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Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« on: March 21, 2021, 04:51:30 PM »

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Let’s hear them, alongside your recommendation.

Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2021, 04:56:08 PM »

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I reckon he should come off the bench in an ideal world. I'd start PP over him to set the tempo and more reliably hit open shots.

If we could get someone like Harrison Barnes or similar I'd even bench Smart too for certain match-ups
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Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2021, 05:20:08 PM »

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pros:  our team is better

Cons:  Kemba loses his smile
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Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
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There is no reason for Kemba to come off the bench. If he is so bad he needs to be benched, he needs to be moved immediately.

But he is playing good ball, his numbers the last 16 games or so are 19.5/4.5/3.5. He's good for getting at least 1 stock a game an one charged drawn every two or so games.

This team needs to be healthy. Then they have to get the guys into the roles they will be playing in. Then the success will come.

Sitting Kemba solves no issues whatsoever. It probably causes locker room problems.

Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2021, 06:55:03 PM »

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I'm not sure we can trade Kemba without packaging someone else valuable like Pritchard or Timelord and perhaps a pick.

His contract is enormous for a guy who's not a top 15 point guard in the league...

I mean... He may not even be the best pg on the Celtics...

It's sort of similar to the Hayward situation where we paid a guy above market value and then he was unable to separate himself from other players at his position on our team.

Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2021, 07:37:39 PM »

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I'm not sure we can trade Kemba without packaging someone else valuable like Pritchard or Timelord and perhaps a pick.

His contract is enormous for a guy who's not a top 15 point guard in the league...

I mean... He may not even be the best pg on the Celtics...

It's sort of similar to the Hayward situation where we paid a guy above market value and then he was unable to separate himself from other players at his position on our team.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2021, 08:14:59 PM »

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There are no pros for bringing Kemba off the bench. If we are looking to win, we need the best version of Kemba, as he needs to be at least our 3rd best player. If we are looking to trade him, he needs to be showcased as much as possible.

People have this Lou Williams/Jordan Clarkson idea in mind with Kemba, but that is just not reasonable given our lack of depth. We aren't going to start a rookie PG in Pritchard. He is decent, but it's not like he has separated himself. And Smart is good, but more of a combo guard and we don't have nearly enough playmaking/shot creation left in our starting line-up if he is your PG. I'm all set with double bigs or Semi to start. I won't even get into the chemistry issues this would likely cause.

Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
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Anyone who thinks PP should start know nothing about basketball. Kemba is getting stronger and leading more with each game. PP is great kid but he is not starting this year. If Jaylen Brown would stop playing hero ball and pass we could have a team. Great he hit 10 3's. I will take 10 assists. It is time Kemba gets mad and tells the J's what have you won? I am tired of the hate on Kemba, He is a winner an will show it this year in the playoffs if the J's quit playing hero ball.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2021, 04:38:30 PM »

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Let’s hear them, alongside your recommendation.
Anyone who thinks PP should start know nothing about basketball. Kemba is getting stronger and leading more with each game. PP is great kid but he is not starting this year. If Jaylen Brown would stop playing hero ball and pass we could have a team. Great he hit 10 3's. I will take 10 assists. It is time Kemba gets mad and tells the J's what have you won? I am tired of the hate on Kemba, He is a winner an will show it this year in the playoffs if the J's quit playing hero ball.
The Jays know more about winning in the NBA than Kemba. Bringing up his college winning has nothing to do with him now
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2021, 05:36:09 PM »

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I think from a player management perspective it's more likely that they would go the post-knee-KG route and just play Kemba for limited stretches until the fourth quarter, so that he ends up totaling 24-28 minutes per game on a typical night.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2021, 05:39:19 PM »

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There is no reason for Kemba to come off the bench. If he is so bad he needs to be benched, he needs to be moved immediately.

But he is playing good ball, his numbers the last 16 games or so are 19.5/4.5/3.5. He's good for getting at least 1 stock a game an one charged drawn every two or so games.

This team needs to be healthy. Then they have to get the guys into the roles they will be playing in. Then the success will come.

Sitting Kemba solves no issues whatsoever. It probably causes locker room problems.


7 games in March

.398 / .352 / .941

112 ORTG / 121 DRTG

32.8 mpg

16.1 pts
3.4 reb
5.0 ast

2.43 FTA per game
7.7 3PA per game
55% of field goal attempts are threes


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Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2021, 06:09:38 PM »

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There is no reason for Kemba to come off the bench. If he is so bad he needs to be benched, he needs to be moved immediately.

But he is playing good ball, his numbers the last 16 games or so are 19.5/4.5/3.5. He's good for getting at least 1 stock a game an one charged drawn every two or so games.

This team needs to be healthy. Then they have to get the guys into the roles they will be playing in. Then the success will come.

Sitting Kemba solves no issues whatsoever. It probably causes locker room problems.


7 games in March

.398 / .352 / .941

112 ORTG / 121 DRTG

32.8 mpg

16.1 pts
3.4 reb
5.0 ast

2.43 FTA per game
7.7 3PA per game
55% of field goal attempts are threes


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Yeah, he had been trending upward but he's declined again recently. I like the idea of Kemba in that Lou Williams bench role. Get about 28-30MPG and a green light
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Pros and Cons of Kemba Coming Off the Bench
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2021, 06:20:08 PM »

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Don't see any Pros. You can reduce his minutes but he is the best PG option.