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Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2021, 11:42:54 AM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

When was the last time Danny spent a lottery pick on a tough player? They (Danny and Brad) want soft players.

Pritchard is as hard as a rusty nail but we had three picks in a great draft for role players and only came out with one player.

PMP was pure luck, and he was not a lottery pick.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2021, 11:50:17 AM »

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Celtics under Brad have been drafting a certain type of player. Clean cut types like Brown Tatum Grant Waters Edwards Langford and now Nesmith ...I frequently hear them referred to as smart, and then they give a history of their academics and how they turned down the IVys we are even told how Tacko has an engineering degree. Well, all that is well and good if you are building a team to contest in the academical games, but this is NBA basketball. Time to get some players that can actually play tough rugged basketball.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2021, 11:53:51 AM »

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Maybe the cells are getting  ready for a trade and show casing other players.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2021, 12:40:16 PM »

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DA and BS have both said the teams identity needs to be rooted in defense. Nesmith's elite skill is shooting. He has struggled with the defensive rotations whem he's played. That's why he's not seeing the floor right now.  They don't have a lot of practice time due to COVID and the a how the the schedule has been affected by the game being rescheduled. You only learn so much from film. He needs court time in practice to learn the defense or time in the g league.

That said the short minutes that I've seen him play on offense have been good. He seems totake the right shots, makes the right passes and he's a better rebounder than I expected.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2021, 01:01:50 PM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

When was the last time Danny spent a lottery pick on a tough player? They (Danny and Brad) want soft players.

Pritchard is as hard as a rusty nail but we had three picks in a great draft for role players and only came out with one player.

PMP was pure luck, and he was not a lottery pick.
I don’t see how the Pritchard pick can be considered “pure luck”.
 Danny knew exactly who  Prichard was, and didn’t heasitate to pick him at 26. This blog lost its [dang]ed mind, “why didn’t he wait till the second round”? the instapundits panned the pick, but Danny knew. Now the pick was just luck?

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2021, 01:16:33 PM »

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Celtics under Brad have been drafting a certain type of player. Clean cut types like Brown Tatum Grant Waters Edwards Langford and now Nesmith ...I frequently hear them referred to as smart, and then they give a history of their academics and how they turned down the IVys we are even told how Tacko has an engineering degree. Well, all that is well and good if you are building a team to contest in the academical games, but this is NBA basketball. Time to get some players that can actually play tough rugged basketball.
Toughness isn’t the issue with the guys you listed. Every team in the league would want Brown or Tatum. Waters, Edwards, Tacko, and Williams along with most of the bench are guys who just are not good. Heyward would improve the bench greatly and he is like Tatum and Brown. Heyward is an NBA player while these other guys listed are mediocre at best.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2021, 01:33:20 PM »

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I'd like to believe they are hiding him on the bench so no teams ask for him in deals....  ::)

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2021, 01:44:28 PM »

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To answer the OP's question...

He sucks.

If one is prone to thinking that Brad Stevens is a bad coach and poor judge of talent then I suppose that the OP question is legit. I tend to think that I not only know far less than CBS, but that I witness players in practice sessions -- well, never -- and he sees then playing daily and on film.   So, I think Nesmith rides the bench because CBS thinks he's not ready and that there are better players to insert.  Stevens' goal should primarily be to win games. 

That said, Nesmith could show something at some point that leads CBS to insert him, give him more opportunity, and depending on his response, play him more.  I trust Stevens more than I trust myself on situations like this.  No question there are those on the blog who trust their own judgment more than Stevens'.

They've had little to no practice time this year and no camp and 3 preseason games. What's Brad making the judgement that he shouldn't play on?

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2021, 02:13:08 PM »

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Of course Brad knows much his players far better than the finest posters here (guys like Gouki who rarely contest his decisions). But the problem is that Nesmith played a little when the team played quiet well early seasons. We saw big limitations (he also didn't play since almost one year), but we also saw some potential skills (still raw but there) even in his defense.
Now our team really played poorly bad collectiv and/or defensive games (Pistons, Knicks, Suns ...) for many reasons. Brad had to rebuild his rotations; using Gleaguers level players with no future in the league ala Green, Teague or Edwards, titularising limited guys like Pritchard or Ojeleye. And there just a little garbage time for Nesmith. I really don't get it.

Nesmith was drafted quiet high and may be our last lottery pick before a while. Even for 10 minutes a match, even if he isn't good, even he is fouled out regulary, we need to give him time. We don't look to compete for the max of winnings or I don't see it. What interest do we have to give again and again chances to players who almost always disapoint, like Teague and Green, and not going after a guy for who we invested for our future ? It's a big and long question ...

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2021, 02:14:40 PM »

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Because he can’t defend a chair without fouling it.

This is not complicated.

Then why is Grant Williams playing lol
There is no one else to play the 4 unless they want to go the 2 big lineup which doesn't work. Brad's forced to play whatever warm body he has and with 1 point and 4 rebounds in 24 minutes that was a warm body performance last night.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2021, 02:17:04 PM »

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He’s a very raw player. His only true skill is shooting but can’t really do anything else at an nba level. He’s played like 9 college games, got hurt, had no summer league, no preseason, no training camp, and very limited practice time so far this season.

All players don’t come into the nba ready and not all rookies have the same situations with playing time. I’d assume if Nesmith was on Detroit or some other team that is a bottom feeder, he’d be getting more time on the court and to play through his mistakes and growing pains. The reality is there are more dependable players at his position currently above him on the depth chart.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2021, 03:26:10 PM »

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Because he can’t defend a chair without fouling it.

This is not complicated.

Then give him his 6 fouls...it really isn’t that complicated.

You should go into coaching!

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2021, 03:31:01 PM »

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Because he can’t defend a chair without fouling it.

This is not complicated.

Then give him his 6 fouls...it really isn’t that complicated.

You should go into coaching!
BTW Todd you get a Tommy Point for your name. I was in the building that night that Day got 41 and he may be my most disliked Celtic of all time.  That was an awful team and Day was an awful player lol.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2021, 03:48:41 PM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

When was the last time Danny spent a lottery pick on a tough player? They (Danny and Brad) want soft players.
Smart?
Brown?

Really, this is a absurd post.
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Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2021, 04:03:55 PM »

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This thread will probably go the way of all the “Why aren’t they playing Tua !?!” threads in Miami last fall.

Step-1) We have a high pick, don’t waste it!
Step-2) Why did we draft this guy, and not that guy?
Step-3) Why isn’t our high draft pick playing? We need to see what he has!
Step-4) This guy is terrible! We’re trying to win games, play the other guy more!
Step-5) Why didn’t we draft that other guy when we had the chance, he’s so much better than this guy!?!
Step-6) Our guy is coming off an injury and didn’t get any training camp, give him a chance!
Step-7) Who can we get for this guy? He’s never going to amount to anything!

If I am reading the room correctly, we are currently between Steps 6 and 7 regarding Nesmith.