NFL 2021 Season

[nickagneta]

This loss is on the Pats coaching staff. Horrible game plan going into it. Colts said they were going to stuff the line and force Mac to throw. So what do the Pats do? Throw 10 times in the first half and put up zero  :-[points going into halftime. Mac wasn’t involved in the offense for a game and a half and was rusty. Shocking. Pats played slow for most of the 4th and kicked that FG instead of going for a TD. More conservative play. Good luck beating good teams playing like that.

I agree

Meh. Total team collapse.

I'm not going to absolve the atrocious play of the defensive line for a half, the offensive line for 3 quarters, all those guys taking terrible penalties, Jones for two bad INTs that cost the Pats points and the players that couldn't stop Taylor on tht TD run late in the fourth. That was all on them.

Terrible game plan to start the game, not having the team ready to perform to start the game and taking to long to adjust, well, that's on the coaches.

But let's not pretend that the players didn't suck for a major portion of this game. Because they did.

Those two Int’s were in the first half, where Mac was clearly rusty since he had barely thrown the ball in a game and a half. In the second half, where Pats were now down 17-0 and forced to throw, he was much better. 2TD’s, no INT’s. Mac finished the game with 299 yards passing and 74.2 rating. Not terrible considering he was only allowed to throw the ball 10 times in the first half. Wentz finished the game with 57 yards passing, 1TD, 1INT and a passer rating of 49.7. Bills ran the ball right down the Pats throat and had. Ore running yards than NE did vs the Bills last game.

The coaching staff sticking to their guns and using the same game plan in a Dome  that they did vs the Bills which was outdoors in terrible conditions is just arrogant. It didn’t work in the first or second quarter and they don’t switch gears until down 3 scorers. That isn’t going to cut it if the Pats do indeed make it to the playoffs.

Stop with the rustiness talk. That's an excuse. Have you ever played football or watched a practice. QBs get tons of throws in every week, a lot against their real time defenses. This far into the season there is no such thing as rustiness, the idea is absurd in football.

Are you really comparing throwing the ball in practice vs a live game, where the opposition is trying to take you out?

I may not have played football in college, but I did play other sports and Insinuating that you don’t lose your edge when your not able to play against a real opponent is just untrue.

Though QBs have a red shirt on in practice, they play against their own defense, who knows their plays, in game speed conditions 3 times a week. It is absolutely as close to game conditions as you can get.

Basketball and hockey practice where 1st team/lines scrimmage against 2nd teams/lines are completely different than football where first team offense scrimmages against first team defense.

1st string QBs don't get rusty. Trust me on that. They get too many reps in every week for weeks to get rusty simply because they didn't throw a lot for a game.

I mean, look at all the QBs that go out with injury for a week or three and come back and are great. It happens all the time. Why did they not get rusty.

I'm telling you Goldstar, this is an unreal serious reach to blame the coaches. Rustiness doesn't happen to QBs playing every week this far into a season.

Agree to disagree, I suppose. I don’t believe that it was a coincidence that Mac played much better and was in rhythm during the second half once the coaches were forced to let him throw.

Then how do you explain the plethora of proof against your claim from QBs getting injured, coming back in season and playing great from the first snap? There are decades of examples of this. But somehow, this time it's different?

Stick to your opinion all you want because you want to blame coaching, but you're massively off base here.

Gotta disagree here. Look no further than Dak Prescott and Aaron Rodgers. Both missed a week and came back rusty as hell. And these are top tier qb's too. Not agreeing that mac was rusty or not I guess that's not for me to judge. But to say qb's come back and are bever rusty is just completely false they most certainly do come back little rusty. Game speed is way faster than the most aggressive practices. Sorry but that's just how it is

Dak had a bad game Rodgers, come on now, he proves my point. Came back after two different one week out injuries and was great.

Also, what about all those QBs that come back after bye weeks and are amazing.

Sorry, rust after one game missed is ridiculous.

Dak was atrocious against the broncos when he 1st came back. And Rodgers although they got the win was pretty pedestrian the whole game vs the Seahawks when he made his return. Watched the game with a packers fan buddy of mine and he was not happy watching Rodgers just a little off all game. Point being I guess I agree with both points of view. Yes qb's throw it enough during the week and pregame to not have a rusty arm but mentally and having quick decisions I think is more so the part that is effected after a long layoff. Again remember how terrible Rodgers looked week 1 after he sat the whole preseason. He looked like a backup lol

Nick doesn’t believe that athletes can become rusty after not playing for a period of time, so it’s not worth arguing.

Is it OK so say that some players have struggled after not playing at full game speed and some haven't?  Either way it's not something to draw any firm conclusions about.  A lackluster return could have to do with factors other than "rust".  Every player underperforms from time to time.  The good ones turn it around quickly.

You mean a factor like the offensive line acting like a turnstile at a subway station for the better part of 3 quarters. Because THAT was the limiting factor in the passing game, not rust. Jones completed 7 of his first 10 passes in the 1st half. Almost all very short outlets due to lack of time in the pocket. How is that rust?

[Roy H.]

Brady got shut out.  I didn’t see that one coming.

[Moranis]

Brady got shut out.  I didn’t see that one coming.

The Saints have had his number in Tampa, but yeah a shutout is definitely unexpected.  I mean in general you don't expect a team to get shutout, but certainly not a team with the goat who is also the favorite for MVP (or at least was the favorite).

[nickagneta]

Brady got shut out.  I didn’t see that one coming.

I was working, so missed the game, but was shocked to see the score. Then I just read on ESPN that all of Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Leonard Fournette were injured and left during the game. The score now makes a lot more sense.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Brady got shut out.  I didn’t see that one coming.

I was working, so missed the game, but was shocked to see the score. Then I just read on ESPN that all of Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Leonard Fournette were injured and left during the game. The score now makes a lot more sense.

Once those guys were out, Brady must've been having PTSD flashbacks to his last couple of years in New England.

[Redz]

Brady got shut out.  I didn’t see that one coming.

I was working, so missed the game, but was shocked to see the score. Then I just read on ESPN that all of Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Leonard Fournette were injured and left during the game. The score now makes a lot more sense.

Once those guys were out, Brady must've been having PTSD flashbacks to his last couple of years in New England.

I love Brady as much as any Pats fan, but he's such a puss when he things are going kerfluey.

[moiso]

Brady is the latest person to suffer from the SI jinx.  It all made sense when I got my issue in the mail today.

[SparzWizard]

Chris Godwin done for the remainder of season with a torn ACL. Tough blow for the Bucs, but they'll get Antonio Brown back.

Saints resurrecting that Bountygate program I see, going for low dives leg-hunting and headhunting and all.

[Neurotic Guy]

Pats-Bills.  Bills are raring to go to get revenge today. Hope Pats are ready.  Stevenson out but Harris is back - hope his hamstring hold up.
Aguilar out. Big game from Nkeal Harry today.

[Roy H.]

I don’t understand that.  Three straight passes from inside the room?

You’ve got Josh Allen.  Run three straight sneaks, and the guy could pick up a half yard.

[Goldstar88]

So far this Pats/Bills game has the feel of the Indy game last week. Not good.

[Phantom255x]

These refs are GARBAGE what the hell was that!?? Easily cost NE a FG with that.

[Billz401]

The screw job is in!! Blatant simulated snap on 4th and 7 and they called offsides, blatant late hit out of bounds and they pick up the flag.. make it make sense

[Billz401]

And then the throw a 15 yard penalty for talking to the defense. You know the crap these guys do on every play

[Billz401]

Has this defense been on vacation the past 3 weeks? They just look completely unprepared. Guys are wide open by 10 yards every time, they can't tackle. Looking like the jaguars out here