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Re: One forgotten point on the TPE
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2021, 03:08:30 PM »

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I believe the Celtics might be able to grab a first rounder from the Warriors by taking on Kelly Oubre this year to reduce their luxury tax bill by $68 million. Oubre is an expiring that you most likely don't bring back, but he might also be exactly what Romeo might turn into and so maybe, and that's a gigantic maybe, you do re-sign him and move Romeo for something better.

The Warriors can only trade their own '22 first rounder currently, besides the '21 Wolves pick (which I doubt to be available  ;D).

I'm not sure I'd want to trade half of the TPE for Oubre + '22 first round pick. But an interesting idea.
That pick needs to have minimal protections though.

With a TPE left of 14.125M you could still go after Wood, Nance Jr, Anderson, Poeltl or Boucher.

I bet Orlando is aching for a trade to get below the tax. They should absolutely trade either Gordon, Fournier or Ross.
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Re: One forgotten point on the TPE
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2021, 03:17:55 PM »

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I believe the Celtics might be able to grab a first rounder from the Warriors by taking on Kelly Oubre this year to reduce their luxury tax bill by $68 million. Oubre is an expiring that you most likely don't bring back, but he might also be exactly what Romeo might turn into and so maybe, and that's a gigantic maybe, you do re-sign him and move Romeo for something better.
I cant see GSW giving up a future 1st rd pick (since they can't trade their 2021 FRP) that easy... but something like this may work for all involved:

Celtics in:
Oubre + Chriss (dead salary) + GSW 2022 FRP unprotected

GSW in:
Semi + BOS 2021 FRP top 10 protected ...

I think doing this Danny will have 5 FRPs (or 6 FRPs if he manages to trade Theis for a later year pick for some team on the verge of contending ) next year to trade for a disgruntled star ...  why not both J. Grant and Vucevic  ;)

Why would we do that? It’s likely that we end up giving the best pick in the deal and using a bulk of our TPE to take on a guy we don’t want.
I don't get it either. Oubre is most likely a rental. The Celtics are doing the Warriors a major favor by taking on Oubre's contract and saving themselves $68 million. The trade could be as simple as Oubre and a GSW first(year doesn't matter) for a top 55 protected 2nd round pick. There is simply no reason to make the trade any different than that.
2022 is the only available to be traded and that is given we send them an unprotected pick .. because they will not have guaranteed FRP in 2021 and 2022 - two consecutive years.
They also owe a FRP to Memphis starting in 2024.

Unless they unprotect their 2021 pick to OKC and send us the Minnesota second rounder in 2021 (#31)... so it’s not as easy as just getting a FRP from warriors.

Also by now I think most of us agree that we don’t need more rookies coming in next year.

That '21 Minnesota pick will convey in either 2021 (top 3 protected) or in 2022 (unprotected). So there's no issue there I think.

They have already traded their '24 first rounder going on with protections until 2026, so that makes their '23 first uneligible for trade. As you said their '21 first is going to OKC (or kept, based on 1-20 protection => second rounder).

So Golden State can only trade their '22 first round pick (or the '21 Wolves pick, which I doubt they'd be willing to give up ).

Re: One forgotten point on the TPE
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2021, 05:08:39 PM »

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Can the Warriors trade the 2021 MIN 2nd that goes to OKC if the Warriors’ 2021 1st round pick is not 20-30? Basically, they trade it and Oubre to us and if the Warriors’ 1st round pick is not 20-30, we get it and OKC gets the 2021 MIN 2nd?

In any case, why would the Kings not trade Barnes for Oubre and filler? There are probably many teams that would take on Oubre in exchange for something of value, so I’m not sure why the Warriors would feel compelled to send Oubre and a pick to us?

If the Warriors’ were not interested in Barnes and want pure luxury tax savings, this could be an interesting opportunity:

https://tradenba.com/trades/oG6Bdj_7r

Follow that up with a big trade for Collins and we may have enough to compete for the title this year, particularly if LeBron or AD (or Mitchell or Gobert) are injured in the finals:

https://tradenba.com/trades/55Hazeylq

Walker/Teague/Pritchard
Brown/Smart/Langford
Tatum/Barnes/Nesmith
Collins/Theis/Ojeyele
TT/Whiteside

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