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We are closer than we think
« on: February 20, 2021, 01:53:21 PM »

Offline litangel

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I have heard a lot of doom and gloom, and a need for a fairly massive trade to get the Celtics to the finals and a shot at a ring. I see a Celtics team with a lot of wonderful pieces. But some have needed time to recover or acclimate to a new team - Kemba, Tatum (recovering fully after Covid - I think him not feeling fully back even once he has been playing has been undervalued), Thompson. Nesmith took a while to acclimate also. And they have never been able to get into a rhythm as important pieces kept missing time. I think we are a Harrison Barnes and a little consistent health away from going on a hell of a run and making the finals.
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I am not into trading Smart or Kemba, patience grasshopper. Smart is best as a 6th man. Once we can get him back to that role through getting someone like Barnes, he will shine. He is too important for our team chemistry and team defensive focus.

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I have heard a lot of doom and gloom, and a need for a fairly massive trade to get the Celtics to the finals and a shot at a ring. I see a Celtics team with a lot of wonderful pieces. But some have needed time to recover or acclimate to a mew team - Kemba, Tatum (recovering fully after Covid - I think him not feeling fully back even once he has been playing has been undervalued), Thompson. Nesmith took a while to acclimate also. And they have never been able to get into a rhythm as important pieces kept missing time. I think we are a Harrison Barnes and a little consistent health away from going on a hell of a run and making the finals.

I am kind of agree with you, but maybe we are still a little too young. We are closer than we think because we have 80% of a dominant team need. But we are not there yet. And I am afraid of what a quiet big trade will cost.
Say 15% of the way is about the progression of Brown and more of Tatum. Tatum still have to polish his game and to improve as a leader. 5% is about finding a better bench; but we may already have a decent to good future bench with Smart, Rob, Pritchard, Nesmith, Langford. 
The recent decision to give almost all bench playing time to Rob, Pritchard and Nesmith may show that we focus more in progression next years than in winning now.

Whatever I guess we still have a chance to pass in the final as all east teams have inconstancy and mental/cohesion/bench concerns.

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I think that we’re missing a Hayward-sized piece.  A guy who can add 17 ppg while being solid in all areas.


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I think that we’re missing a Hayward-sized piece.  A guy who can add 17 ppg while being solid in all areas.

I agree. 

I do think this team is better than it is currently playing.   I don't see why they can't go back to the conference finals if they can just get healthy and get that team chemistry & flow going again.


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Right on...

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I think that we’re missing a Hayward-sized piece.  A guy who can add 17 ppg while being solid in all areas.
I tend to agree. We don't really need another star, especially if we're keeping Kemba around, but that 15+ reliable scorer who can defend, pass, rebound and shoot. Barnes and Gordon immediately spring to mind. If we want lesser but similar guys Thad Young and Rudy Gay further spring to mind.

Collins is a bit different, given he looks to be headed for that borderline All-Star status. Would still happily have him though.
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I think that we’re missing a Hayward-sized piece.  A guy who can add 17 ppg while being solid in all areas.

Harrison Barnes!
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Agree on Harrison Barnes. The main problem with Hayward while he was here was health. Always injured at the wrong time. I don't think Barnes has had similar injury issues.

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Agree on Harrison Barnes. The main problem with Hayward while he was here was health. Always injured at the wrong time. I don't think Barnes has had similar injury issues.
He's been very durable since leaving GSW. Never played less than 72 games, and that was last season - where he played every available game.
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Agree on Harrison Barnes. The main problem with Hayward while he was here was health. Always injured at the wrong time. I don't think Barnes has had similar injury issues.

That's because he's never been a C.  The team seems to be a little snake bitten with injuries.

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Agree on Harrison Barnes. The main problem with Hayward while he was here was health. Always injured at the wrong time. I don't think Barnes has had similar injury issues.

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Did Boston magically grow a top 5 player or even a top 10 one?
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Did Boston magically grow a top 5 player or even a top 10 one?

Mr Moranis let me introduce you to Mr Tatum...

Tatum was Just outside the top10 players in most preseason rankings. Is it completely unimaginable that by seasons end he could climb a few spots and be in the top10?

You yourself in the "guaging Tatum value" thread only picked 4 sure fire swaps u would do and 5 u would need to think about...that Math tells me u rank him as at worst 10th best.

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Did Boston magically grow a top 5 player or even a top 10 one?
Tatum is a top 10 player, Brown is arguably top 15.

I only have LeBron, Doncic, Curry, Jokic, Embiid, Lillard and Harden ahead of Tatum. AD is probably there too if he's healthy.
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