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NBA Rumors: Boston Celtics Could Land John Collins
« on: March 01, 2021, 01:30:42 PM »

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Take this rumor with a grain of salt

But also it is not unrealistic.  A bit of an overpay if you ask me..

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Boston Celtics Receive: John Collins

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Payton Pritchard, Carsen Edwards, 2021 first-round pick, 2023 first-round pick, 2025 first-round pick (top-25 protected)

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Jay King: Danny Ainge has made it clear what he wants to find at the trade deadline: A shooter with size. Because the Celtics are building around Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, the ideal scenario would be to find pieces who can help immediately but also grow alongside those two guys. Collins would be an interesting target because of his youth, production and versatility. He has proven himself as a roll man. He has proven he can succeed on the perimeter. He’s still not the world’s greatest defender, but adding a 6-foot-9, athletic power forward could give Boston more options on that side of the court.

Kirschner: So to write it out clearly, it would be Prichard, Edwards, two firsts and a second.

… If this is the best deal Schlenk thinks he can get, and he knows he isn’t going to match a $100-plus million offer sheet, then it makes sense. I, personally, wouldn’t feel great about it, but these are the tough decisions general managers have to make when it comes to team building.

Weiss: OK, let’s see if we can push this over the finish line then. How would Schlenk feel turning that second into a vanishing first, giving it a top-25 protection that then converts into a pair of seconds if it doesn’t convey? So that would be Pritchard, Edwards, firsts in ’21 and ’23 and a vanishing first in ’25.

Kirschner: I think that’s enough draft capital to get a deal done with Boston. Definitely would see if any team wanted to include a better young player in the deal before making this one, but with the possibility of three firsts, let’s make a deal.

https://fadeawayworld.net/2021/02/27/nba-rumors-boston-celtics-could-land-john-collins/

Lineup post trade could look like

Theis
Collins
Tatum
Brown
Walker

TL/TT
Semi/Grant
Langford/Nesmith
Smart/Waters

Could this lineup beat the Heat and or 76ers out of the east.  And make the finals?

Re: NBA Rumors: Boston Celtics Could Land John Collins
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2021, 01:30:50 PM »

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Re: NBA Rumors: Boston Celtics Could Land John Collins
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2021, 01:35:11 PM »

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How reliable is Fadeawayworld.net? Massive overpay. Collins is basically Daniel Theis +. Pass...
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2021, 01:38:25 PM »

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Could this lineup beat the Heat and or 76ers out of the east.  And make the finals?

The Heat or 76ers? Did you forget somebody?

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2021, 01:38:39 PM »

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How reliable is Fadeawayworld.net? Massive overpay. Collins is basically Daniel Theis +. Pass...

Thought the same thing, so I ... wait for it!!! .... clicked on the link.

References a piece in the Athletic, but sounds like it’s basically Jay King spitballing on some offers.

Collins is better than Theis + better upside.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2021, 01:39:07 PM »

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How reliable is Fadeawayworld.net? Massive overpay. Collins is basically Daniel Theis +. Pass...

Theis right now is a little bit better on the D end. But offensively, there is no comparison. Collins runs laps around Theis

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2021, 01:40:18 PM »

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I was higher on Collins his rookie year than now. I’d focus on different bigs even if we have to pay more. We need the right big, not just any.

We should be patient this year. There aren’t any trades we can make to beat the Nets or 76ers. Best to give lots of minutes to Nesmith, Pritchard, and Romeo and figure out what the offense should look like when running it through the Jays

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2021, 01:40:32 PM »

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Could this lineup beat the Heat and or 76ers out of the east.  And make the finals?

The Heat or 76ers? Did you forget somebody?

Bucks have no chance to beat the 76ers or Heat imo

They look even worst than last season group

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2021, 01:42:33 PM »

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How reliable is Fadeawayworld.net? Massive overpay. Collins is basically Daniel Theis +. Pass...

Daniel Theis if he was a 20 / 10 guy who hit 40% of his threes.


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Could this lineup beat the Heat and or 76ers out of the east.  And make the finals?

The Heat or 76ers? Did you forget somebody?

Bucks have no chance to beat the 76ers or Heat imo

They look even worst than last season group

I think he’s referring to the Nets.

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2021, 01:45:27 PM »

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Could this lineup beat the Heat and or 76ers out of the east.  And make the finals?

The Heat or 76ers? Did you forget somebody?

Bucks have no chance to beat the 76ers or Heat imo

They look even worst than last season group

I think he’s referring to the Nets.

For the Nets a lot depends on Durant health.  If he is not healthy, they wont be able to beat 76ers or Heat

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I think the Heat could beat the package if they added Tyler Herro.

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2021, 02:03:44 PM »

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I think the Heat could beat the package if they added Tyler Herro.

Why would the Heat want to do that?


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I think the Heat could beat the package if they added Tyler Herro.

Why would the Heat want to do that?

To screw the Celtics.

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2021, 02:10:56 PM »

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I think the Heat could beat the package if they added Tyler Herro.

Why would the Heat want to do that?

They need more talent to compete with the upper echelon of contenders. Collins seems to be a good fit with Butler and Bam.