in the pros.

[Ed Monix]

For me Timelords max ceiling is prime Tyson Chandler...so rim protecting, setting picks, finishing misses at the rim and simple offence hook shots in the paint.

Hypothetically he could be a starting ‘forward’ but he would be a defensive centre to counter a floor spreading big e.g Markkanen, Porzingis, Towns ect.

[Atzar]

I don't think R Williams has the lateral quickness to play the 4, and I also think it marginalizes his shotblocking which is his biggest asset as a defender.

I think he's a 5 all the way on both ends of the court.  Yes, Embiid destroyed him.  I want R Williams to keep improving so that he can hold his own in that matchup, not give up and move off of the position entirely. 

[Goldstar88]

For me Timelords max ceiling is prime Tyson Chandler...so rim protecting, setting picks, finishing misses at the rim and simple offence hook shots in the paint.

Timelord has a lot more talent than Chandler ever had. I’m hoping he develops into a Marcus Camby type. Feel like the playing styles are similar.

[KG Living Legend]

He said he thought he definitely could be a starter on a contending team but wants him as the power 4 beside a shooting center.  He also mentioned we need a point guard who thinks like a point guard.
 Thoughts?
 I honestly never considered Timelord at the 4. Do you guys think he could have the foot speed to do this? I thought it was interesting.
  Thanks!

 A point that plays like a point? What a concept ! I've said a million times that is the only quick fix I can see for this team.

. That's why I would have made a move for Haliburton in the draft.  Think Jordan will do us a favor and trade Lamelo to us lol?

.Tatum and Brown just don't elevate guys. They need help from a world class PG.
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[Boss_D]

I Think we already have a shooting center in Luke, and a thinking point guard in PP..

DA better do his best to trade Kemba this off season, and draft Davion Mitchell.

As per B/R Scouting Report on Davion Mitchell

Scoring: B+

Suddenly a lottery prospect, Davion Mitchell improved his draft stock without scoring more than 16 points during Baylor's six-game March Madness stretch. Scoring isn't his biggest selling point. But he did help his cause with scouts, delivering flashes of explosiveness attacking the basket and nifty step-back moves into dribble jumpers.

For the year, Mitchell shot 60.5 percent at the rim and 51.3 percent out of isolation. He developed into a three-level threat and sharper shot-creator compared to last season.

Shooting: A

Mitchell made a huge jump as a shooter, connecting on 44.7 percent of his threes and 43.6 percent on his pull-ups. He shot 43.5 percent off the catch while playing with another ball-handler in Jared Butler, a promising sign for his potential to work from either backcourt position at the next level.

But he only shot 65.2 percent on free throws, which raises some red flags about the legitimacy of his out-of-nowhere three-point improvement.

Playmaking: A-

Mitchell was turnover-prone and occasionally forced the issue as a passer. But he also looked more like a true playmaker this year, finishing with 5.5 assists per game. Viewed more as a combo last year, Mitchell now has NBA scouts picturing a point guard.

Defense: A+

Scouts thought Mitchell was the nation's best perimeter defender. Opponents turned the ball over a whopping 29.6 percent of the time when he was guarding them man-to-man. His strength, quickness and snapping hands led to a 3.3 steal percentage and caused problems for opposing ball-handlers all season.

Impact: A

Butler was Baylor's best overall player, but Mitchell was clearly a driving force behind the national championship run. Aside from his production and defense, his energy and intensity seemed to elevate the team.

[Who]

Rob Williams at PF = Nope!

His best defensive quality is his shot-blocking. You want him around the basket defensively as much as possible. Not out at the three point line defending combo forwards. It limits his best defensive qualities while asking him to do more of his worst defensive qualities (perimeter quickness).

Rob Williams would have been a PF in the mold of Taj Gibson / Serge Ibaka 10+ years ago but he is not one in today's game.

To play Rob Williams as a PF in today's game, he would need to be unable to defend the C at an adequate level and forced to play PF in order to take advantage of his offensive gifts -- not applicable.

His best position is at center.

[liam]

TIMELORD would be a PF in any other era but I still think he can play PF in certain match ups. I think he should've been at PF against the Sixers.

[LilRip]

I don’t like the idea. TL is a 5. He’s just got bad matchups against teams with skilled and/or physically imposing centers. Sixers have 2 of them in Dwight and Embiid.

We definitely need a PG though. PP is a good shooter, but he doesn’t really see plays ahead or settles the team down. Actually, a few times a game, you’ll notice PP try to initiate offense, fail, and then kick it to Tatum with 10 secs left on the shot clock. It’s very Teague-like, tbh.

Smart is our best playmaking PG right now but he has unreliable play lines and can still shoot you out of games, especially if something didn’t go his way earlier in the game.

[Yuckabuck33]

Where did Mike Gorman say this? Do you have a link? I have a hard time believing that he would criticize Brad and Kemba publicly like that. Got some sauce?

[Celtics4ever]

Rob Williams at PF = Nope!

His best defensive quality is his shot-blocking. You want him around the basket defensively as much as possible. Not out at the three point line defending combo forwards. It limits his best defensive qualities while asking him to do more of his worst defensive qualities (perimeter quickness).

Rob Williams would have been a PF in the mold of Taj Gibson / Serge Ibaka 10+ years ago but he is not one in today's game.

To play Rob Williams as a PF in today's game, he would need to be unable to defend the C at an adequate level and forced to play PF in order to take advantage of his offensive gifts -- not applicable.

His best position is at center.

You could play 4 on offense and 5 on defense.   

TIMELORD would be a PF in any other era but I still think he can play PF in certain match ups. I think he should've been at PF against the Sixers.

Who were you going to have play C,   Thompson was out.   Kornet, thanks for the laugh,  Mo, nope,   Tacko just does not have the stamina.

Rob needs to play more with his feet and less of the pushing and hand checking.

Davion Mitchell

I like Mitchell.   But you're going to break all the Pritchard fans hearts if you do this JK

I don't think R Williams has the lateral quickness to play the 4, and I also think it marginalizes his shotblocking which is his biggest asset as a defender.

I actually think he could, because he has a lot of fast twitch fibers.   Look at how high he jumps and how quick he jumps.   He could do it but just have never done so because he could coast on his sheer athletic ability and would have to learn techniques and better foot work.

Robert Williams has all the physical attributes to eventually become a big time NBA center, defensive anchor and rim protector. Although he stands only 6'9", he has an impressive frame, huge hands, and a reported 7'5½" wingspan. He is very fluid, mobile and quick. He's an effortless leaper with tremendous verticality off either one foot or two. That freakish wingspan, along with an awesome 40-inch vertical, allows him to play much, much larger than his 6'9" listed height. His length and vertical jump are ridiculously impressive, even by NBA standards. He is mostly known for his explosive, monster finishes in college.

Williams will close out on shooters (and block or bother perimeter shots). Sometimes he is not disciplined on defense, and can get blown by on the perimeter chasing a block. Too many times I saw him get beat and go for the recovery block. As I said, he needs to learn some fundamentals. He plays too upright and can get pushed around in the post. By playing in a proper stance, he could hold his ground better. Also he tends to reach rather than play positional defense. His awareness could stand some improvement as he stands and watches the ball too often. These are all things that can improve with good coaching and with more experience.

Williams also has all the tools to be a good defender, he has good enough lateral quickness to cover the wing and good size/length to protect the paint.

Strengths

    Elite athlete, plays above the rim
    Quick feet and quick second jump
    Very good lateral quickness
    Transition - Runs the floor like a guard
    Uses huge 7'5½" wingspan to alter shots
    Big, soft hands. Big frame.
    Defensive upside - potential defensive anchor
    Very good rebounder - Averaged 12.9 rebs per 36 minutes
    Motor/ Energy / Passion

Weaknesses

    Raw offensively
    Right hand dominant
    Must improve court awareness and feel for the game
    Needs more consistency on his jump shot
    Must refine his post game
    Turnover prone

That was a 2018 scouting report.   It is not like he does not have the ability to stay in front of guys the athletic talent base is there.  I think a lot of it is learning how to do it.   We seen a lot of Growth in Robert over his tenure.   He still has a ton of growth ahead of him.

I do think adding a PF or shooting Center would help us and a pass first PG.   

What peeps are forgetting is it may take that pick to move Kemba so bye bye , Davion Mitchell and he is shooting up draft boards so he might not be there if we keep the pick.

[PAOBoston]

As per usual, Mike Gorman is wrong with his hot takes lol. Williams can’t play the 4 defensively. To further complicate things, Cs don’t have a that could help with spacing so it would clog up everything.

[gouki88]

Alongside someone like KAT, yes. Not alongside anyone on our roster though

[Somebody]

He said he thought he definitely could be a starter on a contending team but wants him as the power 4 beside a shooting center.  He also mentioned we need a point guard who thinks like a point guard.
 Thoughts?
 I honestly never considered Timelord at the 4. Do you guys think he could have the foot speed to do this? I thought it was interesting.
  Thanks!

Sounds like advice straight from the Jurassic era of basketball .

Robert is excellent as a centre in most matchups, you play your power big in TT when you're up against the leviathans of the league and let Robert loose against everyone else (and it wasn't like Robert got mauled by Embiid a few days ago, he's playable against even the strongest centres in the league). And we don't need anyone thinking that they have to distribute or pass so they can rack up Rondo assists, we need PGs who can balance scoring and playmaking by reading and reacting to opposing defences, which Kemba and Smart do pretty well.