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Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2021, 03:56:22 PM »

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Can someone explain to me why we didn’t know how to beat a simple zone vs Miami? There’s way better hoop minds on here than me but last year is haunting me. Why did we not move vs the zone? Was it players refusing or not listening  to go to the foul line to receive a pass or was it Brad did t want that? It has to be one or the other, right?
Thanks!

Funny you ask because during the ncaa you see teams employing that simple move to beat the zone, not only that, the announcers offered the zone busting remedy but alas Brad didn’t get it.

  We did this in cyo ball growing up as kids. Just can't be true. Ugggggh

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2021, 04:04:22 PM »

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You kinda have to have decent backups for this plan to work.
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Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2021, 04:05:44 PM »

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Brad is not an NBA coach.

So what's he been doing the last 8 years then?

A. OJT

B. Trying to turn the Cs into a college team.

C. Coaching scared of his own players.

D. Getting paid.

E. Banking timeouts for retirement.

F. All the above.


LOL

All those playoffs games the Celts won over the last half decade were just dumb luck I guess.
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Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2021, 04:23:05 PM »

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Brad is not an NBA coach.

So what's he been doing the last 8 years then?

A. OJT

B. Trying to turn the Cs into a college team.

C. Coaching scared of his own players.

D. Getting paid.

E. Banking timeouts for retirement.

F. All the above.


LOL

All those playoffs games the Celts won over the last half decade were just dumb luck I guess.

well, explain this season, please.

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2021, 04:44:30 PM »

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Last night was the night for this. Why Smart came in and played all of over time I have no idea.

I’m sorry, but putting In our G-league unit of Grant Williams, Green, Edwards, Waters, and Tacko was not going to help matters. They certainly were not going to save the day.

Why not? And if not, who is to blame?

Ainge, obviously.

Yeah if the coach cannot develop the players Ainge should either fire the coach or get him better players.
I'm pretty fed up with Brad.

But a criticism of him not developing players is not based on any realistic idea at all
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SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2021, 04:53:26 PM »

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You kinda have to have decent backups for this plan to work.

The plan is more about living a fire under the starters asses than even getting a win. If the starters aren't going to play hard for 48 minutes play the guys who will. We are losing these games anyway might as well try something different.

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2021, 05:50:06 PM »

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You kinda have to have decent backups for this plan to work.

The plan is more about living a fire under the starters asses than even getting a win. If the starters aren't going to play hard for 48 minutes play the guys who will. We are losing these games anyway might as well try something different.


Yeah I can imagine how enlivening it would be to throw the third stringers to the wolves and have the team lose by 40.
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2021, 05:51:33 PM »

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Brad is not an NBA coach.

So what's he been doing the last 8 years then?

A. OJT

B. Trying to turn the Cs into a college team.

C. Coaching scared of his own players.

D. Getting paid.

E. Banking timeouts for retirement.

F. All the above.


LOL

All those playoffs games the Celts won over the last half decade were just dumb luck I guess.

well, explain this season, please.


COVID, injuries, new additions not working out in terms of production or chemistry, half the roster is made up of young guys ....

Brad is also not having a great season.

But to go from "Brad is not doing a great job in an otherwise tough year with a very flawed roster" to "This is what Brad has been doing the last 8 years" is simply nonsense.
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Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2021, 05:57:30 PM »

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You kinda have to have decent backups for this plan to work.

The plan is more about living a fire under the starters asses than even getting a win. If the starters aren't going to play hard for 48 minutes play the guys who will. We are losing these games anyway might as well try something different.


Yeah I can imagine how enlivening it would be to throw the third stringers to the wolves and have the team lose by 40.
Gotta pump up Tacko's trade value
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SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2021, 08:43:12 PM »

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Like I said before, Where is the Ownership when you need it?
Oh thats right I forgot, Wyc tucks Danny and Brad in at night

How you pink hats like the ride now?

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2021, 09:25:19 PM »

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Brad is not an NBA coach.

So what's he been doing the last 8 years then?

A. OJT

B. Trying to turn the Cs into a college team.

C. Coaching scared of his own players.

D. Getting paid.

E. Banking timeouts for retirement.

F. All the above.


LOL

All those playoffs games the Celts won over the last half decade were just dumb luck I guess.

well, explain this season, please.


COVID, injuries, new additions not working out in terms of production or chemistry, half the roster is made up of young guys ....

Brad is also not having a great season.

But to go from "Brad is not doing a great job in an otherwise tough year with a very flawed roster" to "This is what Brad has been doing the last 8 years" is simply nonsense.

nonsense is a supposed NBA coach that can’t solve zone defense.

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2021, 09:47:41 PM »

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Brad is not an NBA coach.

So what's he been doing the last 8 years then?

A. OJT

B. Trying to turn the Cs into a college team.

C. Coaching scared of his own players.

D. Getting paid.

E. Banking timeouts for retirement.

F. All the above.


LOL

All those playoffs games the Celts won over the last half decade were just dumb luck I guess.

well, explain this season, please.


COVID, injuries, new additions not working out in terms of production or chemistry, half the roster is made up of young guys ....

Brad is also not having a great season.

But to go from "Brad is not doing a great job in an otherwise tough year with a very flawed roster" to "This is what Brad has been doing the last 8 years" is simply nonsense.

I feel blaming the season on those things is a bit of a cop out.  Yes, the roster has issues.  Yes, some guys have missed time.  But those aren't the things that really concern me about this team. 

What concerns me is that I don't think I've ever seen a time (in the past 10 years) where a Celtics team has shown such a lack of heart, passion and desire to win.  These guys look disinterested, careless, lazy. There is no fire.

If this team had a mismatched roster with half the guys missing I would be totally ok with that if every time the the team got on the they played hard and played smart.  If they were beating bad teams that they should be beating, but were being edged out by better / more talented teams I'd be totally fine with that as long as I can see they are giving it everything they have. 

In reality this team is consistently getting blown out by bottom of the barrel lottery teams, and if anything they are MORE competitive against good teams.  This tells me their biggest issue is not injuries, or roster construction - because they are clearly capable of competing (even against good teams) when they can be bothered. 

The biggest issue is that they play the game the wrong way (too much ISO, bad shot selection, no ball movement, inconsistent defensive effort) and seem to have zero motivation or desire.  And who's job is it to keep the team motivated and tell them how to play?  The coach. 

So I struggle to see how anybody can be more to blame right now then Brad Stevens.  Brad is a very nice, polite, laid back guy.  He's clearly not the disciplinary type.  I think that's why he's so good at developing young talent, because he's patient with them and helps give them confidence.  But on the other side of things I think it's also why he seems to struggle with guys who have big egos - they just walk all over him.

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2021, 09:48:08 PM »

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Brad is not an NBA coach.

So what's he been doing the last 8 years then?

A. OJT

B. Trying to turn the Cs into a college team.

C. Coaching scared of his own players.

D. Getting paid.

E. Banking timeouts for retirement.

F. All the above.


LOL

All those playoffs games the Celts won over the last half decade were just dumb luck I guess.

well, explain this season, please.


COVID, injuries, new additions not working out in terms of production or chemistry, half the roster is made up of young guys ....

Brad is also not having a great season.

But to go from "Brad is not doing a great job in an otherwise tough year with a very flawed roster" to "This is what Brad has been doing the last 8 years" is simply nonsense.

nonsense is a supposed NBA coach that can’t solve zone defense.
This is an incredibly weak retort, given all the accusations you were happily wielding before you got responded to.

Brad has his weaknesses, but Danny hasn’t helped him much. We’ve continually lost more talent than we’ve gained in the off-season
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2021, 10:42:49 PM »

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You kinda have to have decent backups for this plan to work.

The plan is more about living a fire under the starters asses than even getting a win. If the starters aren't going to play hard for 48 minutes play the guys who will. We are losing these games anyway might as well try something different.


Yeah I can imagine how enlivening it would be to throw the third stringers to the wolves and have the team lose by 40.

It doesn't really matter how many points you lose by. I believe Pop was scheduling losses by resting players a few years back. It kept the stars rested and gave the younger end of bench guys a chance to play.

Re: Take note Brad!!!!
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2021, 10:44:38 PM »

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Our bench can’t even beat the other team’s scrubs.

Our bench might be doing decent in the NCAA tournament right now.

Although I am not sure I am even confident in that.