Was extending Hayward’s opt out deadline a mistake?

[Roy H.]

I think the mistake was not trading him for McDermott and Turner

We could have done both.  Keep the 30th pick, trade Kanter to Portland, and S&T Hayward to Indy for Turner / McDermott / #1.

[PhoSita]

I think the mistake was not trading him for McDermott and Turner

We could have done both.  Keep the 30th pick, trade Kanter to Portland, and S&T Hayward to Indy for Turner / McDermott / #1.

Do McDermott and Turner really fix any major issues for this team?

You're adding a couple of non-passing guys who don't really create shots for themselves or others.

I guess they're proven NBA level players and this team needs those, except not at the 5, where even without Tristan Thompson the Celts already have two centers that need time.

Suppose if they had traded for Turner they could have traded Theis.


I'll always be skeptical that the Indiana trade was ever a genuine option so long as Charlotte was there ready to pay Gordo an enormous annual sum.

[Roy H.]

I think the mistake was not trading him for McDermott and Turner

We could have done both.  Keep the 30th pick, trade Kanter to Portland, and S&T Hayward to Indy for Turner / McDermott / #1.

Do McDermott and Turner really fix any major issues for this team?

You're adding a couple of non-passing guys who don't really create shots for themselves or others.

I guess they're proven NBA level players and this team needs those, except not at the 5, where even without Tristan Thompson the Celts already have two centers that need time.

Suppose if they had traded for Turner they could have traded Theis.


I'll always be skeptical that the Indiana trade was ever a genuine option so long as Charlotte was there ready to pay Gordo an enormous annual sum.

This team has lots of issues:

* Lack of depth
* Lack of shooting
* Lack of defensive playmakers
* Lack of floor stretching from our bigs

That trade would have solved all of this issues.  While our ball movement might leave something to be desired, I think it's easier for our stars to move the ball if they know that there's a legitimate NBA player on the receiving end of their passes.

And, Danny talked today about "missed opportunities" in the off-season.  Indy's GM has basically confirmed that Hayward was ready to sign there.  And, it's not like Charlotte's money was that much more than Indy's; Zach Lowe has heard they were offering as much as $112 million, and that's clearly where his family wanted to be.

[PhoSita]

Myles Turner hits 32% of his threes.  Not sure he's helping to stretch the floor.

I'm also a bit skeptical of how much of a genuine defensive impact he makes with his blocks considering the Pacers are a middle of the road defensive team.


I do agree that the Celts are desperate for NBA bodies right now.  Just having Doug McDermott would probably solve some problems.  Turner might look better playing next to Tatum and Brown as the lone big on the floor instead of playing off Sabonis in a less spaced offense.


In theory having the TPE seems better because you can maybe use it to find one or two players that fit your roster better.

The problem with that gamble that has become painfully apparent is that the Celts have such a thin roster now that they can't afford to wait for the right deal to materialize.  They needed help before the season started.