High risk, high reward trade options for Celtics

[Smartacus]

I think that Josh Jackson would be something of a high risk high reward swing. Jackson spurned DA in the draft process but has been an afterthought since entering the league until finally gaining some traction this year with the Pistons. If DA provides Jackson a real opportunity to become a legitimate player I could see Jackson solidifying the wing rotation as the first off the bench/spot starter.

At worst Jackson is a distressed asset that would be easy to cut if he doesn't work out. At best if he buys in and actually composes himself well, there's no reason to say he couldn't eventually start next to Tatum and Brown. 4 years ago he was being considered in the same breath as Tatum during the pre draft process.

[todd_days_41]

Mo Bamba, Zach Collins, Justice Winslow.

Pass. Pass. And Pass.

None of these guys add to this team -- they're deck chair shuffling, if not downgrades.

[todd_days_41]

Here's a high risk / reward shot:

Trade a 1st round pick for Tim Hardaway Jr. I think he'd be a nice fit as a quick release chucker in our currently muddy offense. He's been on-and-off the Mavs bench despite good shooting. Mavs are going nowhere and he's a FA this summer.

Trade for him, then resign him.

[gouki88]

Here's a high risk / reward shot:

Trade a 1st round pick for Tim Hardaway Jr. I think he'd be a nice fit as a quick release chucker in our currently muddy offense. He's been on-and-off the Mavs bench despite good shooting. Mavs are going nowhere and he's a FA this summer.

Trade for him, then resign him.

Would be a sad outcome if he's all we can get with our TPE, given he's a one-way player. But he's a one-way player that I like.

[Jvalin]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

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You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

[Vermont Green]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

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You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

"Filler"?  Hmmm

OK, how about with Detroit for Jerami Grant and their Pick (assuming it is positioned to get who you want) for Brown and our pick.  We get our PF, they get star.  We get lottery pick.

This feels fair in value, maybe, but I am not sure Detroit does it.

[gouki88]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

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You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

As you should be - it's bad asset management. You'd trade an All-Star on a sub-max contract for a prospect who might one day be an All-Star, but might also be nothing? Oh, and filler! By the time Cunningham is in his mid-20s Tatum will be onto his next contract, or potentially have left given we set back the clock a few years. The majority of the outcomes of this deal are losses for us.

Every year minus the Kyrie-disaster year Brown has made serious jumps in his offensive game. No reason to give up on that when he's locked up for so long.

[NKY fan]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

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You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

detroit counters this proposal with:
Griffin + D. Wright + Plumlee
for
Kemba + Grant  + Timelord

I take this deal right now if available.

[gouki88]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

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You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

detroit counters this proposal with:
Griffin + D. Wright + Plumlee
for
Kemba + Grant  + Timelord

I take this deal right now if available.

Why would Detroit want that deal? They just parted ways with their veteran PG

[NKY fan]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

----------------------

You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

detroit counters this proposal with:
Griffin + D. Wright + Plumlee
for
Kemba + Grant  + Timelord

I take this deal right now if available.

Why would Detroit want that deal? They just parted ways with their veteran PG

To get rid of Griffin / save some dollars this and next season and to get TL

[gouki88]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

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You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

detroit counters this proposal with:
Griffin + D. Wright + Plumlee
for
Kemba + Grant  + Timelord

I take this deal right now if available.

Why would Detroit want that deal? They just parted ways with their veteran PG

To get rid of Griffin / save some dollars this and next season and to get TL

So you acknowledge that we're giving up the best player and the best prospect then...

We do this deal why? We lose on all sides except contract length, I guess.

[NKY fan]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

----------------------

You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

detroit counters this proposal with:
Griffin + D. Wright + Plumlee
for
Kemba + Grant  + Timelord

I take this deal right now if available.

Why would Detroit want that deal? They just parted ways with their veteran PG

To get rid of Griffin / save some dollars this and next season and to get TL

So you acknowledge that we're giving up the best player and the best prospect then...

We do this deal why? We lose on all sides except contract length, I guess.

We need a change without compromise the future .

[gouki88]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

----------------------

You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

detroit counters this proposal with:
Griffin + D. Wright + Plumlee
for
Kemba + Grant  + Timelord

I take this deal right now if available.

Why would Detroit want that deal? They just parted ways with their veteran PG

To get rid of Griffin / save some dollars this and next season and to get TL

So you acknowledge that we're giving up the best player and the best prospect then...

We do this deal why? We lose on all sides except contract length, I guess.

We need a change without compromise the future .

Losing our best prospect is compromising the future. Over his last 5 Williams is averaging 8.2PPG, 6.6RPG, 2.2BPG, 1.6SPG and 1.4APG on 73% from the field in 17.4MPG. That's insane production. Per-36 that's a split of 17-14-4.5-3.3-2.9. He's just now rounding into the monster thought he could be, and you want to dump him for nothing? I think that is by all definitions compromising the future

[NKY fan]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

----------------------

You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

detroit counters this proposal with:
Griffin + D. Wright + Plumlee
for
Kemba + Grant  + Timelord

I take this deal right now if available.

Why would Detroit want that deal? They just parted ways with their veteran PG

To get rid of Griffin / save some dollars this and next season and to get TL

So you acknowledge that we're giving up the best player and the best prospect then...

We do this deal why? We lose on all sides except contract length, I guess.

We need a change without compromise the future .

Losing our best prospect is compromising the future. Over his last 5 Williams is averaging 8.2PPG, 6.6RPG, 2.2BPG, 1.6SPG and 1.4APG on 73% from the field in 17.4MPG. That's insane production. Per-36 that's a split of 17-14-4.5-3.3-2.9. He's just now rounding into the monster thought he could be, and you want to dump him for nothing? I think that is by all definitions compromising the future

Timelord is time managed for health reasons. That’s not great. His defense has been ok last couple days.. maybe they are pumping up his value for a trade

[Jvalin]

I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.

Why? Let's face it, we aren't legit contenders this season. Brown and Tatum are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. Now is the time to take risks on promising young players.

----------------------

You want a high risk, high reward target? Trade Brown on draft night for Cade Cunningham + filler(s) or cap relief.

Not sure whether such a deal will be on the table. Obviously, it would be a massive risk on our part. Personally speaking, I'm very high on Cunningham. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. He can create shots for his teammates. He can shoot the 3. He can defend multiple positions. He can play on or off the ball. He can do it all.

I'm ready to face some serious hate for this post. 

"Filler"?  Hmmm

OK, how about with Detroit for Jerami Grant and their Pick (assuming it is positioned to get who you want) for Brown and our pick.  We get our PF, they get star.  We get lottery pick.

This feels fair in value, maybe, but I am not sure Detroit does it.

Cunningham + Jerami Grant for Brown + Celtics 2021 first? I'd do it in a heartbeat! Don't think the Pistons would do it though.

The team I had in mind is the Wizards. They already got 2 win-now stars in Beal and Westbrook. If they strike lucky in the lottery, it's possible they'd be willing to swap their pick for a 3rd win-now star in Brown.

@gouki
I'd trade an all-star on a value contract for a Luka lite/Grant Hill hybrid under team control for 8-9 seasons. As much as I like Brown, imo Cunningham will become a way better player. He's a 6'8", unselfish ball handler who thrives in the half court. Brown has made huge leaps as a half-court player, but he's at his best when playing in the open court. Rule of thumb is that the pace of the game slows down come playoff time. Always gimme an elite half-court talent over an elite open-court talent.