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High risk, high reward trade options for Celtics
« on: February 20, 2021, 07:30:52 PM »

Offline Ed Monix

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Mo Bamba, Zach Collins, Justice Winslow.

Three guys that long term could help the Celtics that have had history of injuries, poor style fits and overall bad luck. I think at least one of these could be gotten with a pick, trade exception and role player trade.

I’m curious if anyone on the forum would be interested in taking a chance on any of these players? Obviously there is a risk and it would be viewed as a long term investment.
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2021, 08:54:16 PM »

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Mo Bamba, Zach Collins, Justice Winslow.

Three guys that long term could help the Celtics that have had history of injuries, poor style fits and overall bad luck. I think at least one of these could be gotten with a pick, trade exception and role player trade.

I’m curious if anyone on the forum would be interested in taking a chance on any of these players? Obviously there is a risk and it would be viewed as a long term investment.

If you could get Winslow back on track without lingering injury problems then that's an interesting project.

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2021, 09:14:17 PM »

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Mo Bamba, Zach Collins, Justice Winslow.

Three guys that long term could help the Celtics that have had history of injuries, poor style fits and overall bad luck. I think at least one of these could be gotten with a pick, trade exception and role player trade.

I’m curious if anyone on the forum would be interested in taking a chance on any of these players? Obviously there is a risk and it would be viewed as a long term investment.

If you could get Winslow back on track without lingering injury problems then that's an interesting project.

Can you imagine Smart and Winslow together defensively, it would be Ainge’s wet dream haha
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2021, 09:19:51 PM »

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Zach Collins and Justise Winslow are both incredibly injury-prone. Collins is also not very good, would prefer to just give Grant minutes. Winslow would be a fun addition to the bench though. Good wing defence and playmaking.

Bamba would be a solid get though. Doesn't get much run in Orlando. If we could turn Langford and Theis/Thompson into Bamba and Winslow I'd be pretty happy.
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I've been leading the Winslow fan club ever since we got the TPE, so I am totally on board. It seems there are some concerns with injuries, but it almost seems like MEM has moved on without him at this point. JJJ is also set to return around the same time as Winslow so rotation minutes will be harder to come by.

With his age, contract (keeps us under the tax this season and team option for 2021-22), position/skills, and still with a bit of potential, I would be happy to acquire Winslow if he came substantially cheaper than some of the other names being discussed. I consider him every bit as valuable as Barnes or Gordon when healthy...but I get the 'when healthy' part of Winslow might be a deal breaker for some.

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 01:54:42 AM »

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I'd love us to go after Bamba! Imo, he has a higher upside than Timelord, plus he'd be a better fit in our system.

Gimme Nassir Little over Winslow. He ain't playing much, but his advanced stats are very impressive. He scores 1.67 PPP as a spot up shooter which ranks in the 99.7th percentile! Fwiw, him and Winslow had similar measurements at the combine. Little is 6'4.5" w/o shoes with a 7'1.25" wingspan! Winslow is also 6'4.5" w/o shoes, but with a 6'10.25" wingspan.

Gimme Mo Wagner over Zack Collins. Again, very impressive advanced stats, albeit in limited minutes. He scores 1.67 PPP as a roll man in the PnR which ranks in the 99th percentile! He also scores 1.72 PPP as a cutter which ranks in the 98.5th percentile! He can shoot the 3. He's a decent passer at the C position. His D leaves a lot to be desired, but it ain't terrible either.

Obviously, all 3 guys are projects. They won't make an immediate difference. That said, I don't think we are legit contenders this season. I mean, we've lost 3 all-star-caliber players in 2 seasons (Kyrie, Horford, Hayward). Imo, we should rebuild the team on the fly around the Jays. If I were Danny, I'd be targeting players who share the same time window with the Jays.
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I'd love us to go after Bamba! Imo, he has a higher upside than Timelord, plus he'd be a better fit in our system.

Gimme Nassir Little over Winslow. He ain't playing much, but his advanced stats are very impressive. He scores 1.67 PPP as a spot up shooter which ranks in the 99.7th percentile! Fwiw, him and Winslow had similar measurements at the combine. Little is 6'4.5" w/o shoes with a 7'1.25" wingspan! Winslow is also 6'4.5" w/o shoes, but with a 6'10.25" wingspan.

Gimme Mo Wagner over Zack Collins. Again, very impressive advanced stats, albeit in limited minutes. He scores 1.67 PPP as a roll man in the PnR which ranks in the 99th percentile! He also scores 1.72 PPP as a cutter which ranks in the 98.5th percentile! He can shoot the 3. He's a decent passer at the C position. His D leaves a lot to be desired, but it ain't terrible either.

Obviously, all 3 guys are projects. They won't make an immediate difference. That said, I don't think we are legit contenders this season. I mean, we've lost 3 all-star-caliber players in 2 seasons (Kyrie, Horford, Hayward). Imo, we should rebuild the team on the fly around the Jays. If I were Danny, I'd be targeting players who share the same time window with the Jays.
I was super high on Nassir Little before Roy Williams botched his freshman year and tanked his draft stock. I reckon he'll be a really solid player one day. Great athlete, good defender, can shoot. He's raw, but he only just turned 21.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2021, 05:52:46 PM »

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Winslow checks off a lot of boxes for the bench but dude is literally eternally injured.

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Didn’t know Winslow was still in the League
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Fwiw, Winslow is finally back playing (just played his first game yesterday), so he is actually now a real player playing NBA minutes, not just a mirage we heard about once upon a time. He was pretty useless/injured last year, but in 18-19 he had averages of: 13ppg, 5.4rpg, 4.3apg and shot 38% from deep. He'd have to be available for really cheap for it to be worth taking him on, but at 24 y/o, he shouldn't be a finished product quite yet.

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2021, 10:51:32 PM »

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Zach Collins and Justise Winslow are both incredibly injury-prone. Collins is also not very good, would prefer to just give Grant minutes. Winslow would be a fun addition to the bench though. Good wing defence and playmaking.

Bamba would be a solid get though. Doesn't get much run in Orlando. If we could turn Langford and Theis/Thompson into Bamba and Winslow I'd be pretty happy.
I actually like Collins better than Winslow and thought he was playing pretty well this year before the surgery. 
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Zach Collins and Justise Winslow are both incredibly injury-prone. Collins is also not very good, would prefer to just give Grant minutes. Winslow would be a fun addition to the bench though. Good wing defence and playmaking.

Bamba would be a solid get though. Doesn't get much run in Orlando. If we could turn Langford and Theis/Thompson into Bamba and Winslow I'd be pretty happy.
I actually like Collins better than Winslow and thought he was playing pretty well this year before the surgery.
Zach Collins hasn't got on the court this year. He played 11 games last year and was looking okay. Improved his shooting and his offensive rebounding. Still inefficient inside the arc for someone his size, and is only an average passer. Below average rebounder and defender. Not sure about him
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2021, 09:22:08 AM »

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I have no interest in Mo Bamba or that Collins right now but I think Winslow is an interesting possibility as well as Jabari Parker in that same category.

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2021, 09:31:48 AM »

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Zach Collins and Justise Winslow are both incredibly injury-prone. Collins is also not very good, would prefer to just give Grant minutes. Winslow would be a fun addition to the bench though. Good wing defence and playmaking.

Bamba would be a solid get though. Doesn't get much run in Orlando. If we could turn Langford and Theis/Thompson into Bamba and Winslow I'd be pretty happy.
I actually like Collins better than Winslow and thought he was playing pretty well this year before the surgery.
Zach Collins hasn't got on the court this year. He played 11 games last year and was looking okay. Improved his shooting and his offensive rebounding. Still inefficient inside the arc for someone his size, and is only an average passer. Below average rebounder and defender. Not sure about him
yeah I meant last year. 
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2021, 09:55:44 AM »

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I think the Celtics need more of a sure thing right now.